# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1041 "2025-12-27T23:28:51Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Regarding Grenell seeking damages, I wonder if Redd could claim his arrangement was with the “John F Kennedy” Center, not the “Donald J Trump and John F Kennedy” Center. As @Johnny_L.A indicated, that’s a fair first thought. A good second thought, on the topic of “damages” suffered by the Center from the cancellation, is that the concert was FREE: [https://www.kennedy-center.org/whats-on/millennium-stage/2025/december/christmas-eve-jazz-jam/](https://www.kennedy-center.org/whats-on/millennium-stage/2025/december/christmas-eve-jazz-jam/) ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1042 "2025-12-27T23:45:07Z")
Oh but the reputational damage! The defamation! trump is suing the BBC for several billions for something like that I understand, so Chuck Redd is in trouble. But as he has got nothing to lose I hope he pushes back hard and kicks them hard in the balls. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1043 "2025-12-28T00:03:27Z")
> [@](#): > > In the letter, Grenell said he would seek $1 million in damages “for this political stunt.” We can sue for political stunts? Okay, great! I hereby sue Trump for his most recent thousand political stunts. Times one million…hmm… I believe I’m owed ONE BILLION DOLLARS! Yay! ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1044 "2025-12-28T00:54:33Z")
To DJT: Have your last fucking Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1045 "2025-12-28T01:59:21Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > A good second thought, on the topic of “damages” suffered by the Center from the cancellation, is that the concert was FREE: But… but… but… What about the huge financial loss from the concession stands? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1046 "2025-12-28T03:47:33Z")
And merch! Og only knows how many “ **DONALD J TRUMP** and john f kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing Arts Jazz Concert” t-shirts they’d already made up. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1047 "2025-12-28T04:39:37Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > To DJT: Have your last fucking Christmas. I’ve said it before, and I’m sure I’m going to say it again. The felon colors himself the way he does because he thinks the Sun is that color and he believes everything revolves around him. Also, he adores dictators, the birthday for one actually called [Day of the Sun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Sun). Since that particular dictator is also the [eternal president](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_leaders_of_North_Korea#%22Eternal_President%22), of course the felon is going to love that date. Too bad for the felon it’s in April. Personally, I think [this](https://www.aol.com/news/congress-looks-reclaim-relevance-ceding-110000509.html) could fit very well under FOFA or the Schadenfreude thread, but since it’s all because of fealty to the felon, here it lands. > [@](#): > > Frustrated lawmakers are looking to 2026 in the hopes that they can reclaim some of the power many fear they’ve ceded to the White House under President Trump. > > Over the course of 2025, the Trump administration unilaterally shuttered or drastically weakened federal agencies, implemented widespread tariffs, canceled congressionally approved spending and conducted military operations in the Caribbean. > > Democrats repeatedly cried foul, and even some Republicans aired concerns about the White House brushing aside Congress. Scores of lawmakers opted for retirement before the calendar even turned to January. > > Now many are wondering whether anything will be different next year, especially with the added political pressure of the approaching midterm elections. > > “Yeah, I’ve been concerned for ten years about that,” Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said when asked about clawing back Congress’ relevance. “I don’t know that it’s getting any better. Seems to be getting worse.” It’s quite the read. And if you’re still supporting any legislator who caved to the felon, you’re 100% complicit in this destruction of the basic American governing ideals. [Some governments are so over the felon’s antics.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/country-makes-call-cancel-visas-184700960.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > Immediately after their nations were added to the ban, multiple diplomats and heads of state [responded with](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/several-countries-immediately-hit-back-204919961.html) condemnation. **Antiguan Prime Minister Gaston Browne issued a statement saying that the Caribbean country’s government was “deeply disappointed” given that the justification accusing it of loose rules for granting citizenship by investment “does not reflect the present reality of our laws.”** > > Two weeks after the expansion of the ban, the West African nation of Niger has taken the most drastic step of [permanently banning any granting of new visas](https://apanews.net/niger-makes-tit-for-tat-visa-restrictions-on-us/) to U.S. visas in a reciprocal measure until the situation changes. > > “Niger is completely and permanently prohibiting the issuance of visas to all U.S. citizens and indefinitely banning entry to its territory for nationals of the United States,” a governmental representative said to the Associated Press. Take another gander at the part I bolded above. The felon has created that very thing in the United States. [Hold onto your seats, folks! Gloria Allred has a cognitive test of her own for Rip van Simple.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gloria-allred-questions-trump-reasons-183318771.html) > [@](#): > > Attorney Gloria Allred on Friday speculated on why the friendship between President Trump and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein ended, and what the [files released by the Justice Department](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/memo-latest-jeffrey-epstein-files-232215045.html) (DOJ) could reveal about the falling out. > > “Well, I‘ve heard different explanations from the White House about why he dropped him,” Allred told CNN’s Phil Mattingly. “One explanation was that he was a pervert, Jeffrey Epstein. But if he was a pervert, in the view of the president — not the president at the time — then why did he believe he was a pervert?” > > “And was he — did he investigate?” Allred continued. “Did he look into what actions or misconduct he knew that perhaps Jeffrey Epstein was inflicting on underage girls, children, or adults?” Logic is, of course, a completely foreign concept to RvS. But I’m sure we can count on another late night meltdown from the Orange Throne Room toot sweet. [A move from the good old days really triggered someone in the felon’s flock of fools.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/stephen-miller-melts-down-immigration-035055745.html) > [@](#): > > Stephen Miller watched an old Christmas special with his children over the holidays—then logged into social media to rant about immigrants. > > The top White House aide, 40, had a bizarre takeaway from watching _The Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra Family Christmas Show_, an iconic holiday special that first aired in [1967](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkb8piEup2A). > > “Watched the Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra Family Christmas with my kids,” Miller wrote in an X post on Friday. “Imagine watching that and thinking America needed infinity migrants from the third world.” > > The beloved Christmas show features the legendary Rat Pack performers singing a medley of holiday hits, including “I’ll Be Home for Christmas” and “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas.” The two stars, both children of Italian immigrants, were then joined by their families in a heartwarming show full of laughter and dancing. The best response to that vitriol is this from the same link. > [@](#): > > “They were both the children of impoverished immigrants, you infinitely repulsive little racist ghoul,” Emmy-winning writer-comedian [Brian Stack](https://x.com/BrianStack153/status/2004631637095780763) added. I remember living on military bases overseas during my time in service and also when I visit such bases these days. One often-shown “spot” (in lieu of commercials) on Armed Forces Network stations has a service member mumbling to themselves (themself?), “The commander isn’t going to like this”. This goes on for about 25 seconds, then the narrator reads the text shown in the sport about not withholding information, and finally the service member reports the facts. [Those days are gone.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fear-retaliation-grips-state-department-165752439.html) > [@](#): > > A severe and unusual fear of being punished for doing their jobs has spread among staff at the State Department’s legal office, bolstering concerns about how the Trump administration is crafting foreign policy, five former State Department officials told HuffPost. > > Lawyers at the Office of the Legal Adviser at State, known as “L,” worry they will face repercussions if they suggest the administration’s plans could break domestic or international law, and suspect they may be evaluated based on their apparent loyalty to President Donald Trump and his political vision, not their expertise and judgment, officials said. They noted that leadership in the office has steadily and atypically become dominated by Trump’s political appointees. The only thing preventing me from saying we have a monarchy right now is the felon’s second term theoretically has an ending date. Why do I say that? The Supreme Court grants him most of his wishes; Congress is now trying to show they have a spine and are not under his control; and he completely ignores the consitutition and even people in his administration who are supposed to guide him on legalites. Come January 20, 2029, I’ll revisit my stance. [Rip van Simple is bragging about how he saved so much money.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-brags-eliminating-over-010212895.html) > [@](#): > > [Donald Trump](https://people.com/tag/donald-trump/), who has touted himself as [a “president for the workers” who “protects the middle class,”](https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/) has eliminated hundreds of thousands of federal jobs. > > In a Dec. 26 [Truth Social post](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115785935602103818), Trump, 79, shared a screenshot of an [X post](https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2000966123274068007?s=20) from the White House’s Rapid Response account, highlighting how job positions within the U.S. government are at the lowest level since 2014, with 271,000 roles eliminated. Let me help you out here Rip. _ **You put more than a quarter million Americans out of work.** _ You can put that accomplishment right next to the million Americans you got dead during the Pandemic. But, hey, I’ve a question for you. If those jobs shouldn’t’ve existed in the first place, _why didn’t you eliminate them the first time you were disgracing the Oval Office?_ [And here’s yet another reason why you don’t commit a war crime.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-pete-embarrassing-boat-strike-181752073.html) > [@](#): > > Pete Hegseth’s bomb-first, question-later approach to alleged narcoterrorists is reportedly helping those same terrorists get off scot-free. > > A Hegseth-directed bombing on a boat allegedly carrying drugs from Ecuador destroyed the evidence that was crucial to the prosecution of the survivors, according to a damning [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/12/27/us-drug-strike-survivors/) report. > > Andrés Fernando Tufiño Chila, a 42-year-old Ecuadorian native with a drug-trafficking record, was one of two survivors of an [Oct. 16 U.S. strike](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-crows-lethal-drug-boat-230543418.html) on a submarine that the Pentagon alleges was carrying drugs overseas. Two others were killed in the strike, and the fourth was extradited to Colombia. > > The U.S. military captured Chila, then sent him back to Ecuador to be prosecuted. However, the U.S. provided the Ecuadorian government with no evidence that could lead to Chila’s arrest. Any evidence proving that Chila was committing a crime on that boat, such as seized drugs, GPS records, or cell phones, was blasted to the bottom of the sea. > > The Ecuadorian government was forced to let Chila go, according to the Washington Post. [Do you remember those horribly persecuted white South African refugees?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/white-south-african-came-u-003335403.html) > [@](#): > > An Afrikaner who came to the U.S. after President **Donald Trump** claimed the country would be a safe haven for people like him has been held in federal detention for months since his arrival. > > **Benjamin Schoonwinkel** came to the U.S. in September, believing he would be protected after Trump’s many [statements](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/us/politics/trump-south-africa-afrikaners.html) to that effect. But on arriving at an Atlanta airport, he was detained and handcuffed by the U.S. border agents whom Schoonwinkel told he was seeking asylum. > > The South African man was transferred to a federal detention facility within two days and has remained there ever since. After leaving behind a life of relative comfort on the word of Trump, he now sleeps on a metal bunk bed. > > “I never expected this to happen,” Schoonwinkel [said](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/26/us/trump-afrikaner-ice.html) in a video interview with _The New York Times_ this month. “I expected a little bit of red tape.” > > Stewart Detention Center in Lumpkin, Georgia has about 2,000 other occupants, most of whom were taken there as a result of Trump’s immigration crackdown. Schoonwinkel says the fact that he is white has perplexed his fellow detainees, most of whom are of Latin American descent. > > “They all ask me, ‘What are you doing here?'” he said. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1048 "2025-12-28T05:59:48Z")
Trump’s decision to move marijuana to Schedule III apparently resulted in an Oval Office shouting match between Mike Johnson, Dr. Oz, and the sheriff of Bradford County, FL. > **['They started yelling': Insider says aides 'had to stop Trump' from leaking...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-leak-2674832642/)** > > There was a highly charged confrontation at the White House that resulted in Donald Trump overriding Mike Johnson and others on the religious right, and after that the president had to be stopped by aides from leaking the details to the public,... ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1049 "2025-12-28T08:16:07Z")
Did I read that right — the sheriff of a rural Florida county (and home to the Florida State Prison) was in favor of rescheduling? Watch out for falling pig doots. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1050 "2025-12-28T08:34:36Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Did I read that right — the sheriff of a rural Florida county (and home to the Florida State Prison) was in favor of rescheduling? Apparently so. > **[‘It’s time’: After years enforcing weed laws, Gordon Smith urges legalizing...](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/702592-its-time-gordon-smith-after-years-enforcing-weed-laws-urges-legalizing-recreation-pot/)** > > 'No one has arrested more people for marijuana than me.' ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1051 "2025-12-28T08:44:04Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The only thing preventing me from saying we have a monarchy right now is the felon’s second term theoretically has an ending date. I question the use of the term “monarchy” here, for several reasons. First, there’s no real sense that anyone in Trump’s family is seriously considered as an heir to his seat in the Oval Office; questions of succession are consistently about which ghoul in his inner circle will be able to consolidate and maintain power upon his exit from this world. Second, historically, the _absolute_ monarch who operates with zero constraints on authority is kind of a rarity, so it doesn’t feel to me like a good match for what Trump and his minions are trying to construct. Third, I myself live in a modern monarchy, but it’s a _constitutional_ monarchy where the government and legislature are chosen by the people in free elections while the person on the throne is explicitly a figurehead with no power. There are, in other words, many _kinds_ of monarchies, so the word itself needs further qualification. The closest modern equivalent to what the Trump Gang is pursuing is probably Tajikistan — an unchallenged unitary executive combined with an overpowering cult of personality. Of course, they’re also uneducated, uninformed morons who couldn’t find Tajikistan on a map and wouldn’t know the difference between Emomali Rahmon and Rahm Emanuel, so in their minds they’re more likely aiming for something between Putin in Russia and the Kim clan in North Korea. Neither of these is considered a monarchy (and this even though the Kims have established a multi-generational family dynasty). I’m willing to hear your argument to the contrary, but on its face I think “monarchy” feels like the wrong word for the imminent American dictatorship. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1052 "2025-12-28T09:06:18Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > the president had to be stopped by aides from leaking the details to the public The only way to keep _le traître orange_ from leaking any details to anyone is to accompany him to the golden throne room in the _wee_ hours of the morning and slap that fucking phone out of his dinky digits. > [@Cervaise](#): > > I’m willing to hear your argument to the contrary, but on its face I think “monarchy” feels like the wrong word for the imminent American dictatorship. I agree with everything you say. I claim “American usage”. Even if there’s no such thing regarding the word in question! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1053 "2025-12-28T09:48:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The only way to keep _le traître orange_ from leaking any details to anyone is to accompany him to the golden throne room Does his Orangeness have a **[Groom of the Stool](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool)** already? That took longer than I thought. > The Groom of the Stool was a male servant in the household of the English monarch who was responsible for assisting the king in his toileting needs. It is a matter of some debate as to whether the duties involved cleaning the king’s anus, but the groom is known to have been responsible for supplying a bowl, water and towels and also for monitoring the king’s diet and bowel movements and liaising with the Royal Doctor about the king’s health. The appellation “Groom of the Close Stool” derived from the item of furniture used as a toilet. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1054 "2025-12-28T12:32:37Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > “Yeah, I’ve been concerned for ten years about that,” Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said when asked about clawing back Congress’ relevance. “I don’t know that it’s getting any better. Seems to be getting worse.” Such utter passivity! 🤬 Being “concerned” isn’t even a thing. It’s a declaration of voluntary impotence. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1055 "2025-12-28T12:36:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’ve said it before, and I’m sure I’m going to say it again. The felon colors himself the way he does because he thinks the Sun is that color and he believes everything revolves around him. Make America Chang Again! [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mJ_HhT-tneA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHUBoAC3gOKAgwIABABGHIgRSgpMA8=&rs=AOn4CLD-uKc62De2ftrQZnVA60rjW6JebA "Chang eats the sun and drinks the sky") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ_HhT-tneA) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1056 "2025-12-28T15:11:01Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Does his Orangeness have a **[Groom of the Stool](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool)** already? Depends ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1057 "2025-12-28T15:58:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > ### [‘They started yelling’: Insider says aides ‘had to stop Trump’ from leaking…](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-leak-2674832642/) The title cutoff in the article preview amuses me. Leaking what? Being trump, it could be any number of things. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1058 "2025-12-28T16:37:00Z")
Reminds me of when aides felt compelled to restrain and walk back Ronald Reagan’s move toward abolishing nuclear weapons, during a meeting with Gorbachev in Iceland. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1059 "2025-12-28T17:54:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Being “concerned” isn’t even a thing. It’s a declaration of voluntary impotence. I’m guessing he’s taking lessons in brow-furrowing from Sen. Collins. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1060 "2025-12-28T21:57:54Z")
Trump’s left hand is starting to show discoloration now as well, and the right is looking even worse. [![](https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/the-bruised-right-hand-of-u-s-president-donald-trump-is-visible-during-a-meeting-with-south-korean-president-lee-jae-myung-at-t.jpg?id=61528557&width=3600&height=2504) ](https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/the-bruised-right-hand-of-u-s-president-donald-trump-is-visible-during-a-meeting-with-south-korean-president-lee-jae-myung-at-t.jpg?id=61528557&width=3600&height=2504) He’s starting to look like the guy in a zombie movie who got bitten half an hour ago and hasn’t told anyone yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=54)