# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1101 "2025-12-30T07:10:09Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I wonder if anyone will have the guts to petition against this, and whether the High Court of Justice will hear them. Is there a procedure to protest against this? Must the petitioner be a citizen or resident of Israel? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1102 "2025-12-30T07:21:12Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > In that case, allow me to register my disgust that such a prestigious award has been so egregiously debased by awarding it to someone so wholly undeserving. I’m sure that you meant to say “_unqualified_ and undeserving.” As @Alessan explained, a recipient must be an Israeli citizen or a long-term resident. Trump is neither; therefore, he is plainly unqualified for this award. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1103 "2025-12-30T07:24:50Z")
Yes. Any Israeli citizen can file a petition against any action or inaction of the Israeli government. They have to have standing to sue for damages, but anyone can demand that the government do something or stop doing something, and the court may consider the matter. If it rules that the government is operating in violation of the law or of the nation’s principles, it can issue orders such as injunctions, mandamus and Habeas Corpus, as well as through declaratory judgments (see [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_Israel#High_Court_of_Justice)). The Israeli Supreme Court is a VERY activist court, making it Bibi’s public enemy no. 1. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1104 "2025-12-30T07:30:45Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’m sure that you meant to say “_unqualified_ and undeserving.” You could add any number of qualifiers to my statement, as I’m certain that, in addition to being unqualified and undeserving, Trump is also unworthy, incapable, incoherent, unbefitting, unintelligible, unbecoming, incomprehensible, and possessing of an undesirable aroma. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1105 "2025-12-30T13:24:56Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > and I don’t think he’s constitutionally capable of that, If there is one thing trump is, it’s unconstitutional. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1106 "2025-12-30T17:42:39Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Rip van Simple has admitted to an actual war crime against Venezuela. Is this actually a war crime? it seems to me to be simply an act of war (which is as yet not authorized by Congress). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1107 "2025-12-30T18:01:17Z")
Or simply a crime. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1108 "2025-12-30T18:01:55Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Is this actually a war crime? Civilian infrastructure? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1109 "2025-12-30T18:09:14Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > If there is one thing trump is, it’s unconstitutional. And yet Trump will depend on the Constitution to cover his sorry ass and pay him when/if he leaves the office, and our allowing him to do this will cement the disdain other countries have for us. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1110 "2025-12-30T23:36:30Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Those of us who have had chemotherapy are familiar with something called a “port”, an implanted device that allows medical personnel to dump medications into one’s bloodstream without poking around for veins, bruising, etc. If he’s needing that much IV treatment I sort of wonder why they haven’t installed one yet. I asked the same question in another thread (don’t recall which). Being a cancer patient myself, I do have a port. For some procedures, though, such as when I get a CT, they still use a vein in the crook of my arm—not every medical professional is trained in how to use the port. Getting one installed is a hospital procedure, and maybe that was ruled out for Donald for PR reasons. Or maybe there’s some other issue with threading a port-line through his jugular. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1111 "2025-12-31T02:15:29Z")
Maybe he has one, hidden in his neck labia. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1112 "2025-12-31T02:16:41Z")
Lauren Boebert isn’t very happy with Dear Leader right now. > **['That's on them!' MAGA rep goes scorched earth on Trump for vetoing state's...](https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-2674838520/)** > > Firebrand Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) went scorched earth on President Donald Trump on Tuesday after he vetoed a water project in her state.According to a statement Boebert's office shared with journalist Kyle Clark, the Trump administration... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1113 "2025-12-31T06:07:15Z")
So, he’s now lost Perjury Traitor Greene _and_ Boebert, the \*Beetlejuice" aficionado? I wonder who else is going to desert his [swamp boat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airboat). [The felon and his flock of fools are rewriting _Oliver Twist_.](https://www.aol.com/articles/hhs-freezes-child-care-payments-232300065.html) > [@](#): > > The Department of Health and Human Services said Tuesday it has frozen federal child care funding for the state of Minnesota, citing [viral fraud allegations](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-fraud-nick-shirley-video-day-care-investigation/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17). > > Deputy HHS Secretary Jim O’Neill announced the move in a [post on X](https://x.com/HHS_Jim/status/2006131302131548627?ftag=YHF4eb9d17), writing that “blatant fraud … appears to be rampant in Minnesota and across the country.” > > “We have turned off the money spigot and we are finding the fraud,” he wrote. > > O’Neill cited a video in which conservative YouTuber Nick Shirley alleged nearly a dozen Minnesota day care centers that receive state funds aren’t actually providing services. O’Neill said the agency has identified the centers mentioned in a video and demanded that the state carry out a “comprehensive audit” of them, including “attendance records, licenses, complaints, investigations and inspections.” > > CBS News [conducted its own analysis](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-fraud-nick-shirley-video-day-care-investigation/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) of day care centers mentioned by Shirley. All but two have active licenses, according to state records, and all active locations were visited by state regulators within the last six months. The analysis found dozens of citations for safety, cleanliness and other issues, but no recorded evidence of fraud. So no fraud. I know one place, in Washington, DC, with a convicted fraud in residence. Perhaps Killer Kennedy should focus there. [And, of course, any food they get, they won’t enjoy, that is if KK gets his way.](https://www.aol.com/articles/snap-bans-soda-candy-other-170914936.html) > [@](#): > > Starting Thursday, Americans in five states who get government help paying for groceries will [see new restrictions](https://apnews.com/article/snap-cuts-candy-soda-food-stamps-b6351b86a17b281b67480fe2d24b54f4) on soda, candy and other foods they can buy with those benefits. > > Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, Utah and West Virginia are the [first of at least 18 states](https://apnews.com/article/nebraska-snap-soda-energy-drinks-usda-58386e00e88b21e7564b8f326c282a37) to enact waivers prohibiting the purchase of certain foods through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP. > > It’s part of a push by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins to urge states to strip foods regarded as unhealthy from the $100 billion [federal program](https://apnews.com/article/snap-how-it-works-cards-e061c2af0f3cc997b69a24296238783c) — long known as food stamps — that serves 42 million Americans. > > “We cannot continue a system that forces taxpayers to fund programs that make people sick and then pay a second time to treat the illnesses those very programs help create,” Kennedy said in a statement in December. And, hoo, is he off to a raring start! (It’s the same link; the **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > But retail industry and health policy experts said state SNAP programs, already under pressure from steep [budget cuts,](https://apnews.com/article/what-is-republican-trump-tax-bill-f65be44e1050431a601320197322551b) are unprepared for the complex changes, with **no complete lists of the foods affected** and technical point-of-sale challenges that vary by state and store. And this part is right there in _Please, sir; may I have more_ territory. (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > The National Retail Federation, a trade association, predicted longer checkout lines and more customer complaints as SNAP recipients learn which foods are affected by the new waivers. > > **“It’s a disaster waiting to happen of people trying to buy food and being rejected,”** said Kate Bauer, a nutrition science expert at the University of Michigan. [Water for Colorado? Control of their own lands for Native Americans? VETO!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-issues-first-vetoes-term-031652243.html) > [@](#): > > President Trump used his veto power this week for the first time since returning to the White House, rejecting a pair of bipartisan bills designed to make it easier to build a water pipeline in Colorado and give a Native American tribe more control over a portion of the Everglades. > > Mr. Trump vetoed the two bills on Monday, the White House [announced on X](https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2006138352118931728/photo/2?ftag=YHF4eb9d17), after they were sent to his desk earlier this month. The bills had backers in both parties, and they passed the House and Senate through voice votes. Both houses of Congress would need to pass the bills again by a two-thirds margin to override the president’s veto. & > [@](#): > > One of the bills — the Miccosukee Reserved Area Amendments Act — would have added a [small village called the Osceola Camp](https://www.nps.gov/ever/learn/news/osceola-cure-plan-ea.htm?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) to a section of the Florida Everglades that the Miccosukee Native American Tribe has control over. It would also require the Department of the Interior to take action to protect structures in the village from flooding. & > [@](#): > > The other piece of legislation that faced a presidential veto this week was the Finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act. That bill was aimed at completing a long-planned water pipeline that could serve some 50,000 people in southeastern Colorado. [Rip van Simple thinks a dead falcon in Israel is a Bald Eagle in America.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trumps-post-fallen-eagles-embarrassingly-020637316.html) > [@](#): > > President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) on Tuesday made a fowl suggestion [in a post](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115810938895873142) to his social media platform as he claimed that [windmills](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/windmills) “are killing all of our beautiful Bald Eagles” alongside a picture of a dead bird beneath a wind turbine. > > But the photo depicts a falcon killed by a wind turbine in Israel, according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, which [published the image](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2017-12-20/ty-article/wind-turbines-in-israel-kill-many-more-birds-bats-than-expected/0000017f-f45b-d47e-a37f-fd7fdbd70000) in 2017. > > The wind turbine in the picture, seemingly a screenshot from Google Images, clearly features writing in Hebrew. [We still don’t need no stiking constitution, evidently.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/immigration-lawyers-tell-judge-ice-235331865.html) > [@](#): > > Oregon[immigration attorneys told a federal judge Thursday](https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/10/ice-accused-of-denying-legal-counsel-to-immigrants-detained-in-oregon.html) they’re regularly unable to meet with or meaningfully represent clients during appointments because of roadblocks set by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. > > Katrina Kilgren, an immigration attorney, testified she and her colleagues [are no longer allowed to accompany their clients](https://www.oregonlive.com/topic/ice-in-oregon/index.html) to appointments inside ICE’s wing of the Eugene Federal Building. She said she had not made it past the building’s lobby since September. > > “When I call [the ICE office], I’m not reaching anybody. When I email, I often don’t hear back, and when I go in person, I’m told that I need to sit outside the building and wait for my clients,” Kilgren said. [And now Cruella de Vile has tarnished Norman Rockwell.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/norman-rockwell-granddaughter-slams-ice-005836488.html) > [@](#): > > Norman Rockwell’s family is shaking their heads at the Trump administration’s use of his work. > > Rockwell’s granddaughter, Daisy, blasted the Kristi Noem-led Department of Homeland Security for repeatedly using his evocative paintings and illustrations of American life to promote the administration’s “segregationist” agenda on social media. > > “They used [the paintings]… as though his work aligned with their values, i.e., promoting this segregationist vision of America,” she told [The Bulwark](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/norman-rockwell-museum-magafication-trump-culture-dhs). “And so of course we were upset by this, because Norman Rockwell was really very clearly anti-segregationist.” > > Earlier [this month](https://www.instagram.com/p/DSa0wDWiQPg/), the DHS uploaded a photo of Rockwell’s 1939 painting dubbed _Santa At The Map_ in a post that was captioned, “America. It is the only place where miracles not only happen, but where they happen all the time.” – Thomas Wolfe.” > > In [September](https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1972784211133342015), the agency used the blank space on Rockwell’s 1946 painting _Working on the Statue of Liberty_ to plaster the words “Protect your homeland” and “Defend your culture” as part of a call for applications to become an immigration goon. > > “‘Those who do not want to be partakers of the American spirit ought not to settle in America.’ - Calvin Coolidge,” the caption read. “BECOME A HOMELAND DEFENDER TODAY.” There’s more of this disgusting stunt at the link. [Speaking of disgusting, the felon attacked the Kennedy family when JFK’s granddaughter died.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-attacks-kennedy-family-021944814.html) > [@](#): > > As the Kennedys mourned the untimely death of [Tatiana Schlossberg](https://people.com/tatiana-schlossberg-dead-11855816) — the daughter of [Caroline Kennedy](https://people.com/tag/caroline-kennedy/) and granddaughter of President [John F. Kennedy](https://people.com/tag/john-f-kennedy/) — [Donald Trump](https://people.com/tag/donald-trump/) took to social media to share posts mocking the famous family. > > Tatiana, the middle child of [Caroline Kennedy](https://people.com/tag/caroline-kennedy/) and her husband, Edwin Schlossberg, died on Tuesday, Dec. 30, at age 35, just over a month after publicly sharing that [she had been diagnosed](https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177) with acute myeloid leukemia. > > The news was shared by the social media accounts for the JFK Library Foundation, on behalf of Tatiana’s family, which included her husband, Dr. George Moran, and their young children, Edwin and Josephine. > > “Our beautiful Tatiana passed away this morning. She will always be in our hearts,” read the [post](https://www.instagram.com/p/DS5cxd6E2p_/), which was signed by “George, Edwin and Josephine Moran, Ed, Caroline, Jack, Rose and Rory.” > > Trump did not directly mention Tatiana’s death in his [social media](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115810906095063775) [deluge](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115810906977143099) following her death. Instead, he shared screenshots of MAGA supporters mocking the famous political family for their recent responses to [his decision to add his name](https://people.com/trump-name-added-kennedy-center-building-following-controversial-vote-11873469) to the Kennedy Center, a historic performance venue in Washington, D.C., which was dedicated as a memorial to JFK following his assassination in Dallas, Texas, in 1963. > > “The Kennedy Family have LONG neglected the Kennedy Center, btw,” claimed one. “They don’t raise money for it. They never show up. And the only Kennedy who has been there recently is a member of Trump’s cabinet.” And then there’s this quite hypocritical accufession. > [@](#): > > “The Trumps have always been supporters of the arts. The Kennedys are supporters of the Kennedys,” read another. Part of my growing up years was spent in the Washington, DC area. I loved visiting the Smithsonian and other important buildings. When I saw those buildings, I saw the best of America. [Evidently all Cruella de Vile sees is puppies.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kristi-noem-demands-emergency-demolition-195025985.html) > [@](#): > > Homeland Security Secretary [Kristi Noem](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kristi-noem-says-dhs-conducting-111221960.html) is making an emergency request to demolish more than a dozen historic buildings in Washington, D.C., citing a “risk to life and property” that she claims endangers federal agents. > > The proposal, first reported by [_The Washington Post_](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/12/30/homeland-security-plan-demolish-buildings-st-elizabeths/), would destroy 17 buildings at St. Elizabeths West Campus, drawing outrage and opposition from preservationists who are already[battling Donald Trump’s administration](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-goes-off-message-alongside-122234995.html)over the destruction of the White House to [make way for the president’s ballroom.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/committee-oversees-federal-building-projects-172945437.html) > > The federal government wants to redevelop the 176-acre campus to build more than 5 million square feet of office space for [a rapidly expanding Homeland Security](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/dhs-inks-140-million-deal-183432317.html), along with enough parking space for 14,000 employees, according to the General Services Administration. > > In a letter to the agency seen by _The Independent_, preservationist groups raised “strong objections” to the proposed demolition of the properties, some of which are more than 100 years old, arguing that there is no such evidence of an “emergency” beyond Noem’s “unilateral declaration” of one. > > “A unilateral declaration like this is problematic because it bypasses the procedural safeguards designed to ensure stability, legitimacy and fairness,” according to a letter from National Trust for Historic Preservation general counsel Elizabeth Merritt and DC Preservation League director Rebecca Miller. Finally, Happy New Year from Beijing! ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1114 "2025-12-31T06:28:01Z")
> [@from Monty's link](#): > > The federal government wants to redevelop the 176-acre campus to build more than 5 million square feet of office space for a rapidly expanding Homeland Security along with enough parking space for 14,000 employees, I thought they were all about making government smaller. Oh, wait, Homeland Security. Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1115 "2025-12-31T07:07:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And yet Trump will depend on the Constitution to cover his sorry ass and pay him when/if he leaves the office Schrodinger’s constitution. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1116 "2025-12-31T11:32:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > In a letter to the agency seen by _The Independent_, preservationist groups raised “strong objections” to the proposed demolition of the properties… “Raised strong objections…” can’t we come up with more potent language than these wimpy statements? This is right up there with being “very concerned.” Do they really think Trump gives a crap about their objections? Even their _strong objections_? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1117 "2025-12-31T15:34:35Z")
I find it plausible that the Orange Peril doesn’t even know, much less care about CdV’s (thanks, @Monty!) intentions. I get the impression that this malAdministration is less a government than a bunch of independent fiefdoms, each going on its merry destructive way with little more than a general guideline to — as Tolkein put it in The Scouring of the Shire — “hack, burn and ruin.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1118 "2025-12-31T16:29:12Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > less care about CdV’s CdV’s … Cannine distemper virus? Help me out here. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1119 "2025-12-31T16:30:36Z")
Canine is about the right direction: Cruella de Vile, puppy killer. At least that is the way I read it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1120 "2025-12-31T16:32:58Z")
Oh I bet she never got her distemper vax. That explains a lot really. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=57)