# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1521 "2026-01-14T03:32:36Z")
There is a GoFundMe called “TJ Sabula is a patriot!!” with $8200 from 127 donors. I won’t link to it, as I don’t know anything about it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1522 "2026-01-14T03:36:22Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Hopefully the local will make sure he’s made whole and back to work soon. Screw that, he needs to run for Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1523 "2026-01-14T03:43:13Z")
The putting of labels on everything in the White House so the dementia patient doesn’t forget where he is continues. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:fwputkzhhk4nmxyosaqygto7/bafkreigzycutjzx5cimxphx6otigvg4przp3qxitl5phu45i7d7kzyx7yy@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:fwputkzhhk4nmxyosaqygto7/bafkreigzycutjzx5cimxphx6otigvg4przp3qxitl5phu45i7d7kzyx7yy@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1524 "2026-01-14T05:16:11Z")
[Let’s talk more war crime, Pete, you disgrace.](https://www.aol.com/articles/plane-used-boat-strike-off-211235340.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The plane used by the U.S. military to strike a [boat accused of smuggling drugs](https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-hegseth-maduro-512c66b99b2a13e9d1a3ed2699e78228) off the coast of [Venezuela](https://apnews.com/hub/venezuela) last fall was painted to look like a civilian aircraft, a move that appears to be at odds with the Pentagon’s manual on the laws of war. > > The plane, part of a secret U.S. fleet used in surveillance operations, also was carrying munitions in the fuselage, rather than beneath the aircraft, raising questions about the extent to which [the operation](https://apnews.com/article/trump-maduro-venezuela-drug-cartels-military-timeline-91e242e5c56eec39b6b7d72bf55dbd2d) was disguised in ways that run contrary to military protocol. > > Details of the plane’s appearance, first reported Monday by The New York Times, were confirmed by two people familiar with the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter. > > Pentagon press secretary Kingsley Wilson said in a statement that “the U.S. military utilizes a wide array of standard and nonstandard aircraft depending on mission requirements.” There’s a mighty big difference between “non-standard aircraft type” and “unlawfully disguised as a non-combatant craft”. [Yo, Rubio. If you’re running Venzuela now, why can’t you find some people?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/rubio-rejects-judge-options-venezuelans-051438005.html) > [@](#): > > Secretary of State Marco Rubio [said Monday](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.229.1.pdf) that it is impossible for the United States to retrieve 137 Venezuelan men who were illegally deported in March after President Donald Trump invoked wartime powers to deliver them abruptly to El Salvador. > > Those men were subsequently sent to their native Venezuela in a prisoner swap last July. And the United States’ decision to surgically remove Nicolas Maduro from power earlier this month has left relations between the two countries in a “delicate” state of flux, the top U.S. diplomat wrote in a two-page legal declaration. > > Rubio said any effort to inject the fate of the 137 men into nascent negotiations with Venezuela’s new leader, Delcy Rodriguez, would “risk material damage to U.S. foreign policy interests.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1525 "2026-01-14T05:32:07Z")
4500 ICEstapo agents have been doxxed. > **[Personal Details of Thousands of Border Patrol and ICE Goons Allegedly Leaked...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/personal-details-of-thousands-of-border-patrol-and-ice-goons-allegedly-leaked-in-huge-data-breach/)** > > A DHS whistleblower appears to have exposed data on federal immigration workers after the shooting of Renee Good. And you’ll NEVER guess who’s on the list! [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gtc6nmiaqo5hxmci63lxrgua/bafkreiandkmtthlwkl5nffohi6h5mkgmornxrw27azbqiauqh4fqd73tv4@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gtc6nmiaqo5hxmci63lxrgua/bafkreiandkmtthlwkl5nffohi6h5mkgmornxrw27azbqiauqh4fqd73tv4@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1526 "2026-01-14T05:32:21Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > This time around, he knew not to make that “mistake” again, and spent four years cultivating his suicide squad of bootlickers and incompetents. You also have to remember that the first time around Trump really didn’t give a shit about being president. At first, he didn’t care that establishment politicians were running things for him. It wasn’t until he realized that it was the biggest grift in history and that _everybody_ had to pay attention to him that he took it seriously. For various definitions of “seriously”. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1527 "2026-01-14T06:02:13Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > There is a GoFundMe called “TJ Sabula is a patriot!!” with $8200 from 127 donors. As of this moment, it’s up to $103,837. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1528 "2026-01-14T08:42:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The putting of labels on everything in the White House so the dementia patient doesn’t forget where he is continues. Why does that look so much like a carnival shooting gallery? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1529 "2026-01-14T08:46:04Z")
To me it looks like a dumpy wedding venue from 1991. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1530 "2026-01-14T10:07:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And you’ll NEVER guess who’s on the list! Why are other names Last, First and his is First Last? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1531 "2026-01-14T10:15:52Z")
There’s quite a few like that in the screenshots that I’ve seen. The site hosting the actual data has been impossible to access for me all evening because of high demand. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1532 "2026-01-14T11:16:14Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Sadly, I don’t think mooning is allowed anymore. Today, you’d become a registered sex offender. May I recommend taping a blank sheet of paper to your derrière and just turning around? That surely is no sex offence, but can clearly be seen. I remember in Russsia they tried to protest against the war in Ukraine (the one that was not a war but a special military operation) by holding up blank sheets of paper. They got arrested nonetheless. Would be worth a try in the USA. > [@Smapti](#): > > ICEstapo I like that one. Just to clarify: Gestapo is an acronym for **Ge** heime **Sta** ats **Po** lizei, that is: Secret State Police. The _sta_ and the _po_ are identical in both languages. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1533 "2026-01-14T11:27:50Z")
I prefer Ice-Ice but it’s probably more accurate to compare them to the Gestapo I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1534 "2026-01-14T11:48:13Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > I prefer Ice-Ice … baby. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1535 "2026-01-14T12:16:05Z")
It appears to have been taken down. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1536 "2026-01-14T12:30:59Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I don’t have a Bluesky account, but this article wasn’t paywalled for me _and_ contains what I assume is the same video: I had a look, and really, those ICE people were pathetic. I mean, sure they wear the swag and carry weapons, but they are absolutely shit at situational awareness. A party of 5yr old Boy Scouts could have taken them on… and won. I guess there is an element of unreasonable arrogance built into fascism. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1537 "2026-01-14T12:37:47Z")
America is entering a new Golden Spray Paint Age. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1538 "2026-01-14T14:09:07Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It appears to have been taken down It’s up, and the goal was raised. Now it’s up to $194,502 raised of $250K. Maybe the site was temporarily down when the account was transferred from his friend to him. This is the “TJ Sabula is a patriot” GoFundMe. There was at least one other account on his behalf that I saw with only a small amount in it ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1539 "2026-01-14T15:41:55Z")
I know it won’t make a bit of difference, but as someone in a thoroughly blue state, contacting my own (Democratic) Senators and Rep doesn’t seem like it will accomplish much. And I know that Republican Senators and Reps in other states don’t really care what an out-of-stater has to say, but I’ve taken to emailing them occasionally in the hopes that someone will see the message and it might resonate with that person, even if it’s some lackey This is what I sent to Senator Kennedy (LA) today: _Good work, Senator. Please, keep doing nothing as the current President continues to consolidate more and more power, and putting utter incompetence into every aspect of government. I know you’re afraid of losing a primary, so certainly complete abdication of responsibility is a logical choice. After all, at this rate, you’ll be the last Senator from Louisiana. You’ve given up oversight of appointments (RFK Jr. is one of your finer moments, Dr. Kennedy). You’ve ceded your constitutional role on tariffs. I see the power to declare war is currently on the chopping block. Well done. Immigration enforcement is a perfectly reasonable thing, but the real coup de grace is your sitting idly by while American Citizens’ 4A rights are trampled._ _You know this won’t end well. Assuming we still have free speech, we’ll hold people like to accountable. Well, no, we won’t be able to actually hold you accountable at that point. But we’ll blame you._ _You should be ashamed._ FTR: I don’t actually think that immigration enforcement is reasonable, at least not indiscriminately, but I didn’t want the reader to be able to pull the “upholding the law” thread. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1540 "2026-01-14T16:13:14Z")
But if we get rid of Senator Kennedy, who’s going to be entering disturbing sexual metaphors into the Senate records? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=78)