# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1541 "2026-01-14T17:44:41Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I was wondering what the hell that even meant when I first saw it. Googling the phrase, there seems to be a consensus that it [originates with Nazi Germany](https://www.threads.com/@kacee_1/post/DTY6YbjkhJu/one-of-ours-all-of-yours-is-from-nazi-germany-it-was-coined-when-an-ss-officer):
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> > “One of ours, all of yours” is from Nazi Germany. It was coined when an SS officer was killed in a Czech Village. Nazis then killed every resident of of the village.

Apparently, that’s not true:

> **[Fact Check: "One Of Ours All Of Yours" Is NOT A Phrase From Nazi Germany --...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-one-ours-yours-085514726.html)**
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> Did the phrase "One of ours all of yours" originate in Nazi Germany after all the residents in a Czech...

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1542 "2026-01-14T17:53:11Z")

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I, for one, am proud that the Department of Homeland Security’s extralegal threat to commit reprisal murder is not based on a Nazi slogan.  
We’re wining our fight to out Nazi the original Fascists! USA! USA! USA!  
/end, bitter, sarcasm

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1543 "2026-01-14T17:58:59Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Apparently, that’s not true

@Cervaise also addressed the unclear origin of the slogan yesterday [in a thoughtful post](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-current-second-trump-administration-a-compendium-of-horrors/1009774/2853) in the ‘compendium of horrors’ thread.

Where did they pull that slogan from then, I wonder, and what exactly is it supposed to convey? I think @Horatius has it right (this post snippet also from the ‘compendium of horrors’ thread):

> And while we’re debating the potential “historicity” of this particular slogan, “One of ours…” let’s not forget: A whole lot of these neo-Nazis aren’t actual historians either, and they probably all accepted the SS origin of the phrase. Even if we’re all wrong about the actual source, I’d bet good money they chose this wording because they themselves believed it was Nazi.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1544 "2026-01-14T18:46:09Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Where did they pull that slogan from then, I wonder, and what exactly is it supposed to convey?

Either made up by somebody and it went viral in the traditional manner. Or an AI hallucination that went viral. Take your pick.

While not a direct quote, the sentiment is certainly in line with Nazi policies of outrageously disproportionate, even cruel retaliation for perceived transgressions. It’s close enough to actual policy that somebody could have said it reminded them of this massacre and it morphed from there, spreading along with the outrage. Or somebody fed it into ChatGPT or something and it came back with something that seemed close enough to what they wanted. Either explanation fits.

It’s pretty clear Noem and the modern brownshirts have no problems borrowing or outright stealing Nazi talking points, even if this particular case was not a direct copy. But I have to believe it is still worth holding onto the notion that objective facts and truth still have value.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1545 "2026-01-14T19:39:14Z")

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Trump Is Gilty!

😁

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1546 "2026-01-14T19:41:53Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> The plane used by the U.S. military to strike a [boat accused of smuggling drugs](https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-hegseth-maduro-512c66b99b2a13e9d1a3ed2699e78228) off the coast of [Venezuela](https://apnews.com/hub/venezuela) last fall was painted to look like a civilian aircraft, a move that appears to be at odds with the Pentagon’s manual on the laws of war.

Isn’t that an act of piracy?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1547 "2026-01-14T19:47:07Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Isn’t that an act of piracy?

Technically, under the Geneva Conventions, it is _[perfidy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy)_, specifically Article 37, clause 1(c). It’s an interesting question as to how this relates to an operation against a noncombatant, but I don’t think our military should engage in acts where there is that amount of gray area involved.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1548 "2026-01-14T19:47:58Z")

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Trump is suspending processing of visas for 75 countries, and lying about the reason.  
[U.S. to stop issuing immigrant visas for 75 countries](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/us-stop-issuing-visas-75-countries-rcna254039)

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1549 "2026-01-14T19:51:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> 4500 ICEstapo agents have been doxxed.

If the released data is just names (not addresses etc), I don’t see how it counts as “doxxed”, given that (outside special cases like covert counter/intelligence agents) there’s no legitimate reason the taxpayers shouldn’t know the names of their employees.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1550 "2026-01-14T20:10:58Z")

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Nobody knew the W was silent

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcfuogxvdw2t)**
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> Trump: "It's actually a legal definition -- 'whole milk.' And it's whole with a W for those of you that have a problem."

Capitalism is when the government owns the means of production

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcfukgchqb2f)**
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> Trump on a new execution action he just took: "We're going to be making 25% on the sale of those chips basically. So we're allowing them to do it but the United States is getting 25% of the chips in terms of the dollar value."

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> [@tracer](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > I was wondering what the hell that even meant when I first saw it. Googling the phrase, there seems to be a consensus that it [originates with Nazi Germany](https://www.threads.com/@kacee_1/post/DTY6YbjkhJu/one-of-ours-all-of-yours-is-from-nazi-germany-it-was-coined-when-an-ss-officer):
> > 
> > > “One of ours, all of yours” is from Nazi Germany. It was coined when an SS officer was killed in a Czech Village. Nazis then killed every resident of of the village.
> 
> Apparently, that’s not true:
> 
> [Fact Check: "One Of Ours All Of Yours" Is NOT A Phrase From Nazi Germany -- However It Was Really Displayed On A Lectern At A DHS Press Conference In New York City](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-one-ours-yours-085514726.html)

The notion of overwhelming retribution is familiar, even if it’s not tied to a specific event.

Ho Chi Minh was supposed to have said:

> You will kill 10 of our men, and we will kill 1 of yours, and in the end it will be you who tire of it.

I’m not sure when he said it, or even IF he said it, but it seems to be related, although it’s howing the reverse of the common interpretation – Kill all of ours in exchange for one of yours, and you’ll still lose.

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> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcfuogxvdw2t)**
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> Trump: "It's actually a legal definition -- 'whole milk.' And it's whole with a W for those of you that have a problem."

There is absolutely no reason not to conclude that before today Donald J Trump thought it was pronounced _wuh-hole_.

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“I’ve taken a lot of cognitive tests”

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcfvfasq4h2o)**
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> Trump: "So milk could help your cognitive ability. Take a cognitive test? I've taken a lot of them. I've aced every one of them because I drink milk."

“We have some milk, it’s been sitting here for 5 days”

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcfvcffbip25)**
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> Trump: "We have some milk here. It's been sitting here for 5 days. I brought it so the press can have some. You can swig it all."

“I open a refrigerator, I see milk with rice and milk with water and milk with everything”

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mcfvvqkfnk2l)**
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> Trump: "I open a refrigerator. I see milk with rice and milk with water and milk with everything and I say, what kind of milk is it? That's what I like right there."

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The notion of overwhelming retribution is familiar, even if it’s not tied to a specific event.

It’s the Chicago Way.

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Actually, I think it’s worse than that. This whole time he thought it was, “Hole Milk.” If he thought so, then everybody must have thought so, so he’s clearing it up for all of us rubes.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1556 "2026-01-14T20:35:57Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The notion of overwhelming retribution is familiar, even if it’s not tied to a specific event.

I’m not arguing the specific phrase, but the Natzees did execute an entire town in France as retribution.

> **[Oradour-sur-Glane](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane)**
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> Oradour-sur-Glane (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}French pronunciation: \[ɔʁaduʁ syʁ ɡlan\]; Occitan: Orador de Glana) is a commune in the Haute-Vienne department, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, west central France, as well as the name of the main village within the commune.
> The original village of Oradour-sur-Glane is widely known for having...

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I found it, now up to $434,388

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I had a look, and really, those ICE people were pathetic. I mean, sure they wear the swag and carry weapons, but they are absolutely shit at situational awareness.
> 
> A party of 5yr old Boy Scouts could have taken them on… and won. I guess there is an element of unreasonable arrogance built into fascism.

These are bullying thugs who attack people they think can’t or won’t fight back. They aren’t prepared to defend themselves because they are all about attacking _nice_ people, not dangerous ones. They’ll happily murder an unarmed woman, but would run screaming from actual criminals.

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> **[Trump's Greenland Invasion Plan Triggers Pentagon Revolt As Top Generals...](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trumps-greenland-invasion-plot-sparks-pentagon-revolt-senior-military-chiefs-resist-orders-1769976)**
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> Senior US military figures are resisting Donald Trump's directive to prepare an invasion plan for Greenland, citing illegality and lack of Congressional support.

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“Citing illegality”?  
Is that a sign… of a spine???  
That sounds like it could catch on!

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