# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/141 "2025-12-04T05:22:01Z")
[What do you mean you can’t discriminate?](https://www.aol.com/news/bondi-blasts-discrimination-lawsuit-immigration-172845321.html) > [@](#): > > Attorney General Pam Bondi pushed back Tuesday after being sued by a [former immigration judge](https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/immigration) who claims she was wrongfully fired — the first legal challenge to the Trump administration’s sweeping removal of more than 100 immigration judges this year. > > The lawsuit, filed Monday by former Ohio immigration Judge Tania Nemer, accuses the Justice Department of discrimination based on sex, nationality and political affiliation. Its filing comes as the administration accelerates its effort to reshape the immigration courts amid record legal clashes over its border crackdown. > > Speaking at a White House Cabinet meeting with President [Donald Trump](https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/donald-trump), Bondi dismissed the discrimination allegations and highlighted the department’s recent push against violent crime and drug trafficking in the face of numerous lawsuits. > > “Most recently, yesterday, I was sued by an immigration judge who we fired,” Bondi said. “One of the reasons she said she was a woman.” > > “Last I checked, I was a woman as well,” she quipped. What about the other reasons, flack? And just because you’re a woman doesn’t mean you cannot be discriminationg against other women. Also, this next bit of information should make you pause and consider your actions and those of your boss. It is not a point of pride. > [@](#): > > Bondi framed the lawsuit as one of hundreds that have been filed against the Trump administration, in what she and other administration officials have described as an effort to oppose the president’s agenda and policies in court. > > “We have been sued 575 times,” Bondi told Trump and members of his Cabinet. “More than every administration going back to Reagan combined.” [Lots of maybe here to rationalize murder.](https://www.aol.com/news/details-emerge-2nd-strike-alleged-230828415.html) > [@](#): > > New details emerged Wednesday about the [second strike](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/3-key-questions-us-boat-strikes-killed-survivors/story?id=128017782)by the U.S. military on an alleged drug smuggling boat on Sept. 2 that killed two survivors, according to a source familiar with the incident, including that the Pentagon had contingency plans for dealing with such situations. > > The strike was the first U.S. military airstrike to target an alleged cartel boat the Trump administration said was smuggling drugs toward the United States. > > An initial strike on the boat left two survivors who were later seen climbing back onto the boat, the source said. > > They were believed to be potentially in communication with other boats in the vicinity and were salvaging some of the drugs that had been the boat’s cargo, the source said. > > Because of these actions, the two survivors were determined to be “still in the fight” and considered to be valid targets. I’m not believing this absent video showing it to be true. And the war criminal doing the orange diarrhea stain’s bidding? How attentive was he to the mattter? > [@](#): > > Hegseth reaffirmed on Tuesday that he had seen a live feed of the Sept. 2 operation but said that, after the initial strike, he had stepped away to carry on with his schedule and did not “personally see” the second strike or the two survivors killed. [This is the closest song I could find for that latest revelation.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFKqOIN0K4Q) [War criminal Hegseth was informed the murders at sea are illegal. Take a wild guess what his response was to such information.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/just-hegseth-reportedly-ousted-admiral-002125524.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth asked U.S. Navy Admiral Alvin Holsey to retire in October after Holsey expressed concerns about the legality of the Trump administration’s boat bombings in the Caribbean, according to a new report. > > On Wednesday, the _Wall Street Journal_ published a [report](https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/hegseth-asked-top-admiral-to-resign-after-months-of-discord-9e7b357f) that cited two unnamed Pentagon officials, who said Hegseth asked the admiral to step down in “a de facto ouster that was the culmination of months of discord between Hegseth and the officer” after Holsey expressed “concerns about the legality of lethal strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean.” > > Shortly after, Hegseth announced that Holsey – the commander of U.S. Southern Command – would be [retiring](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/remarkable-jake-tapper-stunned-white-223827892.html). > > “You’re either on the team or you’re not,” Hegseth reportedly told Holsey. **“When you get an order, you move out fast and don’t ask questions.”** I’m going with the admiral knows more about orders, such as legal vs illegal orders, than the war criminal does. [The war criminal’s megaphones have turned a press desk into Spartacus!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-pete-hand-picked-press-155430496.html) > [@](#): > > On Monday, the new [Pentagon press corps](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-pete-invites-cherry-picked-195220311.html) was allowed into its workspace, with several members boasting on X that they had been assigned the desk previously occupied by Washington Post military affairs reporter Dan Lamothe. > > “The Washington Post and Dan Lamothe used to occupy this desk inside the Pentagon press room,” a gleeful Loomer posted to her 1.8 million X followers. “Now it’s mine!” > > However, similar boasts about claiming Lamothe’s former desk were also made by RedState’s R.C. Maxwell, as well as right-wing content creators [Cam Higby](https://x.com/camhigby/status/1995621206570271014) and[Lance Johnston.](https://x.com/lancevideos/status/1995620348600229951) > > In a series of posts, Lamothe mocked the group for all claiming the same desk, [writing,](https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/1995583654970753497) “Y’all are going to have to work this one out for yourselves,” and, “By my count, I’ve got at least two or three desks left at the Pentagon. Lost count.” And the real kicker is here. > [@](#): > > Lamothe [added](https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/1995592601987416190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1995592601987416190%7Ctwgr%5E07a4c942c036fa4c5d624edbc7d5a73e8ed368cb%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fa-picture-is-worth-1000-words-the-internet-reacts-to-laura-loomer-getting-a-desk-at-the-pentagon%2F) that the Post had actually “given up” the desk the influencers believed they had taken from him back in March and that the paper had “floated among empty desks after that.” [But, hey, here’s a journalist with integrity.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/morning-joe-cuts-off-white-164410560.html) > [@](#): > > MS NOW’s “Morning Joe” refused to give airtime to a White House statement defending the use of a pop star’s music in controversial immigration videos. > > On Tuesday, pop singer Sabrina Carpenter [publicly condemned](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/sabrina-carpenter-flames-trump-using-175031028.html) the Department of Homeland Security and ICE for using her song _Juno_ in videos depicting immigrants being detained and deported. Carpenter called the misuse “evil and disgusting” and warned, “Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda.” > > In response, Abigail Jackson issued a statement defending the agency’s actions: “Here’s a Short n’ Sweet message for Sabrina Carpenter: we won’t apologize for deporting dangerous criminal illegal murderers, rapists, and pedophiles from our country. Anyone who would defend these sick monsters must be stupid, or is it slow?” > > When Morning Joe host Mika Brzezinski attempted to read Jackson’s statement on air, her co-host Joe Scarborough immediately cut her off. > > “Nope, nope, nope, nope. We’re not going to read the lies,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/142 "2025-12-04T05:58:27Z")
> [@Monty's source](#): > > Because of these actions, the two survivors were determined to be “still in the fight” and considered to be valid targets. “Still in the fight”??? Fighting for their lives perhaps. They had no fight with the USA. Jesus wept. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/143 "2025-12-04T06:05:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “We have been sued 575 times,” Bondi told Trump and members of his Cabinet. “More than every administration going back to Reagan combined.” Even if this is true, (and I certainly wouldn’t take Bondi’s word for it), I want to let Pam in on a little secret… That’s because… “YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING CRIMINALS!” See, no need for any self-aggrandizing conspiracy theory. Criminals commit crimes, and they get sued for it. Very simple. You and your cohort are just more prolific than most. Own your accomplishments. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/144 "2025-12-04T06:12:05Z")
> We won’t apologize for deporting dangerous criminal illegal murderers, rapists, and pedophiles from our country. And yet Trump is still in America. Trump: I still have murders left. ---
**Author:** ![Decomposed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/decomposed/32/20342_2.png) [@Decomposed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Decomposed)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/145 "2025-12-04T06:12:53Z")
Does USA Today (always left) say post-election that it could be the start of a red wave? Van Epps won by 9, after all, blowing away the Emerson University poll. Of course not. Left leaning news sites don’t like to remind people of their screwups. ---
**Author:** ![Decomposed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/decomposed/32/20342_2.png) [@Decomposed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Decomposed)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/146 "2025-12-04T06:28:53Z")
I checked the story with A.I. (Microsoft’s Copilot). Here’s the result: [Copilot’s Response to Vance Question](https://iili.io/fIIzwa2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/147 "2025-12-04T06:36:06Z")
> [@Decomposed](#): > > Van Epps won by 9, after all, blowing away the Emerson University poll. The Emerson poll was an outlier; other polls on that race were much closer to the actual results. And, regardless, Van Epps’ margin of victory was far smaller than Trump’s margin in that district a year ago. > **[Tennessee Seventh District Special Election 2025: Latest Polls](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/tennessee-us-house-7-special-election-polls-2025.html)** > > Track the latest polls about Democrat Aftyn Behn and Republican Matt Van Epps in the special election in Tennessee's Seventh Congressional District. ---
**Author:** ![Decomposed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/decomposed/32/20342_2.png) [@Decomposed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Decomposed)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/148 "2025-12-04T06:50:00Z")
Trump is almost 80. For your statement to be true, he would have had to have been sentenced for something very serious when he was 40. What crime are you saying he did commit or would have committed in 1985 or earlier? I don’t think you’ll be able to answer this. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/149 "2025-12-04T06:51:39Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [There’s no need to worry about climate change when you are the one controlling the weather.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/newsom-trolls-ice-barbie-she-215030034.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > California Governor Gavin Newsom sarcastically alerted America that “Trump controls the weather” after DHS Secretary Kristi Noem thanked the president for a peaceful hurricane season. That’s very, very good.👏 😆 ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/150 "2025-12-04T09:13:35Z")
> [@Decomposed](#): > > What crime are you saying he did commit or would have committed in 1985 or earlier? The Fashion Police would like to have a word with you… ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/151 "2025-12-04T09:55:29Z")
> [@Decomposed](#): > > What crime are you saying he did commit or would have committed in 1985 or earlier? I don’t think you’ll be able to answer this. Perhaps not crimes _per se_, but after assuring the city of New York that he would preserve the historically-significant bas-reliefs of the Bonwit-Teller building, he demolished them in 1980. Or rather, his contractors did. Then, he didn’t pay the contractors what they were owed. Trump never pays contractors what they are owed; that’s been proven time and time again. He also doesn’t care about historically-significant structures, such as the East Wing of the White House. Crimes? Well, he’s a convicted felon. What else do you need? ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/152 "2025-12-04T11:08:19Z")
I’d like to think more people knew who he was in the 80’s & 90’s - a semi-rich, slumlord and racist. Yet Chris Columbus needed a place to shoot some of Home Alone 2 and The Plaza was available only if trump could be in it to make a cameo; so his media presence good or bad, became more prominent. Besides not following promises to preserve historical places one of his most clever tax tricks was buying land just north of NYC for $2.75 million in 1998 to build a golf course. He couldn’t secure the permits to allow him to convert old wetlands and farms so he “donated” it to New York State in 2006 if they named it after him, with George Pataki the republican governor praising him. Trump took a $100 million tax write off. > Trump said, “I have always loved the City and State of New York and this is my way of trying to give something back. I hope that these 436 acres of property will turn into one of the most beautiful parks anywhere in the world.” He does like the word “beautiful”. The park closed in 2010, having fallen into disrepair and gotten worse since. Trump even threatened somehow to get his donation money back. Yet by then he was a “political pundit” after challenging Obama’s birth certificate. Then “You’re fired” show (The apprentice?). A serial bankruptee (6, depending on how you count them, yet all chapter 11 so he could sell the assets to his next company), non-paying slumlord. And now a felon who can do what he wants, and order others to do what they want and remains un-impeachable. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/153 "2025-12-04T14:02:29Z")
And he’s not even Jewish! ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/154 "2025-12-04T14:34:14Z")
When did he rape E. Jean Carroll? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/155 "2025-12-04T16:02:08Z")
Late 1995 or early 1996. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/156 "2025-12-04T16:31:14Z")
I think his poor behavior probably started in his 20s. Wouldn’t surprise me if his father bailed him out earlier. I grew up back east 60s and his name was always associated with shady business. The creator of the apprentice, Mark Burnett, should be forever shunned. (he really was good at creating hit shows, I give him that) ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/157 "2025-12-04T17:59:46Z")
Well, if that’s too late for the questioner, my money says he did the same or worse to some other woman(en) (or child/ren) who will never come forward. It’s a pity that festering asshole is not a prosecutable crime. He’s certainly guilty of that. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/158 "2025-12-04T20:41:23Z")
1. **1991 – Trump Taj Mahal** 2. **1992 – Trump Plaza Hotel** 3. **2004 – Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts** (the public parent company) 4. **2009 – Trump Entertainment Resorts** (the successor company) (the latter two are sometimes counted as two) So as **Gyrate** said, between #2 and #3, and one count that never was really counted 1992 was also when he impelled Chris Columbus to get his “Home Alone 2” cameo in the Plaza (which he only owned a small fraction of) There have been calls to CGI the adult Macauley Culkin instead. I have called for trump to be hit in the head by a paint bucket. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/159 "2025-12-04T20:53:46Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I have called for trump to be hit in the head by a paint bucket. That could only improve him. In looks and intelligence. I mean, it sure couldn’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/160 "2025-12-04T21:02:32Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I have called for trump to be hit in the head by a paint bucket. Full of pig’s blood! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=9)