# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
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> [@dtilque](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > He just wants it for the wrong reasons, chiefly the money.
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> > [@wguy123](#):
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> > Being a gold-plated shiny thing to add to his gaudy oval office is #1.
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> I disagree that either of those is the main reason he wants a Nobel Peace Prize. I would say that the main reason is that Obama got one. He has to do better, so he really wants two. Or more, how many wars has he ended?

He’s said that he [“deserves a Nobel for every war he’s stopped,”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nobel-peace-prize-eight-wars-b2897282.html) so he thinks he’s due 8 1/4 of them.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1622 "2026-01-16T19:03:29Z")

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Then give them 8 1/4 prizes. On condition that he eats them all in one sitting.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1623 "2026-01-16T20:27:33Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> OK, he has the Peace Prize. Now he get back to work on the important things, like threatening to invade Greenland.

Or as [Heather Cox Richardson points out in her Substack](https://substack.com/home/post/p-184739816?source=queue) today [my bold throughout]:

> You know what Americans aren’t talking about very much today after Trump’s threat to detonate the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) this week and his threat this morning to invoke the Insurrection Act in Minnesota?
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> They aren’t talking a lot about the fact that the Department of Justice has released less than 1% of the **Epstein** files despite the law, the **Epstein** Files Transparency Act, Congress passed requiring the release of those files in full no later than December 19. Trump loyalists are trying to shift public anger at Trump over the files back to former president Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whom QAnon conspiracy theorists believed were at the heart of a child sex trafficking scheme.
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> Representative James Comer (R-KY) has threatened to hold former president Clinton in contempt of Congress for refusing to appear for a closed-door deposition about **Epstein**. But in a scathing four-page public letter to Comer, the Clintons called the subpoenas invalid and noted that Comer had subpoenaed eight people in addition to the Clintons and had then dismissed seven of them without testimony.
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> They also noted that Comer had done nothing to force the Department of Justice to release all the **Epstein** files as required by law, including all the material relating to them, as Bill Clinton has publicly called for. They said, “There is no plausible explanation for what you are doing other than partisan politics.”  
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Oh yeah… 🤔 I remember hearing something about that a while back…

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Or as [Heather Cox Richardson points out in her Substack](https://substack.com/home/post/p-184739816?source=queue) today [my bold throughout]:

Indeed. We’re not talking about inflation anymore, either. **Flood the Zone.**

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1625 "2026-01-16T20:57:45Z")

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Is your “friend” in the room with us, Donald?

> **['Another self own': Trump comment sparks internet rumors of president on Ozempic](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-ozempic-2674902242/)**
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> President Donald Trump touted Friday his new health care plan, which he dubbed “The Great Health Care Plan” during a press conference from the White House, but his meandering remarks about a “friend” who took the weight-loss drug Ozempic quickly...

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1626 "2026-01-16T21:14:09Z")

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Of course he took Ozempic. Did anyone think he shed a few pounds through diet and exercise? For a man who’s never done a honest days work in his life, that sort of discipline would come dangerously close.

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> The pig is looking for lipstick.

For which end…?

> **[Donald Trump’s Former ICE Chief to Be Honored at Notorious Anti-Muslim...](https://theintercept.com/2018/09/01/act-for-america-conference-thomas-homan/)**
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> ACT for America, which is run by an infamous anti-Islam activist, will be honoring former ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan at an event next week.

[![](https://www.advocate.com/media-library/kristi-noem-autobiography-not-my-first-rodeo.jpg?id=52190901&width=1200&height=1200&coordinates=222%2C0%2C323%2C0) ](https://www.advocate.com/media-library/kristi-noem-autobiography-not-my-first-rodeo.jpg?id=52190901&width=1200&height=1200&coordinates=222%2C0%2C323%2C0)

[![](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8084c6d18049f20cf802c97a7418b903e209c428/427_0_4085_3268/master/4085.jpg?width=220&dpr=1&s=none&crop=5%3A4) ](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8084c6d18049f20cf802c97a7418b903e209c428/427_0_4085_3268/master/4085.jpg?width=220&dpr=1&s=none&crop=5%3A4)

[![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwqDU3TDDeiikZdUjd3SfQ2QNZ6uCI5UMw0A&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwqDU3TDDeiikZdUjd3SfQ2QNZ6uCI5UMw0A&s)

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It has to be the “Perfect Health Care Plan!”

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NOT… The Big Beautiful Healthcare Plan?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1630 "2026-01-17T01:44:23Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> He’s said that he [“deserves a Nobel for every war he’s stopped,”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nobel-peace-prize-eight-wars-b2897282.html) so he thinks he’s due 8 1/4 of them.

He must think the number of wars he’s stopped isn’t high enough for the Nobel committee. That’s why he’s starting more. The more he starts, the more he can stop.

> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Of course he took Ozempic. Did anyone think he shed a few pounds through diet and exercise?

Wait a moment here. Why does someone who “is in perfect health” need to be losing weight?

> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> For a man who’s never done a honest days work in his life, that sort of discipline would come dangerously close.

He’s never done an honest _thing_ in his life. And he has zero discipline.

[Rip van Simple has unleashed some of his Simpletons against a state governor and a city mayor.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/doj-investigating-walz-frey-over-225300531.html)

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> The Justice Department is investigating Minnesota officials, including Gov. Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, over an alleged conspiracy to impede federal immigration agents, an extraordinary escalation in the Trump administration’s clash with Democratic leaders there, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CBS News.
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> One of the sources, a U.S. official, said the investigation stems from statements that Walz and Frey have made about the thousands of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and Border Patrol agents [deployed to the Minneapolis region in recent weeks](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-federal-agents-crackdown/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17).

And exactly what did they say that that has gotten Rip van Simple’s unidentified head crittter’s dander up?

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> Walz said in a statement: “Two days ago it was [Elissa Slotkin](https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/elissa-slotkin-federal-investigation-trump-administration-video-illegal-orders/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17). Last week it was [Jerome Powell](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-subpoenas-federal-reserve-building-renovations-jerome-powell/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17). Before that, [Mark Kelly](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-mark-kelly-demotion-censure-pension-pentagon/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17). Weaponizing the justice system and threatening political opponents is a dangerous, authoritarian tactic. The only person not being investigated for the [shooting of Renee Good](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/renee-good-gunshot-wounds-ice-agent-minneapolis-fire-department-report/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) is the federal agent who shot her.”

&

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> Earlier this week, Frey said the federal deployment had created a situation that was “not sustainable.”
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> “We’re in a position right now where we have residents that are asking the very limited number of police officers that we have to fight ICE agents on the street,” Frey said. “We cannot be at a place right now in America where we have two governmental entities that are literally fighting one another.”

Ah, federalism. I miss thee.

[I’m not the only one who thinks this is a war on the constituiton.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/judge-tears-trump-goons-conspiracy-123210222.html) (The **bolding** is mine.)

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> A federal judge tore into senior Trump administration officials for what he described as sweeping violations of the Constitution as part of a “retribution” campaign against critics.
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> U.S. District Judge William Young, a Reagan appointee, didn’t hold back at a Thursday hearing in Boston federal court, accusing the administration of an “unconstitutional conspiracy” to deprive people of their rights.
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> The comments came as the court weighed remedies for the administration’s detentions of pro-Palestinian students at U.S. universities, a campaign the judge has already ruled was unlawful. In unusually blunt language, the judge said the administration’s approach to free speech was rooted in fear and aimed at silencing those who did not fall in line.
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> **“Talking straight here,” Young said during the hearing. “The big problem in this case is that the Cabinet secretaries and ostensibly, the president of the United States, are not honoring the First Amendment.”**
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> **“We cast around the word ‘authoritarian,’” he said. “I don’t, in this context, ‍treat that in a pejorative sense, and I use it carefully, but it’s fairly clear that this president believes, as an authoritarian, that when ‍he speaks, everyone, everyone ‍in Article II is going to toe the ​line absolutely.”**

[Hey, good news! Milk is now “real food”, but not just any ol’ milk.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/maha-revolts-over-trump-pathetic-020137398.html) (The **bolding** is mine.)

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> Make America Healthy Again devotees weren’t too impressed with President Donald Trump’s milk announcement on Wednesday.
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> Trump, 79, signed a law allowing whole milk to be served in school cafeterias alongside low-fat and fat-free options, **reversing a nearly 15-year-old Obama-era policy that banned whole and 2 percent milk from school meals to combat childhood obesity**.
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> The push to reintroduce whole milk to school cafeterias found renewed support under the Trump administration, whose Health Department is led by longtime vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He described the newly signed law as “a long-overdue correction to school nutrition policy.”
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> Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins celebrated the news with a posting spree on X, writing that the new policy “pairs perfectly with our new, REAL FOOD Dietary Guidelines to Make America Healthy Again!”

And this shows you the caliber of, let’s call it thought from the Simpletons supporters. I’m honestly surprised I didn’t see this next bit coming.

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> But MAHA loyalists begged to disagree. Social media users flooded X with demands for the Trump administration to act on raw milk, blasting whole milk as “processed pasteurized c—.”

I guess we won’t have to worry about the next generation if our very own government manages to eliminate them entirely. Seriously, what do you think is going to happen with giving children _unpasteurized milk_ on a daily basis?

[Looks like the convicted felon wants to destroy trade with even more of our allies.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/just-trump-threatens-tariffs-against-163807041.html) (All the formatting is from the article.)

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> President **Donald Trump** threatened to use tariffs to force support for the annexation of Greenland, which he maintains is critical for the United States’ “national security.”
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> “I may put a tariff on countries if they don’t go along with Greenland. We need Greenland [for national security](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-rants-us-needs-greenland-131319738.html). So I may do that,” Trump said at the White House on Friday, without providing specific details about the potential plan.

[Ken Jennings is not a fan of the felon’s ICE.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/jeopardy-fans-react-ken-jennings-141335352.html)

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> [Ken Jennings](https://www.tvinsider.com/people/ken-jennings/) continues to double down on [his political posts](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/jeopardy-host-ken-jennings-makes-004658769.html), despite some backlash from fans who want the [_Jeopardy!_](https://www.tvinsider.com/show/jeopardy/) host to keep away from politics.
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> Taking to the social media app BlueSky on Wednesday (January 14), Jennings shared a photo of a highway warning sign that read, “WATCH FOR ICE.” Alongside the pic, the game show host wrote, “Good reminder from this state highway!”

The rest of the article is a fun read.

[We have a new hero!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-going-viral-teaching-crows-004604488.html) (I removed the formatting for readability.)

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> Ahem, allow me to introduce you to [@biz\_dave,](https://www.threads.com/@biz_dave) a guy over on Threads who has been posting his journey feeding crows — well, more specifically, feeding them so they are trained to attack ~red hats~ in particular.

I’m wondering now if he can train them to distinguish between the felon’s MAGA hats and Greenland’s MAGA hats ( **M** ake **A** merica **G** o **A** way).

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Trump has pardoned this convicted fraudster twice since 2021.

> **[Trump’s pardon of convicted woman is the second time he’s erased her sentence...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/16/politics/wanda-vazquez-trump-pardon-puerto-rico?Date=20260117&Profile=CNN&utm_content=1768618920&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bluesky)**
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> President Donald Trump is issuing a slew of pardons, a White House official said Friday, including granting clemency again to a woman who was convicted for a second time after he commuted her sentence in his first term.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1632 "2026-01-17T06:44:06Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Cult members feel about him the way they’d feel about a toddler: pride and fondness.

As well as profound relief that they don’t have to change his diaper.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1633 "2026-01-17T14:21:35Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> It says something about their mindset that this came as a surprise to them. They really did believe that Americans would rally behind them in support of all these abuses.

Bigots assume everyone else is a bigot, too.

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Everyone who matters, at least. Anyone who cares about “them” is irrelevant.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1635 "2026-01-17T15:25:53Z")

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kristi? She always wears lipstick, wouldn’t be caught shooting, puppies, cos-playing at cecot, or helping rough up brown people (while cos-playing ice agent) without it.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1636 "2026-01-17T19:00:21Z")

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**Here in Midland, Texas, the Last Thing Anyone Wants Is Cheap Venezuelan Oil**

Tariffs have pushed up the cost of materials like chemicals and steel tubes, Midland oil executives say.

As new wells get delayed, workers at oil-services firms are laid off or see their hours cut. “We’re definitely not drilling right now,” Sell said.

Kyle Patterson, engineering manager at local drilling-fluid company Buckeye, said the company had to lay off around 10% of its staff over the past year. “You can’t just sit around and wait for the market to come back,” Patterson said. He wouldn’t be surprised if his own pay is cut soon and is cutting back on travel and restaurant meals.

The number of operating rigs in the Permian Basin is down 14% over the past year, according to analytics company Enverus. Cash-strapped workers spend less at local businesses, hurting the local economy.

Here in Midland, Texas, the Last Thing Anyone Wants Is Cheap Venezuelan Oil  
[wsj.com](http://wsj.com)  
]([https://www.wsj.com/business/energy-oil/oil-prices-jobs-midland-texas-2a818d55](https://www.wsj.com/business/energy-oil/oil-prices-jobs-midland-texas-2a818d55))

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1637 "2026-01-17T19:09:45Z")

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History lesson far beyond the level of our administration populated by podcasters, grifters, and scum.

"I’ve been made aware how Thucydides the Greek affects current American policy - only with the wrong lessons learned. It used to be one of the pillars of Classical education; however, certain ranking officials have only read a few quotes from Thucydides’ _“History of the Peloponnesian War”_ to their detriment.

Thucydides is the author of the infamous quote “The strong do what they could, the weak suffer what they must.” However, that was not the point of Thucydides - it was the warning!

Exactly _because_ Athens bullied their allies in the spirit of this quote and scared them into submission and ‘alliance treaties’ by threatening invasion, blockade or slavery, all their ‘allies’ abandoned them at the time of Athens’ darkest hour and switched sides to Syracuse, which was the beginning of the end for the Athens’ sea-faring empire! Reminiscent of something?

So I bought the book, for I admire the Jeffersonian classically-educated true elites although I’m not. And lo and behold - ever since the beginning, it’s a story eerily reminiscent of our times! Comfortable nations choosing to pay the Athens alliance ‘_in treasure rather than in ships, so the Athens build ships from their allies treasure and when they threatened them, the allies had neither ships nor military experience_’. Ancient superpowers backstabbing and losing allies over arrogance or dishonored treaties. And so forth, so forth. History repeating itself all over again."

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Wasn’t there a gaggle of Republicans who went to the Whitehouse at the height of Watergate and had a heart to heart with Nixon? I was trying to think who could fill that role today and came to the conclusion that no united front the Rs could muster would do any good since trump has pure contempt for the spineless lot of them. They would immediately be traitors and losers.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1639 "2026-01-17T19:42:40Z")

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I always thought it was Barry Goldwater. But you’re right–that wouldn’t work here. For one thing, Nixon wasn’t nuts.

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He was nuts, but within normal parameters.

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