# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1641 "2026-01-17T19:58:53Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I always thought it was Barry Goldwater. But you’re right–that wouldn’t work here. For one thing, Nixon wasn’t nuts. Yes, the group was led by Goldwater (who was, at that point, a Senator), accompanied by two other Republican congressmen: Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott, and House Minority Leader John Rhodes. They told Nixon that he had very few supporters left in Congress, and that he should resign, or face impeachment. [https://www.politico.com/story/2007/02/when-the-gop-torpedoed-nixon-002680](https://www.politico.com/story/2007/02/when-the-gop-torpedoed-nixon-002680) And, yeah, Nixon undoubtedly had some mental issues, but he wasn’t a malignant narcissist with possible dementia. Also, he was being given that news by people whom he’d served with in Congress, who had been his supporters, and whom he actually trusted. Trump trusts no one. A similar attempt today from congressional GOP leaders would lead to Trump rage-Truthing about it, and demanding that they be brought up on treason charges. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1642 "2026-01-17T20:20:02Z")
Why isn’t the prospect of a war with trump at the helm, and Kegbreath in the Pentagon enough to wake the fuckers up? It’s disgusting and embarrassing. And he brags about the boat strikes. If he’s so sure of the number of people killed, someone should ask him how many of them were children. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1643 "2026-01-17T21:51:59Z")
Man accused of lasing Marine One in DC acquitted after 35 minutes of deliberation. Jury nullification is alive and well. > **[Jeanine Pirro Just Suffered Another Major Embarrassment In Federal Court](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/man-charged-with-pointing-laser-marine-one-acquitted_n_696bb597e4b043a36423476b)** > > It's another embarrassing outcome for Jeanine Pirro, who tried to "make a felon out of a homeless man with nothing but a cat toy keychain." ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1644 "2026-01-17T22:15:18Z")
And this may be part of the reason behind the push for milk: Basically only real people drink it, not libs and soyboys (soy girls?) > **[How the alt-right uses milk to promote white supremacy](https://theconversation.com/how-the-alt-right-uses-milk-to-promote-white-supremacy-94854)** > > From #SoyBoy to #MilkTwitter, there’s a sinister side to milk. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1645 "2026-01-17T23:02:50Z")
[Turns out Tarrio is not an ICE employee after all.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/enrique-tarrio-proud-boys-ice/) > [@](#): > > Tarrio’s name did appear in a watchdog database that claims to contain leaked information about ICE personnel — but he was classified as a “propagandist agitator,” not an ICE agent. At the time of this writing, his entry in that database had last been updated in December 2025, more than a month before the reported leak. That’s the key part from _Snopes_. But, wait. Didn’t he get pardoned because the courts railroaded him? (Yes, that’s sarcasm.) [Someone really wants his own version of the Louisiana Purchase.](https://www.aol.com/trump-says-hit-denmark-7-164639347.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump said Saturday that he would impose a new 10% tariff on Denmark and seven other European countries until “a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.” > > The other countries affected would be Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands and Finland. > > Trump said the duties would increase to 25% if a deal is not reached by June 1. > > “China and Russia want Greenland, and there is not a thing that Denmark can do about it,” [Trump wrote on Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115911344443637897). > > “Only the United States of America, under PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP, can play in this game, and very successfully, at that!” he added. There you have it, folks. The president of the United States thinks destroying an important and long-standing alliance is just a game. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1646 "2026-01-17T23:08:00Z")
Let the last word he hears on this earth be someone whispering, “Loser.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1647 "2026-01-17T23:43:31Z")
[![](https://i.imgflip.com/ahnn5e.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/ahnn5e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1648 "2026-01-17T23:56:25Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > He’s just holding it; he never earned it. The Internet is full of memes depicting Donald happily accepting the trophies earned by little kids, awards from dubious sources, etc. An example: [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:hxnwzep5isjqi36ojyhf3ebc/bafkreig7zafpreeszcpdq4pwndvhiiileytn3r2selx7nabkuyns47pcyi@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:hxnwzep5isjqi36ojyhf3ebc/bafkreig7zafpreeszcpdq4pwndvhiiileytn3r2selx7nabkuyns47pcyi@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2026, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1649 "2026-01-17T23:59:51Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Let the last word he hears on this earth be someone whispering, “Loser.” Whispering? No. Let it be a huge crowd shouting it over and over. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1650 "2026-01-18T00:11:32Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > And he brags about the boat strikes. If he’s so sure of the number of people killed, someone should ask him how many of them were children. _“We hit a lot of bad, bad hombres. Some of them quite young. And you know, folks, that takes some skills–it’s not easy to hit the little ones. Many people have said it. We have skills the likes of which the world has never seen–and it better watch out! Thank you for your attention to this matter.”_ > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > To me this is reminiscent of Trump course golf tournament wins that he gives himself every year. Everyone knows he didn’t win the tournament, no reasonable person would feel any sense of accomplishment for getting the win under these circumstances but for some reason he values them. He values them because they are proof of his power. That is, he says to Person A “here is my Golf Club Championship Plaque” and to Person B “here is my Michigan Man of the Year Award” and to Person C “here is my Nobel Peace Prize”------and A, B, and C smile and nod. _Because they know that if they don’t, they will_ **pay.** Power. That’s why Donald doesn’t care that no one believes he’s actually won these “awards.” He adores the fact that everyone has to just…smile and nod. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1651 "2026-01-18T00:24:29Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The Internet is full of memes depicting Donald happily accepting the trophies earned by little kids, awards from dubious sources, etc. I saw one of him accepting a beauty contest crown from Miss Norway. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1652 "2026-01-18T00:36:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “ until a deal is reached for the complete and total purchase of Greenland” Shouldn’t “complete and total” be followed by something more awe-inspiring than working out a purchase deal? “Cartago delenda est, or maybe we can work something out in negotiations.” ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1653 "2026-01-18T01:19:01Z")
Trump wants to start wars when he knows he won’t be around when the bill comes. But no worries, Vance and Kegbreath will take the controls and bring us in for a nice soft landing. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1654 "2026-01-18T01:31:50Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Power. [. . .] He adores the fact that everyone has to just…smile and nod. He who just smiles and nods may be the one with the final power. Trump better watch out. From the calypsos from the Books of Bokonon: “Someday, someday, this crazy world will have to end, And our God will take things back that He to us did lend. And if, on that sad day, you want to scold our God, Why go right ahead and scold Him. He’ll just smile and nod." ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1655 "2026-01-18T01:54:35Z")
From some news item @Monty posted a few posts above: > [@Monty](#): > > Tarrio’s name did appear in a watchdog database that claims to contain leaked information about ICE personnel This refers to that brief excerpt that was posted in this thread a few days ago with Tarrio’s name, yes? I noticed that same excerpt also included the name **Mark Elias**. Mark Elias is a well-established voting rights lawyer. He recently claims he and his firm have 60-some voting rights cases in litigation nationwide. He is highly-placed on Trump’s enemies list. He has a you-toob channel at Democracy Docket (and I think also a substack), and does near-daily videos and also appears often with Brian Tyler Cohen. I highly recommend checking on his stuff. Funny that his name should appear on a leaked list of ICE goons. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1656 "2026-01-18T02:53:28Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Funny that his name should appear on a leaked list of ICE goons. The list includes, apparently, _both_ goons and enemies. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1657 "2026-01-18T05:08:01Z")
Mad King Donald decrees that nobody else is allowed to play football while the Army-Navy game is happening. > **[Trump Vows to ‘Protect’ Army-Navy Game Time Slot](https://frontofficesports.com/trump-vows-to-protect-army-navy-game-amid-cfp-expansion-talks/)** > > Trump announced he will sign an executive order that would guarantee a four-hour “exclusive” broadcast window reserved for Army-Navy. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1658 "2026-01-18T05:19:43Z")
Let’s start off with a real bombshell with this update. [“Denmark doesn’t _ **deserve** _ Greenland because _reasons_.”](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/miller-amid-greenland-push-nations-163852927.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller on Friday doubled down on the Trump administration’s argument that [acquiring Greenland](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-anything-less-greenland-hands-125856072.html) is “essential” for U.S. national security. > > “The new domain of international competition is going to be polar competition,” Miller [told Fox News’s](https://www.foxnews.com/video/6387846618112) Sean Hannity, seeking to justify President Trump’s proposal to take over the Arctic island, a semi-autonomous Danish territory. “That is where more and more resources are being spent by our nation’s adversaries and rivals is the ability to control movement, navigation, lanes of travel in the polar and arctic region.” > > **He added that because Denmark “cannot defend” Greenland, citing weaknesses in their military and economy, that it should not have claims to the land.** That really updends/undermines the whole idea of mutual defense treaties, doesn’t it? What about NORAD? Doesn’t that mean Canada should own all of the United States territory in North America? After all, we’re relying on Canada to defend us there. Rip van Simple and his entire lot of Simpletons need to be impeached post-haste. [Peace Board? More like pieces board, as in pieces of money.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-wants-nations-pay-1-235617859.html) > [@](#): > > Jan 17 (Reuters) - The Trump administration wants nations to pay $1 billion to stay ​on his peace board, Bloomberg News ‌reported on Saturday, citing a draft charter. > > U.S. President Donald ‌Trump would serve as its inaugural chairman and each member state shall serve a term of no more than three years ⁠from this charter’s ‌entry into force, subject to renewal by the chairman, the report ‍said. > > Reuters could not immediately verify the report. But let’s check out [Paul Harvey Voice]the rest of the story[/PHV] > [@](#): > > The White House called the report “misleading” and said there is ​no minimum membership fee to join the “Board ‌of Peace”. > > “This simply offers permanent membership to partner countries who demonstrate deep commitment to peace, security, and prosperity,” the White House said on X. [And let’s stop pretending Rip van Simple gives a hoot about people dealing drugs.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-frees-maga-rep-meth-201539828.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump’s tough-on-crime rhetoric appears to come with a caveat for people in his political orbit. > > Trump quietly [commuted the sentence](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-donald-j-trump-2025-present)of James Womack, son of longtime Arkansas Republican Rep. Steve Womack, granting clemency to a man who pleaded guilty in 2023 to distributing more than five grams of methamphetamine this week. The conviction carried an eight-year federal prison sentence. > > Rep. Womack, a long-time Trump ally who was endorsed by the president during his most recent reelection campaign, publicly thanked Trump the following day. In a [statement](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/16/us/politics/trump-fraudster-pardon.html?unlocked_article_code=1.E1A._7e-.PiE4dQvrSBAq&smid=url-share), the congressman praised the president’s “gracious and thoughtful action,” saying it allowed his son to reunite with family “during a profoundly difficult time.” And we have a two for one! [He’s combined the War on the Press and the War on the Military with the same shot.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-moves-turn-independent-military-033053571.html) > [@](#): > > The Trump administration is exerting political pressure on Stars & Stripes, the independent military newspaper that informs US servicemembers worldwide. > > Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell announced Thursday that the Department of Defense will “modernize” the outlet and “refocus its content away from woke distractions that syphon morale, and adapt it to serve a new generation of service members.” > > Parnell’s statement came as a shock to staffers at Stars & Stripes, who haven’t heard directly about any changes yet, and who now fear that the news outlet’s independence and credibility is at risk. I can’t post any more of that article; it’s just too damned depressing. For the unitiated, [_Stars and Stripes_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_Stripes_(newspaper)) is an indendent but government-supported newspaper serving the Armed Forces of the United States. From the Wikipedia link: > [@](#): > > _ **Stars and Stripes** _ is a daily American military [newspaper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper) reporting on matters concerning the members of the [United States Armed Forces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces) and their communities, with an emphasis on those serving outside the United States.[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_Stripes_(newspaper)#cite_note-2) It operates from inside the [Department of Defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense), but is editorially separate from it, and its [First Amendment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) protection is safeguarded by the [United States Congress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress) to whom an independent [ombudsman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman), who serves the readers’ interests, regularly reports.[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_Stripes_(newspaper)#cite_note-3) You can go to [www.stripes.com](http://www.stripes.com) to download a daily paper without having to pay for an account; also available on that site is a Sunday comics section. Living where I do, I find this service quite useful. But I guess it’ll soon be a thing of the past. King Sadim is turning that into dlog, too, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1659 "2026-01-18T06:16:21Z")
Which network is scheduled to show it? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1660 "2026-01-18T06:20:20Z")
CBS has the exclusive rights through 2038… which explains a lot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=84)