# The Trump Campaign Promise Walk-Back Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 12, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556 "2016-11-12T00:14:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/41 "2016-11-12T22:07:47Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> I do not have any hope that Trump supporters care about holding Trump’s feet to the fire. They made it perfectly clear that ideology doesn’t matter.
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> My hope is that they’ll turn on him for being far more interested in playing golf at Mar-a-Lago than in actually governing or dealing with the first inevitable mass school shooting, terrorist attack and/or natural disaster.

No, they won’t even do this. IOKIARDI. It’s a catastrophe and a personal insult if Obama takes one day off. Trump could golf every day, and it would be proof that he is amazing. Increasing the debt under a Democrat is an abomination. Increasing the debt MORE under a Republican is …(crickets).

Trump’s team probably has the scapegoats all lined up. The failures of the next 4 years will be the fault of The Blacks, The Gays, The Mexicans, and of course, The Media and The Socialists. Trump would have succeeded bigly without all of those bastards!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/42 "2016-11-12T22:09:43Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Is playing lots of golf worse than GW cutting brush at the ranch? Don’t recall a lot of Republican criticism of that.

No that was cool, because “cutting brush” is basically fucking up a natural ecosystem so you can make a marginal profit running cattle to further fuck up the ecosystem; Republicans love that sort of shit.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/43 "2016-11-12T22:12:53Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Pence will leave his VP position to pursue other options. Possibly in year one. Would not shock me if he’s replaced before the inauguration.

After the absurdist list of nominees for cabinet, Pence has apparently been handed control of the transition process. I believe the establishment/swamp dwellers are going to do everything they can to box Trump in as a figurehead, with the real decisions made by others. I think Pence will remain after Trump resigns. Not good, but at least… something something.

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**Author:** ![Jane\_Smythe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f04885/32.png) [@Jane\_Smythe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Smythe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/44 "2016-11-12T22:35:37Z")

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I think we all knew, those of us who supported Clinton, that Trump was just saying what his supporters wanted to hear. He doesn’t have any depth of personailty, other than to con people and feed his ego.

He will most likely back down on all the ‘promises’ he made that caused people to vote for him. They got conned. That’s the bottom line.

For example, jobs. He cannot return manufacturing to the Northeast because it is not economically feasible. The future is technology, not manufacturing. He never explained how he would return jobs to areas that have lost them, but the morons believed him anyway.

A sad, sad result for America. How stupid people can be.

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**Author:** ![Jane\_Smythe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f04885/32.png) [@Jane\_Smythe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Smythe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/45 "2016-11-12T22:38:28Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> After the absurdist list of nominees for cabinet, Pence has apparently been handed control of the transition process. I believe the establishment/swamp dwellers are going to do everything they can to box Trump in as a figurehead, with the real decisions made by others. I think Pence will remain after Trump resigns. Not good, but at least… something something.

I think it’s very possible Trump will not make it through the 4 year term. He is just not up to the job. Or he may have a heart attack. If he makes it through 4 years, they will be a disaster for him and he will not be relected. Pence is not much better, but he is a great deal smarter and took on the VP job with the hopes of going further. Don’t think he will thoough. He’s just too slimy.

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**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/46 "2016-11-12T22:39:46Z")

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“As President, I will live and work in the White House, not in Trump Tower, NYC”.

Oh wait, I guess he never promised that…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/47 "2016-11-12T22:40:54Z")

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> [@Jane\_Smythe](#):
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> For example, jobs. He cannot return manufacturing to the Northeast because it is not economically feasible. The future is technology, not manufacturing. He never explained how he would return jobs to areas that have lost them, but the morons believed him anyway.

The jobs will not return because the Liberal Media is conspiring with the Elites to use Muslims to take jobs away. This is what Trumpists will be told, and this is what they will believe.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/48 "2016-11-12T22:42:09Z")

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And notice that Trump promised jobs for the rural folks. Did he ever promise jobs for the inner cities? No, he promised “law and order.”

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/49 "2016-11-12T23:07:31Z")

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> [@NetTrekker](#):
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> “As President, I will live and work in the White House, not in Trump Tower, NYC”.
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> Oh wait, I guess he never promised that…

I take it you’ve seen [this](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a50611/trump-white-house/).

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**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/50 "2016-11-12T23:21:49Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I take it you’ve seen [this](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a50611/trump-white-house/).

The NYT piece, but yeah. He can Skype with his cabinet and congressional leaders or have them come to TT and he can Airbnb his White House quarters to tourists to make a few extra bucks.

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**Author:** ![hermann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b487fb/32.png) [@hermann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermann)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/51 "2016-11-12T23:31:44Z")

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“Pence will quit for another job”, “Trump won’t make it through 4 years”. Hahaha…these are funny when you go back and read predictions made here before the election.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/52 "2016-11-12T23:38:56Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I take it you’ve seen [this](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a50611/trump-white-house/).

> [@NetTrekker](#):
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> The NYT piece, but yeah. He can Skype with his cabinet and congressional leaders or have them come to TT and he can Airbnb his White House quarters to tourists to make a few extra bucks.

> [@](#):
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> They hope that he will stay in the White House more often once he becomes used to the transition, but for now, he’s pretty much gonna avoid it,

So Obama isn’t supposed to go on vacation because of the cost but Trump wants to fly AF One (plus SS and entourage) to NYC and back every night?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/53 "2016-11-12T23:47:52Z")

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> [@Jane\_Smythe](#):
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> …For example, jobs. He cannot return manufacturing to the Northeast because it is not economically feasible. The future is technology, not manufacturing. He never explained how he would return jobs to areas that have lost them, but the morons believed him anyway…

Whaddaya talking? Those padlocked factories, just unlock the doors, start up the machines, and hire the people! Big monied interests will simply flock to invest, because then Walmart, Target, all of them won’t buy Chinese crap. Sure, American stuff will cost a little more, but these are _patriots_!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/54 "2016-11-12T23:49:50Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Democrats will probably welcome Trump behaving more reasonably, although they will use it against him in four years, as they should. Completely misrepresenting yourself in order to get elected should not be rewarded.

This will be a mistake if true.

Every promise he makes that he walks back must be pointed out immediately. Loudly. And with praise if it benefits them. But the praise should be loud. His filling the swamp with swamp water needs to become a talking point immediately too.

If Democrats want to prevent this from being a disaster they need to praise him so he does what they want and do it loudly so his supporters know they were conned.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/55 "2016-11-12T23:56:28Z")

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Anyone seen a sign-up sheet for professional protesters? Could use a part time job, have almost fifty years experience.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/56 "2016-11-13T04:05:49Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> This will be a mistake if true.
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> Every promise he makes that he walks back must be pointed out immediately. Loudly. And with praise if it benefits them. But the praise should be loud. His filling the swamp with swamp water needs to become a talking point immediately too.
> 
> If Democrats want to prevent this from being a disaster they need to praise him so he does what they want and do it loudly so his supporters know they were conned.

I think that makes sense, much the same way Obama destroyed John Huntsman by saying how awesome he was in his administration.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/57 "2016-11-13T17:07:17Z")

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> **[Ryan: ‘We are not planning on erecting a deportation force’ | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/13/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-obamacare-deportation-force/)**
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> House Speaker Paul Ryan said Sunday despite Donald Trump’s campaign rhetoric, lawmakers are not prepared to form a deportation force to round-up and deport undocumented immigrants.

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> (CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan said Sunday despite Donald Trump’s campaign rhetoric, lawmakers are not prepared to form a deportation force to round-up and deport undocumented immigrants.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/58 "2016-11-13T18:25:31Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/13/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-obamacare-deportation-force/](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/13/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-obamacare-deportation-force/)

Sadly, that’s one of the few things that is not within the power of lawmakers. Ryan should know that. It’s quite literally the job of the Executive branch to enforce existing laws. And the laws are already in place if you choose to read them that way.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/59 "2016-11-13T19:39:27Z")

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> [@hermann](#):
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> “Pence will quit for another job”, “Trump won’t make it through 4 years”. Hahaha…these are funny when you go back and read predictions made here before the election.

Yeah, the prediction that Pence is going to quit is pretty silly. Trump quitting at least takes into account that Trump is famously undisciplined and gets bored easily and doesn’t give a shit about anything except feeding his ego.

Pence is a heartbeat away from the Presidency. If somehow Trump makes it through four years without imploding, Pence is perfectly positioned to take up Trump’s baton and play Maduro to Trump’s Chavez.

Plus, right now, he’s playing Cheney to Trump’s Bush. He’s leading the transition team. That is, picking the long list of conservative lobbyists and cronies for Trump to rubber stamp, because Trump doesn’t know any of these people and wouldn’t care even if he did. Just as promised, Pence can run policy and appointments and making decisions, and Trump can get on with making America great again.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/60 "2016-11-13T19:56:30Z")

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[Trump: 'I would rarely leave the White House](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/245884-trump-i-would-rarely-leave-the-white-house) 6/23/2105

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> Real estate mogul and reality TV star Donald Trump (R) says he wouldn’t get out much if he wins the Oval Office next year.
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> “Yes, I would live in the White House because it’s the appropriate thing to do,” he says.
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> “I would work. And I would make the country great again. That’s what you have to do.”

[Donald Trump Prepares for White House Move, but His Tower May Still Beckon](http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us/politics/trump-president.html)

> [@](#):
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> Mr. Trump, a homebody who often flew several hours late at night during the campaign so he could wake up in his own bed in Trump Tower, is talking with his advisers about how many nights a week he will spend in the White House. He has told them he would like to do what he is used to, which is spending time in New York when he can.
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> They say that Mr. Trump, who was shocked when he won the election, might spend most of the week in Washington, much like members of Congress, and return to Trump Tower or his golf course in Bedminster, N.J., or his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach on weekends.

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