# The Trump Campaign Promise Walk-Back Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556 "2016-11-12T00:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/141 "2016-11-16T21:47:35Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > …plenty of Trump supporters didn’t really expect Trump to follow through on most of this stuff. Most didn’t expect a Muslim ban, Mexican wall or immediate imprisonment of Hillary… Cite? ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/142 "2016-11-16T21:50:27Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You should point out that with a lower tax rate, his refund will be smaller. See what his reaction is. Now now, it’s not nice to make someone’s head explode just b/c they’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/143 "2016-11-16T22:24:16Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Cite? [Many Trump supporters don’t believe his wildest promises — and they don’t care](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/many-trump-supporters-dont-believe-his-wildest-promises--and-they-dont-care/2016/06/06/05005210-28c4-11e6-b989-4e5479715b54_story.html) When you think of all those GOP voters that would have preferred a different candidate, I bet a tonne of Trump voting people don’t expect much of it to literally happen. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/144 "2016-11-17T00:50:28Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > [Many Trump supporters don’t believe his wildest promises — and they don’t care](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/many-trump-supporters-dont-believe-his-wildest-promises--and-they-dont-care/2016/06/06/05005210-28c4-11e6-b989-4e5479715b54_story.html) > When you think of all those GOP voters that would have preferred a different candidate, I bet a tonne of Trump voting people don’t expect much of it to literally happen. Thanks. Oooo… I love spelling “tonne” that way. 🙂 Sounds more weighty than “ton.” OTOH can you picture [Tennessee Ernie Ford singing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0), “16 Tonnes”? Maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/145 "2016-11-17T01:11:08Z")
Haha! There’s no disputing that British/Canadian spellings are sexier. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Flying\_Rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/858c86/32.png) [@Flying\_Rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flying_Rabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/146 "2016-11-17T02:32:26Z")
I frequent a pro-Trump site to try to reach out to them. I’ve posted and asked about: How they would feel if Trump didn’t build the wall or deport all the hispanics? They seem fine with that, they defer to Trump’s infinite wisdom and are sure whatever he does will make America great again. He can do no wrong in their eyes. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/147 "2016-11-17T03:49:53Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Haha! There’s no disputing that British/Canadian spellings are sexier. 😉 Yeah, baby. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/148 "2016-11-17T12:28:33Z")
> [@Flying\_Rabbit](#): > > I frequent a pro-Trump site to try to reach out to them. I’ve posted and asked about: How they would feel if Trump didn’t build the wall or deport all the hispanics? They seem fine with that, they defer to Trump’s infinite wisdom and are sure whatever he does will make America great again. He can do no wrong in their eyes. Ask them if the manufacturing jobs Trump brings back will be good union jobs, with union wages and union benefits. Or will they be “right to work” jobs, with third world wages and no benefits? Globalism cannot be hand waved away just for the sake of making America great again. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/149 "2016-11-17T13:14:36Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Ask them if the manufacturing jobs Trump brings back will be good union jobs, with union wages and union benefits. Or will they be “right to work” jobs, with third world wages and no benefits? Globalism cannot be hand waved away just for the sake of making America great again. Some campaign promises he _might_ keep–[from November 2015](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-wages-are-too-high-2015-11): > [@](#): > > Real-estate tycoon Donald Trump argued during the Tuesday-night Fox Business Network debate that US wages are “too high” — and he didn’t back off the next morning when pressed. > > “It’s a tough position politically,” Trump admitted during an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” > > “We have to become competitive with the world. Our taxes are too high, our wages are too high. Everything is too high. We have to compete with other countries.” Since then, of course, he’s claimed that he didn’t really say that. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/150 "2016-11-17T16:30:06Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > …The problem is that nutpicking aside, plenty of Trump supporters didn’t really expect Trump to follow through on most of this stuff. Most didn’t expect a Muslim ban, Mexican wall or immediate imprisonment of Hillary. Just like they don’t expect Juicy Fruit to turn them into waterskiing babe magnets. Okay, then what are they expecting? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/151 "2016-11-17T16:48:55Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Some campaign promises he _might_ keep–[from November 2015](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-wages-are-too-high-2015-11): > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > Real-estate tycoon Donald Trump argued during the Tuesday-night Fox Business Network debate that US wages are “too high” — and he didn’t back off the next morning when pressed. > > > > “It’s a tough position politically,” Trump admitted during an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” > > > > “We have to become competitive with the world. Our taxes are too high, our wages are too high. Everything is too high. We have to compete with other countries.” > > Since then, of course, he’s claimed that he didn’t really say that. Yeah, the standard of living of the middle class and even of the poor is just too damn high! Need to lower that so the billionaires will be more comfortable. Yeah, That’s the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/152 "2016-11-17T18:26:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yeah, the standard of living of the middle class and even of the poor is just too damn high! Need to lower that so the billionaires will be more comfortable. Yeah, That’s the ticket. And if that happens then who is going to buy the products the billionaires are selling? These people don’t seem to realize that impoverishing the middle class will hurt their own bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/153 "2016-11-18T02:33:45Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > And if that happens then who is going to buy the products the billionaires are selling? Other billionaires, of course. Once you have all the money, you create your own economy that avoids inconvenient details like an unemployed middle class. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/154 "2016-11-18T02:37:59Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > And if that happens then who is going to buy the products the billionaires are selling? These people don’t seem to realize that impoverishing the middle class will hurt their own bottom line. Who’s going to babysit the kids, run the hair/nail salons, pump gas, drive the schoolbuses, repair the cars, computers, air conditioners, and clean the swimming pools, own the liquor and gun shops? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/155 "2016-11-18T02:38:54Z")
Remember when “Pappy” Bush was in the grocery store, amazed at the laser check out gadget. And you realized “This man does not go to the store. If you showed him a can of Cambell’s Cream of Mushroom Soup and told him it was $6.96, he wouldn’t even blink.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/156 "2016-11-18T02:39:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Who’s going to babysit the kids, run the hair/nail salons, pump gas, drive the schoolbuses, repair the cars, computers, air conditioners, and clean the swimming pools, own the liquor and gun shops? Art History majors trying to pay off their student loans. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/157 "2016-11-19T07:06:15Z")
During the campaign, Mr. Trump said that he would keep fighting the lawsuit against Trump University. [Today, he agreed to a settlement of about $25 million](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_UNIVERSITY_LAWSUIT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-18-21-26-21). Jury selection was to begin in 10 days. I think this is actually the first broken promise. Please correct me if I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/158 "2016-11-19T14:16:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > During the campaign, Mr. Trump said that he would keep fighting the lawsuit against Trump University. > > [Today, he agreed to a settlement of about $25 million](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_UNIVERSITY_LAWSUIT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-18-21-26-21). Jury selection was to begin in 10 days. > > I think this is actually the first broken promise. Please correct me if I’m wrong. This does confirm he was guilty so there is that. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/159 "2016-11-19T16:56:46Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > This does confirm he was guilty so there is that. As I understand it, the settlement will have no admission of guilt. Do you have a cite that shows otherwise? I’d love to see it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556/160 "2016-11-19T17:02:19Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > As I understand it, the settlement will have no admission of guilt. Do you have a cite that shows otherwise? I’d love to see it. Precedent. Trump considered Bill Clinton’s settlement with Paula Jones to imply guilt. Goose, gander, sauce. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-campaign-promise-walk-back-thread/771556.md?page=9)