# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/301 "2025-04-01T03:20:36Z")
> The Trump administration acknowledged in a court [filing](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.11.0.pdf) Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up… > > But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, was deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring him back now that Abrego Garcia is in Salvadoran custody. > **[An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/an-administrative-error-sends-a-man-to-a-salvadoran-prison/682254/)** > > The Trump administration says it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status but that courts are powerless to order his return. These deportation stories are getting crazier and crazier. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/302 "2025-04-01T03:25:34Z")
If allowed to stand, these “accidents” will become the norm. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/303 "2025-04-01T13:24:53Z")
And yet if someone at the White House was accidentally deported in the same way, I bet they’d be able to get them back real quick. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/304 "2025-04-01T14:21:30Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” Buttle, Tuttle… ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/305 "2025-04-01T15:43:53Z")
What about the American prison industry? We have people here who will gladly torture prisoners for a fraction of what El Salvador is charging us. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/306 "2025-04-01T16:38:11Z")
“courts are powerless to order his return”. One phone call from the orange cocksucker and he’d be on a plane. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/307 "2025-04-01T16:43:38Z")
I’d expect that the judge can ask them to explain to him the steps that they have taken to try and secure his release. It also feels like the government of El Salvador would have little interest in someone who wasn’t actually a member of a criminal gang. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/308 "2025-04-01T16:44:30Z")
The guy is probably dead already. Wasn’t he working against the gang he has just been locked in with? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/309 "2025-04-01T16:48:28Z")
That prison shouldn’t even be allowed to exist and we’re subsidizing it. Great. If we were a country with a moral center, this scandal and “kids in cages” would simply be intolerable. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/310 "2025-04-01T17:41:43Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > What about the American prison industry? We have people here who will gladly torture prisoners for a fraction of what El Salvador is charging us. cite that American prisons are cheaper? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/311 "2025-04-01T20:48:44Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Someone wondered in one thread if a Real ID license was sufficient to prove citizenship or at least legal residency. I don’t know the answer. It’s not. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/312 "2025-04-01T20:49:20Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > I think it does prove legal residency. Not this either. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/313 "2025-04-01T20:55:32Z")
So perhaps I should start carrying my passport card in my wallet? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/314 "2025-04-01T20:59:17Z")
It would certainly make me feel safer. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/315 "2025-04-02T01:01:38Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > We have people here who will gladly torture prisoners for a fraction of what El Salvador is charging us. I think the point is that if the camps are on U.S. soil, people might be uncomfortable and complain. It’s better to have them out of sight, out of mind. I imagine the camps will be concentrated in whatever hellhole countries bid the lowest for them. Much, much easier to disappear people without all those pesky laws and shit. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/316 "2025-04-02T01:23:21Z")
Administration members like Kristi Noem seemed to delight in how brutal that prison was. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/317 "2025-04-02T01:50:32Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I think the point is that if the camps are on U.S. soil, people might be uncomfortable and complain. It’s better to have them out of sight, out of mind. It’s so bad that I can hardly blame you for that. But they do want the existence of off-shore horror prisons to be kept in mind. I never post articles saying that the administration is fascist, or have a lookist aspect, but this was just so bad and true: [Kristi Noem and fascism’s sadistic eroticization of power](https://slowcivilwar.substack.com/p/thats-bait?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=110752&post_id=160008322&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=brgr&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/318 "2025-04-02T03:00:34Z")
Here’s a good Bulwark article about the use of tattoos in identifying gang members. Apparently, there is confusion around a particular tattoo….._Hasta La Muerte_ (until death) is a slogan of MS13 and other gangs - this is a tattoo that gang members frequently sport. But there is a popular reggaeton artist - Anuel AA, a Trump supporter with millions of followers - that has popularized the phrase _Real Hasta La Muerte_ (Real Until Death, also the title of one of his albums). This tattoo is popular amongst his fans and followers. Apparently the deporters have a history of confusing the two. Other tattoos allegedly associated with these gangs are “roses and predatory felines”, leading me to wonder if there are any face-eating leopard tattoos in the mix. > **[Trump’s Deportations Rely on Tattoos—It’s Bullshit.](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-deportations-tattoos-bullshit-anuel-aa-dhs-ice)** > > It turns out tattoos inspired by a reggaeton artist who endorsed Trump are also a marker of gang involvement. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/319 "2025-04-02T14:40:05Z")
[That’s some catch, that Catch 22.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-is-asking-the-supreme-court-to-let-him-have-black-sites/ar-AA1C7H6D) > The Trump administration inadvertently revealed on Monday that it is attempting to trap Venezuelan migrants in a catch-22 that would effectively block them from challenging their deportation and detention in an El Salvador prison. ‘You can only challenge your detention in a foreign prison from within the United States. You’ll need to challenge your detention so that you can be returned to the United States, where you will then be able to challenge your detention.’ ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/320 "2025-04-02T17:54:27Z")
Well, that ad Kristi “dog killer” Noem is in does say “you will NEVER return”. Guess we know the details of that now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=17)