# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/341 "2025-04-05T03:26:54Z")
Courts schmorts, the only reason he’s not on a plane is because that fucking trump won’t make the phone call. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/342 "2025-04-05T14:29:17Z")
There are some countries that international tourists should not visit. North Korea comes to mind. And which other countries? > **[I was a British tourist trying to leave America. Then I was detained,...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/i-was-a-british-tourist-trying-to-leave-america-then-i-was-detained-shackled-and-sent-to-an-immigration-detention-centre)** > > Graphic artist Rebecca Burke was on the trip of a lifetime. But as she tried to leave the US she was stopped, interrogated and branded an illegal alien by ICE. Now back home, she tells others thinking of going to Trump’s America: don’t do it ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/343 "2025-04-05T15:15:29Z")
Dear. God. In. Heaven. 😱 Everyone needs to read the Guardian article that you linked. Absolutely chilling. I wonder if the Canadian border people would have refused her entry if they had known what the American officials were going to do to her? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/344 "2025-04-05T15:32:55Z")
On a positive note, Americans seeking to expatriate to other countries may very well have a credible claim as asylum-seekers! ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/345 "2025-04-05T15:50:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Dear. God. In. Heaven. 😱 > > Everyone needs to read the Guardian article that you linked. Absolutely chilling. > > I wonder if the Canadian border people would have refused her entry if they had known what the American officials were going to do to her? My reaction is the same as yours. What in the ever loving hell is going on? Chilling is an apt description. Stuff like this even gives me pause to travel out of the country as a US citizen. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/346 "2025-04-05T16:33:12Z")
> [@Ellecram](#): > > What in the ever loving hell is going on? The United States is closed. Foreigners are not welcome. Tourist dollars are not welcome. Message received. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/347 "2025-04-05T16:49:26Z")
Also: _cruelty is the point_ ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/348 "2025-04-05T17:16:22Z")
Well another very good reason could be that he’s already dead. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/349 "2025-04-05T18:41:08Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > It’s not a legal nicety, it’s a real limitation on what U.S. courts can and cannot do I would argue in this case that El Salvador is clearly and unequivocally acting as an agent of the US government. This petson was not imprisoned for crimes committed in El Salvador or offenses against the state of El Salvador. He wasn’t arrested or detained in El Salvador and has never had a case adjudicated in El Salvador. The only reason he’s in an El Salvadoran prison is that the government of the US is paying El Salvador to keep him there. El Salvador is their agent, they’re being paid and it’s not plausible to believe that the US has no agency in this matter. My understanding is that even though the man was “deportable”, he was still in the US legally and only became deportable when his immigration status changed. But deportation and incarceration are not the same thing, only one of those things deprives a person of their liberty. If he was deported after his status changed, I probably would not personally agree with the decision but I wouldn’t think it was a gross miscarriage of justice or anything. But to deprive an innocent person of their life or liberty, without trial, without due process, especially when there is no evidence that this person ever committed a crime, not even the crime of entering the US illegally is a gross miscarriage of justice that should outrage every American citizen…..because next time it might be you. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/350 "2025-04-05T18:58:17Z")
Missed edit window :::: Anyine comparing this case to that of Britney Griner is way off base, no matter how politically motivated her incarceration might have been, she did travel to a foreign country of her own free will and got arrested for breaking the laws of that country. The only way this would be comparable to the man being unlawfully detained in El Salvador would be if someone in the US government decided they didn’t like Britney Griner, so they forced her on a plane to Russia and paid them to hold her prisoner. ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/351 "2025-04-05T19:40:22Z")
37 captured in Bellingham Wa: > **[ICE arrests 37 people at Bellingham, WA roofing company](https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/ice-arrests-37-people-bellingham)** > > ICE agents arrested 37 people at a Bellingham roofing business on Wednesday, claiming they had falsified immigration and work documents. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/352 "2025-04-05T21:56:32Z")
> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#): > > 37 captured in Bellingham Wa: This is local to us. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/353 "2025-04-05T23:35:17Z")
From CNN: > The Justice Department has placed on administrative leave a government immigration lawyer who in court this week expressed frustration at not being able to answer key questions from a judge over a mistaken deportation case, according to two people familiar with the matter. > > Erez Reuveni argued the government’s case in the deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, who the government has said was sent to his native El Salvador due to a clerical error, despite a court order that he not be deported. > > Reuveni said in court of the government’s position: “Our only arguments are jurisdictional. … He should not have been sent to El Salvador.” > > Asked why the US couldn’t simply ask for Abrego Garcia’s return, Reuveni said, “The first thing I did when I got this case on my desk is ask my clients the same question,” adding that he did not get a direct answer. > > Attorney General Pam Bondi took issue with how Reuveni handled the case in court. > > “At my direction, every Department of Justice attorney is required to zealously advocate on behalf of the United States. Any attorney who fails to abide by this direction will face consequences,” she said in a statement to CNN. > > Reuveni didn’t respond to a request for comment. On LinkedIn five months ago, he posted that he had been promoted to a new position as acting deputy director at the Office of Immigration Litigation. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/354 "2025-04-05T23:49:04Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > “At my direction, every Department of Justice attorney is required to zealously advocate on behalf of the United States. Bitch, that’s what he did. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/355 "2025-04-06T03:53:26Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Bitch, that’s what he did. **Moderating:** Gendered insults, even if directed at an off-board figure, are not a good idea, especially in P&E. Next time, insult them based on what they _did_, not what they _are_. _This is just a guidance, not a warning. Nothing on your permanent record._ ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/356 "2025-04-06T16:36:01Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I wonder if the Canadian border people would have refused her entry if they had known what the American officials were going to do to her? Though I don’t know what was going through the minds of the Canadian border patrol, as a Canadian I am truly disgusted by what they did. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/357 "2025-04-07T13:31:19Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I wonder if the Canadian border people would have refused her entry if they had known what the American officials were going to do to her? Not their problem. Also, in my experience, Canada is stickier about any possible work you might be doing there on a tourist visa than any other country I’ve ever entered. I’ve been quizzed several times but Canadian border authorities. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/358 "2025-04-07T13:59:15Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > This is a bad situation, but I agree that the courts don’t and shouldn’t have the power to order the government to ask another country to repatriate a prisoner. That’s not really what the court is up to. The court said not to deport this person and the government violated that order. The court is just trying to enforce its order, which just happens to involve asking another country to repatriate a prisoner. The court isn’t saying it’s within its power to order another country to do something. Its saying, hey, administration, I ordered you not to do something, but you did it anyway. Fix that. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/359 "2025-04-07T14:18:42Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > > [@bordelond](#): > > > > This is difficult to Google because today’s events swamp the search results. Were any of the “some sources” known to be left-learning sources? I’d be wary of anything from Fox, NewsMax, known right-wing YouTubers or bloggers, etc. > > I’m very weary of where I was reading that a judge had ordered deportation, eg. Newsweek. But even more left-leaning sources kind of dance around the issue. Thank you for addressing this. FWIW, the current version of Newsweek – both print and online – has no connection with the Newsweek print periodical that was part of the _Washington Post_’s umbrella until 2010. It’s not right-leaning like, say, Fox News … but Newsweek has kind of a pot-stirring center-right stance these days (especially online). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/360 "2025-04-07T15:37:06Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > The court isn’t saying it’s within its power to order another country to do something. Its saying, hey, administration, I ordered you not to do something, but you did it anyway. Fix that. What are the circumstances under which El Salvador allowed these planes to land, the detainees to disembark and then be placed in this prison? Presumably there was an agreement between El Salvador and the United States. It’s ridiculous for the administration to claim now that they have no authority to do anything in El Salvador. They can go right back to the same people they spoke with earlier and ask for that guy to be returned. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=19)