# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/361 "2025-04-07T15:40:11Z")
Trump asking SCOTUS to ensure he’s not accountable for his mistakes: > **[Trump asks Supreme Court to block order requiring US to bring back man...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/07/politics/supreme-court-el-salvador-abrego-garcia/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump’s administration urged the Supreme Court on Monday to block a lower court order requiring officials to bring a man who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador back to Maryland. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/362 "2025-04-07T16:31:03Z")
What with all the different stories of people being deported who shouldn’t be, I had missed that this guy was a Salvadoran national. That probably actually DOES mean that the US can’t do much at this point. Which only makes the situation more tragic, and the actions leading up to it more evil. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/363 "2025-04-07T16:32:48Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > in my experience, Canada is stickier about any possible work you might be doing there on a tourist visa than any other country I’ve ever entered. I’ve been quizzed several times but Canadian border authorities. Asking about the nature of your business is perfectly routine. If you were quizzed more closely than usual, the nature of your trip might have given the officer reason to believe you might be going to Canada to do work. As a US resident, you wouldn’t be getting those kinds of questions on returning to the US, but I would and I have. In fact, on one occasion I was sent to secondary inspection by a US immigration agent on a trip to a perfectly routine business meeting simply because the agent didn’t understand – or had misunderstood – who I was working for. The situation was so simple and routine that the agent conducting the secondary interview was perplexed as to why I had been sent there. I think it was because I had gone into too much detail about the different consulting groups that were involved and apparently blew the agent’s little brain. So no, I don’t think Canadian immigration is particularly strict. I believe that both US and Canadian border agents may, at their discretion, admit visitors who are doing unpaid work, like for a charity. It’s the UK that tends to be the strictest about that kind of thing, in my experience. It’s also the place where the passport stamp carries an explicit prohibition against visitors accessing NHS health services. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/364 "2025-04-07T16:35:54Z")
I didn’t mean to imply that Canada is stricter than the US. As you point out, i wouldn’t have direct knowledge of the US. But I’ve traveled to a great many other countries, and Canada has asked me more questions than all the others combined. The runner up is Bermuda, but i entered on an expired passport (legal at the time) and i think that led to them giving me a little extra scrutiny. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/365 "2025-04-07T17:14:41Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Trump asking SCOTUS to ensure he’s not accountable for his mistakes: > > [https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/07/politics/supreme-court-el-salvador-abrego-garcia/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/07/politics/supreme-court-el-salvador-abrego-garcia/index.html) I wanted to mention this appeal to SCOTUS comes after the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously rejected the Trump Admin argument that the District Court order should be blocked. > The United States Government has no legal authority to snatch a person who is lawfully present in the United States off the street and remove him from the country without due process. The Government’s contention otherwise, and its argument that the federal courts are powerless to intervene, are unconscionable. I’m not sure why but the only references I am seeing to the Appeals court decision seem to be buried in articles about the appeal to SCOTUS. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/366 "2025-04-07T17:24:33Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I’m not sure why but the only references I am seeing to the Appeals court decision seem to be buried in articles about the appeal to SCOTUS. Could be because of the inverted timeline: The Trump administration asked for the Supreme Court’s involvement shortly BEFORE the Appeals Court decision came down. Per **DaveNRockies** ’ CNN link: > The request to the Supreme Court came minutes before a[ruling from the 4th US Circuit Court of Appeals denying DOJ’s request](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25881159-opinion-25-1345/) to lift the lower-court order. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/367 "2025-04-07T17:29:49Z")
The Orange Felon has been having a hard time with the lower courts in the past few years. I guess he considers the Supreme Court to be his bestest buddies who owe him big time. It will be interesting to see if their allegiance is to Trump or to the Constitution, because it can’t be both. I know how Thomas and Alito will vote. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/368 "2025-04-07T23:40:54Z")
Looks like his SCOTUS buddies helped him out again: > **[Supreme Court allows Trump to deport Venezuelans under wartime law, but only...](https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-trump-deportations-el-salvador-9988b667199e1b02fc0a6a83570225c1)** > > The Supreme Court is allowing the Trump administration to use an 18th century wartime law to deport Venezuelan migrants, but says they must get a court hearing before they are taken from the United States. I really doubt these court hearings they must have in Texas to be fair. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/369 "2025-04-08T10:38:39Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Newsweek has kind of a pot-stirring center-right stance these days (especially online). 🎶_Whoa, in a couple of days they come and take me away_ _But the press let the story leak_ _And when the radical priest_ _Come to get me released_ _We was all on the cover of Newsweek_ 🎶 Until just now when I looked to paste the stanza I thought it was _radical grease_. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/370 "2025-04-08T12:21:32Z")
If some men in masks with no identification attack you, are you within your rights to blow them away? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/371 "2025-04-08T12:52:41Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I really doubt these court hearings they must have in Texas to be fair. Would they have allowed the deportation of the guy with a legal order to stay in the US? I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/372 "2025-04-08T23:16:25Z")
[https://www.axios.com/2025/04/08/immigration-ice-gangs-deport-decisions](https://www.axios.com/2025/04/08/immigration-ice-gangs-deport-decisions) > “People who are enemies of the United States don’t have the same level [of] due process [as in] the normal process,” ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/373 "2025-04-08T23:22:59Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > If some men in masks with no identification attack you, are you within your rights to blow them away? I could see such a thing resulting in a hung jury but that means the individual who defended themselves would still be arrested for murder and put on trial. This of course assumes that the individual is able to defend themselves against one undercover officer successfully without incurring immediate, lethal retaliation from any others that would also be there. So, to answer your question, theoretically yes but I wouldn’t recommend it. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/374 "2025-04-08T23:27:35Z")
> [@](#): > > She noted that when the Alien Enemies Act was used against people of Japanese, German and Italian descent during World War II, there was a hearing process for the accused. Also, I do not believe there was the pressure of [an almost impossible to meet arrest quota](https://www.latintimes.com/trump-crackdown-deportation-targets-ice-arrests-falls-short-578904). ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/375 "2025-04-09T07:10:05Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > pressure of [an almost impossible to meet arrest quota](https://www.latintimes.com/trump-crackdown-deportation-targets-ice-arrests-falls-short-578904). Just like [Stalin’s NKVD](https://serious-science.org/terror-by-quota-1561) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/376 "2025-04-09T19:58:16Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Every day I check this thread…and every day I am highly disappointed to find out that Trump has not yet been deported. Me, too. “ **The Trump deportation news thread** ” should be about deporting Trump. I keep hoping that the citizenship changes he’s proposing could be applied to him. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/377 "2025-04-10T10:36:20Z")
Words fail me: > **[Ice director wants to run deportations like ‘Amazon Prime for human beings’](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/09/ice-todd-lyons-deporation-amazon?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other)** > > Todd Lyons said he wanted US immigration agency to be ‘like a business’ in its deportation process ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/378 "2025-04-10T10:39:44Z")
> The Ice director also said that he has been working with Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” (Doge) for access to social security numbers to look for “voter fraud”. Nice to see the new internal police announce itself. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/379 "2025-04-10T11:50:37Z")
Nice. So they want to treat human beings like products in a business line that get shipped around as efficiently as possible. Can’t let inefficiency get in the way of finding a final solution to these immigration problems. Maybe can start keeping detailed records, transport lists, that sort of thing. Sounds familiar… > **[Holocaust trains](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_trains)** > > Holocaust trains were railway transports run by the Deutsche Reichsbahn and other European railways under the control of Nazi Germany and its allies, for the purpose of forcible deportation of the Jews, as well as other victims of the Holocaust, to the Nazi concentration, forced labour, and extermination camps. > The speed at which people targeted in the "Final Solution" could be exterminated was dependent on two factors: the capacity of the death camps to gas the victims and quickly dispose of ... ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/380 "2025-04-10T11:52:35Z")
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