# The Trump deportation news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/441 "2025-04-14T18:51:58Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> A state prosecutor needs to start charging ICE agents with kidnapping. You aren’t supposed to grab people without proper documentation. &nbsp;

Yes, they should be charged. And prosecutors doing the charging would be fired as fast as the commander of the Greenland base who mildly disagreed with Vance. This is what living under tyranny is about.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/442 "2025-04-14T18:52:46Z")

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This is great PR for Trump and ICE. The terror and fear this is causing in 100% desired. If this wasn’t unintentional then it was genius.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/443 "2025-04-14T19:21:00Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Yes, they should be charged. And prosecutors doing the charging would be fired as fast as the commander of the Greenland base who mildly disagreed with Vance.

Trump can’t fire state prosecutors.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/444 "2025-04-14T19:29:54Z")

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And if they don’t, we will…what?

Did I actually say “if”? Sorry about that.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/445 "2025-04-14T19:30:38Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Trump can’t fire state prosecutors.

Can he arbitrarily cut off federal funding for any state program he feels like cutting off?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/446 "2025-04-14T19:35:52Z")

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Yes. But state prosecutors aren’t funded by the feds.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/447 "2025-04-14T19:48:21Z")

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So SCOTUS said “bring him back”?? Or “just TRY to bring him back?”

Does this resounding NO mean “k we tried they said no?” The end?

Are we squarely in a constitutional crisis yet or are we still being mealymouthed about the language for a little bit longer…?

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/448 "2025-04-14T22:01:50Z")

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> [@Dr.Colossus](#):
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> So SCOTUS said “bring him back”?? Or “just TRY to bring him back?”

They said “facilitate” but felt “effectuate” unclear.

This has the potential to become a standoff between Trump and the Supremes. Will be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/449 "2025-04-14T22:31:57Z")

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What do you mean by “the potential to become” here? As far as I can see, the Supreme Court issued a directive, and the Executive has said “no.”

I don’t think “well, they talked to the Salvadoran president, but he said no” is a serious argument that the Executive Branch is complying with what they were ordered to do.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/450 "2025-04-14T22:58:15Z")

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The potential has been there pretty much from day 1. But up to now, I have not seen what seemed clear defiance of a SCt order. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/451 "2025-04-14T23:05:14Z")

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It’s a game to Trump and the rest of the fascists.  
And the Supreme Court has given themselves enough of a fig-leaf to say “Oh well, they tried, next case”

Gift article from the Atlantic sums it up nicely.

> **[The Constitutional Crisis Is Here](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/bukele-trump-court-order/682432/?gift=3gON71alh0ha0Y9JOSRE8isZD--Hn8rKweFmq1yb1Co&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)**
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> Trump’s administration is only pretending to comply with the Supreme Court on the matter of a Maryland man it deported erroneously.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/452 "2025-04-14T23:08:08Z")

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> The bad faith of this exchange is obvious. Bukele has the power to free Abrego Garcia and send him back to the U.S. on an American plane without “smuggling” anyone or anything. But neither side wants that outcome, and so they are both pretending that it’s the other’s responsibility. It’s a game both sides are in on.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/453 "2025-04-14T23:09:49Z")

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Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) says that if Garcia isn’t in the US by Wednesday, then he’s going to El Salvador.

> **[Maryland Sen. Van Hollen requests meeting with Salvadoran president to...](https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/van-hollen-el-salvador-abrego-garcia-deportation/)**
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> In a letter, Sen. Chris Van Hollen requested a meeting with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele to discuss the return of Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported last month.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/454 "2025-04-15T01:25:38Z")

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Odds Van Hollen meets a fate similar to Rep. Leo Ryan (D) CA?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/455 "2025-04-15T01:26:33Z")

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I had the same thought. Hopefully very low.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/456 "2025-04-15T01:39:38Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) says that if Garcia isn’t in the US by Wednesday, then he’s going to El Salvador.

This. This is the kind of thing we should be reading about daily. Assuming this cat is serious, I don’t think it’s too hyperbolic to say he’s risking his life (actual and political) and I wish the rest of the Dems in congress would step up and do the same. Show the world that you don’t put money or your political career above saving our democracy.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/457 "2025-04-15T01:41:20Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I can’t afford to visit the USA, but if I could, I would not.

Sad to say that if you could afford and wanted to I’d still advise you not to do so at this time. I don’t think it’s safe anymore.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/458 "2025-04-15T01:45:20Z")

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> [@Ellecram](#):
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> Should everyone be concerned now?

Yes, absolutely, everyone should be concerned now.

We actually passed that point weeks ago but it’s getting more and more obvious.

They are coming first for the trans people and immigrants, but in the end everyone is on The List.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/459 "2025-04-15T02:00:43Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> This is the kind of thing we should be reading about daily. Assuming this cat is serious, I don’t think it’s too hyperbolic to say he’s risking his life (actual and political) and I wish the rest of the Dems in congress would step up and do the same.

It’s definitely an improvement over Schumer’s habit of waiting 48 hours for a focus group to tell him what his opinion is, then tweeting “Somebody should DO SOMETHING!” before going back to explaining why he voted for Trump’s agenda yet again.

The leadership has no fight in them, so it’s up to the back bench to do the heavy lifting, it seems.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/460 "2025-04-15T02:05:19Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Deportation of American citizens begins. (Allegedly).
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> [https://i.ibb.co/LhQM89Q3/491064911-1267196961439646-2564527445824705233-n.jpg](https://i.ibb.co/LhQM89Q3/491064911-1267196961439646-2564527445824705233-n.jpg)

The allegation is true. I believe this is a similar case:

[DHS told her to leave the country. She’s a citizen — and an immigration attorney](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/citizen-gets-dhs-letter-leave-country-self-deportation-rcna201118)

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> A senior Department of Homeland Security official told NBC10 Boston that “notices may have been sent to unintended recipients” and will address issues on a case-by-case basis.

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