# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/481 "2025-04-16T15:09:30Z")
I was just talking about that this morning: isn’t Trump just offshoring these people in the same way – and for much the same reasons – as American companies offshored industries for decades? Is that _really_ the way to Make America Great Again? It seems so … Idunno … logically inconsistent. [Yeah. I make myself chuckle] ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/482 "2025-04-16T15:20:54Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > **[Statements](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZSIRALtok)** like the one from White House Press Secretary, Karoline Leavitt … should hurt the administration [about Kilmar Abrego Garcia]: > > > There is never going to be a world in which this is an individual who’s going to live a peaceful life in Maryland. Yup, that struck me, too, as especially awful, the kind of thing that will turn some folks off. (It may even give Rubio pause, since he’s, you know, the child of Cuban refugees.) ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/483 "2025-04-16T15:40:21Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Not that interesting, as when it happens, I don’t expect much if any pushback. He’s gradually acclimating people so they will accept it when it happens. Interesting from a legal perspective, because actions - not just court decisions - tend to have precedential effect. So folk might be bored into servitude. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/484 "2025-04-16T15:49:31Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Yeah. I make myself chuckle I am jealous of your ability to laugh at this stuff. I’m just filled with dread. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/485 "2025-04-16T15:52:04Z")
Haw haw. Cubans don’t give a shit about some brown kid from Venezuela or El Salvador. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/486 "2025-04-16T16:40:37Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > (Though perhaps the best way to fight his suggestion that violent US citizen criminals be deported to El Salvador prison is to argue against exporting jobs in the prison-industrial complex. Why pay El Salvador when we have prison guards in the United States willing and able to house and abuse prisoners?) I’m also wondering why we’re deporting ANY illegal immigrants when for-profit detention centers are being re-opened across the country. [https://lailluminator.com/2025/04/14/immigration-detention/](https://lailluminator.com/2025/04/14/immigration-detention/) > Private immigration detention is growing fast — again. The Trump administration is rapidly expanding immigration detention through billion-dollar contracts with private prison companies, including GEO Group and CoreCivic. Dozens of facilities may reopen across at least eight states, including places with long histories of abuse. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/487 "2025-04-16T17:05:59Z")
Curiouser and curiouser: > **[Judge finds cause to hold Trump administration in criminal contempt over...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/judge-finds-probable-cause-hold-trump-administration-contempt-deportat-rcna201569)** > > The Trump administration used a rarely used wartime law to deport people the administration claimed were members of a Venezuelan gang. > [@](#): > > A federal judge said in an order Wednesday that he has found probable cause to hold the Trump administration in criminal contempt over the deportation flights that it sent to El Salvador. > > U.S. District Judge James Boasberg found "the Government’s actions on that day demonstrate a willful disregard for its Order, sufficient for the Court to conclude that probable cause exists to find the Government in criminal contempt.” > > “The Court does not reach such conclusion lightly or hastily; indeed, it has given Defendants ample opportunity to rectify or explain their actions. None of their responses has been satisfactory,” the judge wrote. Now, what. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/488 "2025-04-16T17:34:41Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Now, what. Just put Trump in goddamn prison. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/489 "2025-04-16T17:52:31Z")
Good point. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/490 "2025-04-16T17:52:39Z")
Has this been cited already: If it has, sorry. Hard to keep up with all the atrocities. > # ‘Homegrowns are next’: Trump hopes to deport and jail U.S. citizens abroad > > [Trump hopes to deport and jail U.S. citizens abroad : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2025/04/16/nx-s1-5366178/trump-deport-jail-u-s-citizens-homegrowns-el-salvador) > > President Trump says his administration is actively exploring a proposal to detain U.S. citizens and send them to prisons in El Salvador. … > > “The homegrowns are next, the homegrowns. You’ve got to build about five more places,” Trump said to Bukele, an apparent reference to prison space that would be needed in El Salvador to house U.S. citizens. > > El Salvador is already holding hundreds of people in a maximum-security prison, flown from the U.S. in recent weeks after being detained for allegedly lacking legal status or having gang affiliations. > > … > > The proposal has drawn condemnation from legal scholars across the political spectrum, who said it would represent an unprecedented encroachment on the civil liberties of U.S. citizens. > > … > > “It’s obviously unconstitutional, obviously illegal. There’s no authority in any U.S. law to deport U.S. citizens and certainly not to imprison them in a foreign country,” said David Bier at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank based in Washington, D.C. > > “The problem of course is [Trump] already has illegally deported hundreds of people by just not giving the courts an opportunity to stop him,” Bier added. “I think that’s the **real fear now** that he is going to try to evade judicial review of deportations of U.S. citizens.” My bold. Duh. Ya think? 🤓 > … > NPR contacted three prominent conservative legal scholars. All declined to comment. We also contacted three conservative legal think-tanks. One declined to comment, two others didn’t respond. > > NPR could also find no instances of GOP lawmakers in the House or Senate commenting on the idea. > > Bier, at the Cato Institute, said he has been “shocked” by the lack of pushback against Trump’s proposal from Republican leaders and members of the conservative legal movement. > … ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/491 "2025-04-16T18:37:50Z")
mr garcia was living a peaceful life in maryland, until trump decided he shouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/492 "2025-04-16T19:19:46Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > (It may even give Rubio pause, since he’s, you know, the child of Cuban refugees.) No. This is exactly and precisely when Rubio is coming down so hard on other immigrants. There’s a psychology to this that I don’t pretend to understand, but he’s building a conceptual wall between himself and his situation, vs the bad people. Trump is also the child of an immigrant. Not a refugee, but certainly an economic migrant. I imagine in his mind there’s a big racial distinction between good immigrants and bad immigrants, but I don’t pretend to understand what goes on in his head. They’re all of them dangerous, damaged people. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/493 "2025-04-16T20:10:10Z")
> **[Scott MacFarlane (@macfarlanenews.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/macfarlanenews.bsky.social/post/3lmx6wnmea22a)** > > Speaking now from El Salvador, Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) says he was denied access to Kilmar Abrego Garcia by El Salvador leaders. And was denied a phone call to him > > Van Hollen: "The Trump Administration is lying about Abrego Garcia" > **[Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lmxakux4hs2u)** > > Per @vanhollen.senate.gov's press conference from El Salvador, "The Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador to keep Garcia at CECOT." ---
**Author:** ![themapleleaf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/themapleleaf/32/14349_2.png) [@themapleleaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themapleleaf)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/494 "2025-04-16T20:14:50Z")
Trump’s administration seems adamant not to allow Garcia to return, for the time being at the risk of contempt of court. One more reason why I am proud to bear the name of Canadian. Subsection 6(1) of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms explicitly states that “Every citizen of Canada has the right to **enter, remain in** and leave Canada.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/495 "2025-04-16T20:21:08Z")
> [@themapleleaf](#): > > One more reason why I am proud to bear the name of Canadian. Subsection 6(1) of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms explicitly states that “Every citizen of Canada has the right to **enter, remain in** and leave Canada.” Garcia wasn’t a citizen, so, I assume, if he had been in Canada he has no rights under 6(1). Very few rights in the Constitution are limited to citizens. Garcia’s Constitutional rights were violated. ---
**Author:** ![themapleleaf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/themapleleaf/32/14349_2.png) [@themapleleaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/themapleleaf)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/496 "2025-04-16T20:30:24Z")
Did I mix him up with someone else? Wasn’t at least one US citizen deported to El Salvador? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/497 "2025-04-16T20:37:01Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > (Though perhaps the best way to fight his suggestion that violent US citizen criminals be deported to El Salvador prison is to argue against exporting jobs in the prison-industrial complex. Why pay El Salvador when we have prison guards in the United States willing and able to house and abuse prisoners?) Hey, why not do both? There’s plenty of Those People he’d be happy to lock up and throw away the key. And he can always pay for it with the billions he’s withholding from the universities that don’t kowtow to him, and the USAID shutdown, and all the other stuff he’s slashed from government payouts. ETA: > [@themapleleaf](#): > > Trump’s administration seems adamant not to allow Garcia to return, for the time being at the risk of contempt of court. I have the sinking feeling they don’t want to admit he’s already dead. Hoping like hell I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/498 "2025-04-16T20:45:31Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I have the sinking feeling they don’t want to admit he’s already dead. I wonder if Maryland could charge federal officials with manslaughter. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/499 "2025-04-16T20:46:16Z")
They like to _pretend_ that they’re cutting vast amounts from the federal budget by reducing money going to the universities, US AID, and all of those cutbacks in staffing. But I’ll bet that only a tiny fraction of the overall federal budget is reduced. Meanwhile Trump is talking about increasing military spending to a trillion dollars next year. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/500 "2025-04-16T21:09:59Z")
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