# The Trump deportation news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/521 "2025-04-18T09:07:17Z")

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Court of Appeals strikes down the government’s appeal of the district judge’s order in the Garcia case. Reagan-appointed J. Harvie Wilkinson wrote for the unanimous opinion.

> “It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all,” Wilkinson wrote.
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> “The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order,” he continued. “Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.”

[https://thehill.com/homenews/5254406-abrego-garcia-appeals-court-order/](https://thehill.com/homenews/5254406-abrego-garcia-appeals-court-order/)

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/522 "2025-04-18T11:23:26Z")

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Boy - this Bukele really seems quite a piece of work.

Some good language in that appeals decision. Now teed up for the Supremes!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/523 "2025-04-18T11:43:55Z")

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Bottom line: no court, up to and including the Supreme Court of the US, can make trump do anything. “Contempt of court” to him is just so much white _(excuse the expression)_ noise. He might throw an underling or two under the bus, but there will be no tire tracks on him.

The Atlantic today (gift link):

> **[What Recourse Does the Supreme Court Actually Have?](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/supreme-court-trump-contempt/682494/?gift=QgO_LHw-skz7EqtMG0lcxvVAgg6AqG0pnb-Dxiygrzo&utm_source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social)**
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> As the Trump administration talks itself into refusing to comply with judicial orders, federal judges are moving closer to deploying the most powerful tool they have: contempt of court.

Lots of blahblahblah, ending here:

> Ultimately, asking what would happen in such a circumstance is like consulting the Monopoly rulebook for instructions about what to do if somebody flips over the board. At that point, we are playing a different game.

This metaphor was thrown around on this very board during trump 1.0, along the lines of, _“trump doesn’t play by the rules–he just flips the table over and all the cards and chips go flying.”_

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/524 "2025-04-18T12:07:50Z")

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> **[U.S.-born American citizen under ICE hold in Florida after driving from Georgia](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800)**
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> Juan Carlos Gomez-Lopez is being held even though a county judge found his birth certificate “authentic” and said there wasn’t reason to consider him an “illegal alien.”

Of course this was obviously going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/525 "2025-04-18T12:13:51Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> Kilmar Garcia confirmed alive by Senator Van Hollen!  
> [@vanhollen.senate.gov on Bluesky](https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3ln2gcpf6js2m)

Perhaps - just perhaps - there is some recognition this man is not a dangerous criminal and he’s being treated humanely.

I fear it more likely he was cleaned up and clothed for a photo-op.

I mean, if there ARE some people being sent to this prison who aren’t hyper-dangerous criminals then holding them in less harsh conditions may well save El Salvador money… if El Salvador is doing this strictly for profit. We already know some in the US are doing this for the cruelty.

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Re my last post, it turns out that the Salvadoran authorities had Garcia meet with the Senator in a hotel, and have, according to Bukele, returned him to the horror prison — presumably back in the white uniform.

Yeah, photo-op.

I still hope he’s going to be OK in the end.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/526 "2025-04-18T12:15:45Z")

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Luckily it looks like he did get released

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/527 "2025-04-18T12:50:33Z")

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Re Abrego Garcia, remember there are hundreds of others:

[U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-records-show-about-migrants-sent-to-salvadoran-prison-60-minutes-transcript/#)

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> Our client, who was in the middle of seeking asylum, just disappeared. One day he was there, and the next day we’re supposed to have court, and he wasn’t brought to court.
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> . . .
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> But Andry [Hernandez Romero] did appear in photos taken by Time magazine photographer [Philip Holsinger](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/photojournalist-witnesses-venezuelan-migrants-arrival-in-el-salvador-60-minutes/), who was there when the Venezuelans arrived at CECOT.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/528 "2025-04-18T13:06:26Z")

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Thing are just going so well …

> A doctor born in the United States says she received an email from federal immigration authorities demanding that she leave the country immediately.
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> Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling her, “It is time for you to leave the United States."

> **[American doctor receives email from immigration officials telling her to...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-email-immigration-leave-country-rcna201698)**
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> Dr. Lisa Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/529 "2025-04-18T13:12:33Z")

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Ah.

Good.

Trump _finally_ gets around to addressing health care.

/s

:rolleyes:

🤮

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/530 "2025-04-18T14:23:56Z")

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[Politico: Conservative judge blasts Trump administration’s ‘shocking’ conduct in Abrego Garcia case  
 ](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/17/abrego-garcia-appeal-wilkinson-00298063)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/531 "2025-04-18T17:24:43Z")

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Psst…see Post #521…

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/532 "2025-04-18T17:32:33Z")

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Trump White House? Pure class:

> <https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1913241658579440126>

No matter what you thought of his policies, Obama was truly a role model, a husband, a father, a gentleman, and a statesman. No matter what you think of _his_ policies, Trump is truly just an awful human being.

Rarely a week goes by where Donald J. Trump _isn’t_ plumbing the depths of ignorance and depravity among his cult followers, playing on their innumerable and profound moral failings for his own personal gain.

There is no bottom with this **[man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue)**.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/533 "2025-04-18T17:39:03Z")

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Trash.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/534 "2025-04-18T17:54:17Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> It’s easier just to militarize borderland.

I’m probably way, way behind, but what on earth justifies military force on the populance?

Did no one recall the Branch Davidians Waco disaster? And that was home-grown “yee-hah, fuck yeah” American terrorism, met with an amoured breaching vehicle, and plenty of what I would describe as paramilitary forces.

It ended badly.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/535 "2025-04-18T18:53:07Z")

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They’ll be slaughtering brown foreigners, so it’s all good.

/s

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/536 "2025-04-18T18:58:33Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Rarely a **week** goes by where Donald J. Trump _isn’t_ plumbing the depths of ignorance and depravity among his cult followers

You mean **hour**.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/537 "2025-04-18T19:59:00Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> There is no bottom with this **[man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue)**

Not even one he can find with both hands.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/538 "2025-04-18T20:10:19Z")

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Small hands, gigantic arsehole

I think I might see why he can’t find his bottom.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/539 "2025-04-18T21:31:06Z")

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Certainly none of _us_ want to find it. Ye gods.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/540 "2025-04-18T23:39:33Z")

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> **[Trump administration live updates: Chris Van Hollen describes Kilmar Abrego...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-rubio-ukraine-live-updates-rcna200877#rcrd77256)**
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> Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that the U.S. could "move on" from its involvement in negotiations to end the war in Ukraine if no progress is made "within a matter of days."

Apparently they are scrambling to do more no-due-process deportation flights, presumably before the courts can step in.

Reminds me, of all things, of Nazi Germany scrambling at the end of WWII to kill more Jews, even as it took resources away from the war.

Why is doing evil so damn important to them?

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