# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/541 "2025-04-19T02:22:47Z")
> **[Trump Touts Seemingly Doctored Photo of Abrego Garcia’s Hand in Attempt To...](https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-touts-seemingly-doctored-photo-of-abrego-garcias-hand-in-attempt-to-prove-maryland-man-is-gang-member/)** > > President Donald Trump posted a photo of himself holding a seemingly digitally altered image of the left hand of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador last month. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/542 "2025-04-19T03:19:22Z")
Re the faked tattoo, can the family successfully sue Trump for defamation, or does Kilmar Abrego Garcia have to do it himself (a seeming impossibly given his confinement)? Whether a defamation case is good tactically, I do not know. But Trump does settle a lot of lawsuits. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/543 "2025-04-19T03:23:14Z")
Defamation per se to boot. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/544 "2025-04-19T12:19:42Z")
Some good news: > **[Supreme Court blocks, for now, new deportations under 18th century wartime law](https://apnews.com/article/aclu-trump-deport-venezuelans-supreme-court-5d85ffec44fca7c267315b34cec9ddb2)** > > High court acted in an emergency appeal from the American Civil Liberties Union contending that immigration authorities appeared to be moving to restart removals under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/545 "2025-04-19T13:57:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Trump Touts Digitally Altered Image of Abrego Garcia's Hand](https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-touts-seemingly-doctored-photo-of-abrego-garcias-hand-in-attempt-to-prove-maryland-man-is-gang-member/) Someone clearly digitally added the letters and numbers “M”, “S”, “1”, and “3” above the tattoos in an attempt to imply that the marijuana leaf means “M” and that the cross means “1”, etc. They even added helpful labels below the tattoos that spell out (in English!) the words “Marijuana”, “Cross”, etc. Misrepresenting the meaning of the tattoos on the man’s hand is bad enough. But Trump, master of the crude sharpie annotation on an official government hurricane track diagram, is too stupid to recognize that this is what was done. No, he writes in his “Truth” Social account: “They said he is not a member of MS-13, even though he’s got MS-13 tattooed onto his knuckles…” We are truly in malicious _Idiocracry_ territory. Trump’s venality and bad faith is only exceeded by his complete and utter stupidity. And his followers will lap it up, and I will get to hear from the Trumpers in my life that guy literally had “MS-13” tattooed on his hand, despite all evidence to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/546 "2025-04-19T16:31:49Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Trump’s venality and bad faith is only exceeded by his complete and utter stupidity. That is an area in which trump is clearly and unequivocally an overachiever. WTG, mr. president, you total dickhead. (Apologies to nice dicks everywhere.) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/547 "2025-04-19T16:36:14Z")
Of course Himmler and Goebbels, I mean Thomas and Alito, dissented in the Supreme Court’s temporary block. When Democrats get back in power, I pray they repeal that stupid 18th century law. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/548 "2025-04-20T12:14:56Z")
I did some math. To deport 1 million in a year to places other than Mexico, 8-10 plane loads would need to go every day. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/549 "2025-04-20T14:30:25Z")
And it seems to take 6 armed men and 3 unmarked vans per detainee, so it’s no wonder Homan is crying for more money. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/550 "2025-04-21T00:38:06Z")
> **[Why These Hawaii Travelers Were Jailed And Deported](https://beatofhawaii.com/why-these-hawaii-travelers-were-jailed-and-deported/)** > > Two young travelers expected their Hawaii trip to be the highlight of a long awaited world adventure. Instead, their arrival in Honolulu ended in handcuffs, jail, and deportation. More disturbing news. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/551 "2025-04-21T06:30:40Z")
Not having clear plans for accommodation or sufficient funding, and/or any other signs of intention to work, would get similar youngsters arriving in the UK into trouble, and other countries too, I should think. Maybe not quite such punitive conditions of detention but an exit ASAP wouldn’t be unknown. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/552 "2025-04-21T11:06:48Z")
> 19-year-old Jose Hermosillo, who is visiting Tucson from Albuquerque, says he was lost and walking near the Border Patrol headquarters when an agent arrested him for illegally entering the country. Hermosillo was not carrying identification. > > Court documents say a Border Patrol agent arrested Hermosillo “at or near Nogales, Arizona, without proper immigration documents” and that Hermosillo admitted to illegally entering the U.S. > > Hermosillo and his girlfriend, who have a 9-month-old child together, live in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and are visiting family in Tucson. He says he has never been to Nogales. > **[U.S. citizen in Arizona detained by immigration officials for 10 days](https://news.azpm.org/p/news-articles/2025/4/18/224512-us-citizen-in-arizona-detained-by-immigration-officials-for-10-days/)** > > Immigration officials in Tucson arrested the 19-year-old man from Albuquerque on April 8, saying he had entered the country illegally, before a judge dismissed his case on April 17. One wonders why it is so difficult for immigration officials to check various databases to confirm identity? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/553 "2025-04-21T11:56:11Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > One wonders why it is so difficult for immigration officials to check various databases to confirm identity? When i was stopped for speeding a few years ago, and realized in dismay that I’d left my driver’s license in another pair of pants, in my bedroom floor, i was worried. The police officer asked whether i owned a license, even though i wasn’t carrying it. I said “yes”. He went back to his car, looked me up, confirmed i was who i claimed to be, and gave me a written warning for speeding and informally reminded me i was supposed to be carrying my license. (Which he knew i knew, as i confidently reached for it, and then I’m sure looked horrified when i realized it wasn’t in my pocket.) Yeah, in this day and age, it’s easy to check someone’s identity, especially if they tell you their name. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/554 "2025-04-21T12:34:50Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I mean Thomas and Alito, dissented in the Supreme Court’s temporary block Can someone with better legal chops than mine explain their reasoning? It seems to me, given recent events, that allowing deportations are essentially irreversible according to the administration itself. So, the prudent thing is to hold those, even if the ultimate answer would be to allow those. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/555 "2025-04-21T12:41:46Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Can someone with better legal chops than mine explain their reasoning? Alito basically said the court moved too fast, should have waited for lower courts to rule, and didn’t hear the government’s case. No matter, of course, that any delays would probably have resulted in more deportations of innocent people. > **[Alito's dissent in deportation case says court rushed to block Trump with...](https://apnews.com/article/alito-supreme-court-deport-trump-venezuelans-dissent-300f6ca71758f05d7518b69af58ad418)** > > Justice Samuel Alito has written a sharp dissent that castigates the seven-member majority for blocking the Trump administration from deporting any Venezuelans held in northern Texas under an 18th-century wartime law. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/556 "2025-04-21T13:00:19Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > Not having clear plans for accommodation or sufficient funding, and/or any other signs of intention to work, would get similar youngsters arriving in the UK into trouble, and other countries too, I should think. Maybe not quite such punitive conditions of detention but an exit ASAP wouldn’t be unknown. Yes, which is why the Welsh girl who’s been mentioned in this thread was denied admittance to Canada: she indicated that she would work for room and board, and didn’t have a work visa. So Canadian border officials denied her entry. They didn’t ship her off to a Gulag. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/557 "2025-04-21T13:27:38Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > No matter, of course, that any delays would probably have resulted in more deportations of innocent people. Yeah - “Let’s not be hasty!” Even though ample evidence convinced 7 of your colleagues of the need for haste to prevent significant if not irreparable harm. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/558 "2025-04-21T13:28:57Z")
I have no doubt that Alito would be perfectly okay with not waiting for lower courts to rule if it had been a Democratic president’s actions being blocked. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/559 "2025-04-21T13:47:49Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > Not having clear plans for accommodation or sufficient funding, and/or any other signs of intention to work, would get similar youngsters arriving in the UK into trouble, and other countries too, I should think. Mmm. I remember flying to London as a 24-year-old American backpacker with a return ticket seven weeks after my arrival date and no pre-booked accommodations after the first three days, and nobody said a word other than a few perfunctory questions and “Welcome to the UK.” (Granted, it was back in the halcyon pre-9/11 days, but I assume working illegally was a concern then as well as now.) The one country I went to as a young traveler where the immigration authorities _did_ seem suspicious about my intentions was Canada, although they let me in eventually. I suspect the dividing line is countries that have a culture of young people taking longer trips vs. ones that don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/560 "2025-04-21T18:17:20Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > > [@Railer13](#): > > > > No matter, of course, that any delays would probably have resulted in more deportations of innocent people. > > Yeah - “Let’s not be hasty!” Even though ample evidence convinced 7 of your colleagues of the need for haste to prevent significant if not irreparable harm. Probably not “evidence,” unless affidavits were submitted, but SCOTUS certainly knows from the pleadings what’s going on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=29)