# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/581 "2025-04-25T23:45:57Z")
Unfortunately, most of the Democratic party is too chicken to actually play hardball. They’ll wimp out just like they did last time, and we’ll be right back where we started. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/582 "2025-04-25T23:57:24Z")
U.S. Restores Legal Status for Many International Students, but Warns of Removals to Come [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/us/politics/trump-student-visa-cancellations.html?smid=nytcore-android-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/us/politics/trump-student-visa-cancellations.html?smid=nytcore-android-share) But it’s not actually good news. It’s just evidence of gross incompetence and confusion, as best as i can tell. I think the goal is to scare away students without creating legal evidence that can be used to prosecute anyone on the administration. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/583 "2025-04-26T00:20:25Z")
All of this confusion is _definitely_ discouraging international students, which seems like a stupid thing to do. We want international students to come to America. They (or their country) pay tuition and other expenses, for one thing. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/584 "2025-04-26T00:23:25Z")
If your intention is to benefit America, yes, it’s stupid. If your intention is to punish your enemies, and you perceive _both_ foreigners and universities as your enemies, it’s a two-fer. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/585 "2025-04-26T00:24:11Z")
If your goal is to weaken the US, it’s an excellent move. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/586 "2025-04-26T00:24:29Z")
On the other hand, look at how Trump is attacking universities. He’d probably be thrilled to take down the Ivy League, or at least greatly diminish their prominence. Scaring away full-load-paying students is a step toward that. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/587 "2025-04-26T00:41:17Z")
Yes. Yes, Trump would. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/588 "2025-04-26T03:12:12Z")
You can pretty much depend on him to do whatever is stupid, spiteful, impulsive, vengeful, self-defeating, ill-considered and/or not in the national interest. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/589 "2025-04-26T07:15:21Z")
2-year old baby, US citizen, deported to Honduras without her dad and no due process: [https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/590 "2025-04-26T07:29:57Z")
If you can’t see that this supposed two years old is MS-13 and a terrorist I can’t help you. /bittercynicalsarcasm ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/591 "2025-04-26T14:15:24Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > If your goal is to weaken the US, it’s an excellent move. Washington Post agrees: “Trump is deliberately destroying America’s scientific edge” [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/04/25/us-losing-competitive-edge-science/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/04/25/us-losing-competitive-edge-science/) (I was able to read this article earlier this morning, but now it’s paywalled.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/592 "2025-04-26T14:24:14Z")
Gift link: # “Trump is destroying 100 years of competitive advantage in 100 days” [https://wapo.st/4jDqaVK](https://wapo.st/4jDqaVK) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/593 "2025-04-26T14:33:02Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/594 "2025-04-27T13:22:40Z")
> **[ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Prior to the...](https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/ice-deports-3-u-s-citizen-children-held-incommunicado-prior-to-the-deportation)** > > Families disappeared and isolated without legal access; one child with cancer deported without medication and pregnant mother deported as well > In the case of the other family, **a U.S. citizen child suffering from a rare form of metastatic cancer was deported without medication** or the ability to consult with their treating physicians–despite ICE being notified in advance of the child’s urgent medical needs. Shocking! ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/595 "2025-04-27T14:49:49Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > All of this confusion is _definitely_ discouraging international students, which seems like a stupid thing to do. We want international students to come to America. They (or their country) pay tuition and other expenses, for one thing. Education is one of the US’s largest exports. Yes, it counts as an export even when the students are educated here. It’s almost equal to our auto exports. [https://thehill.com/opinion/education/5267656-united-states-education-export/](https://thehill.com/opinion/education/5267656-united-states-education-export/) Anecdotally, I’m thinking of the state college that my niece attended. Just under 10% of the students are from other countries. Legally, the freshman class has to be composed of at least 80% in-state students, who pay highly reduced tuition. So about half of their full payers come from other countries. Even more anecdotally, at her graduation I noticed that certain majors and study programs had heavy concentrations of foreign students……some of the construction adjacent engineering programs were dominated by students from Middke Easterm countries. It’s going to be a huge financial hit to universities, although I suspect that’s the point. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/596 "2025-04-27T14:55:06Z")
Here’s a [gift link](https://wapo.st/42KoUsL) to Fareed Zakaria’s Washington Post column all about how in one hundred days, Trump is dismantling the advantage in science and research built by the US over the past one hundred years. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/597 "2025-04-27T15:21:40Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > We’re going to have to Nuremberg Trial most of this administration when we get power back. > [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Unfortunately, most of the Democratic party is too chicken to actually play hardball. They’ll wimp out just like they did last time, and we’ll be right back where we started. - (almost certain) On the last day whoever’s in office before the switchover will blanket-pardon anyone over anything whatsoever. - (less likely but possible, alas) SCOTUS majority will rule that everyone had inmunity for everything. - (for damned sure) If either of the Houses is still GOP-majority they THEN will reinstate the “Committee Against Weaponization of Government” to denounce and investigate any move against anyone - (for damned sure) Republicans and a whole pile of “moderates” will loudly cry out for “reconciliation” and “unity” - The Law-Enforcement community unions will choose to “stand with their brothers” at CBP and ICE rather than with the Constitution and Law they swore to defend and the People they committed to “serve and protect”. - Democrat-Administration DOJ and state AGs will _rightly_ want to cross every possible t and dot every possible i, but in the process they will once again let the suspects just drag it out (and in some cases like Georgia carelessly step on their own d\*\*ks causing their own set of delays) and raise it to a friendlier court, until things again change in their favor. I only wish I could expect to be wrong on most… ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/598 "2025-04-27T15:33:00Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > It’s going to be a huge financial hit to universities, although I suspect that’s the point. Also to employment. I don’t know what the current multiplier is, but in my time in university admin, it was something £25k income created one new job. And correspondingly, a loss of $n will mean a loss of jobs, particularly in support functions - libraries, catering, cleaning, security, building maintenance. Not to mention the commercial/industrial spin-off from research. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/599 "2025-04-27T16:15:22Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > in one hundred days, Trump is dismantling the advantage in science and research built by the US over the past one hundred years. Add in an unprecedented boost to China worldwide politically and economically, and kneecapping US support internationally… I’m not sure I can take all this winning! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/600 "2025-04-27T18:47:43Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Unfortunately, most of the Democratic party is too chicken to actually play hardball. What do you mean? Chuck Schumer sent Trump a _very strong_ letter with eight _very strong_ questions. Here, he says so himself. > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnsedlbexj23)** > > Schumer on the Democratic response to Trump's shakedown of Harvard: "We sent him a very strong letter just the other day asking eight very strong questions." (Lest anyone think I was joking.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=31)