# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/61 "2025-01-27T23:41:01Z")
Yeah they’ll find themselves in Guatemala then or even worse in an unnamed unknown holding location for a few years. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/62 "2025-01-28T01:05:22Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > First, I’ll just note that I have no issue with deporting people who have illegally overstayed their visa or otherwise come illegally into the country. (Up to the point where it causes an issue with the food supply.) Wow. The caveat says a lot. “They can stay as long as they provide me food.” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/63 "2025-01-28T01:24:16Z")
The Quakers religious group have sued the Trump administration over its guidance to permit ICE agents into houses of worship. [https://www.reuters.com/legal/quakers-sue-keep-us-immigration-agents-out-houses-worship-2025-01-27/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/quakers-sue-keep-us-immigration-agents-out-houses-worship-2025-01-27/) ---
**Author:** ![BorealisCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@BorealisCooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorealisCooper)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/64 "2025-01-28T01:51:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > it would be fun to watch if the Cherokees were deported back to Georgia, the Carolinas, and Tennessee. In spite of the fact that Andrew Jackson killed so many and forced so many Native Americans from their homes onto The Trail of Tears ,and stole their land, you can be assured that a great many people in the Southeast are descended from Cherokee, Creek, Seminole and other tribes. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/65 "2025-01-28T02:02:26Z")
> **[Pittsburgh Mayor Ed Gainey Says His Administration Will Not Work With ICE](https://www.politicspa.com/pittsburgh-mayor-ed-gainey-says-his-administration-will-not-work-with-ice/140555/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pittsburgh-mayor-ed-gainey-says-his-administration-will-not-work-with-ice)** > > "We will do whatever is necessary to make our city more welcome. That's what we're built on." Glad to see my local area is at least giving some verbal resistance. We’ll see how it goes. At least 30 restaurants closed temporarily over the last few days in response to this mess. > **[30 Pittsburgh businesses temporarily close to protect people from ICE raids,...](https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/30-pittsburgh-businesses-temporarily-close-protect-people-ice-raids-sources-say/FMLV4YGE7VHBHLNV7HYMW532VQ/)** > > Immigration raids are playing out across the country, including here in Pittsburgh. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/66 "2025-01-28T02:05:34Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > you can be assured that a great many people in the Southeast are descended from Cherokee, Creek, Seminole and other tribes. Then they will rejoice and celebrate the return of their kin. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/67 "2025-01-28T03:39:58Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > The caveat says a lot. “They can stay as long as they provide me food.” To my knowledge, the people who are living and working here are largely treated fairly and well. We’re not talking slavery.° Likewise, the economics of the situation would say that, in the short run, we’ll just be hurting ourselves by removing a substantial workforce that we don’t have a replacement for. _Technically_, they’re here illegally and deportation is completely reasonable. But it’s really not a priority and, certainly, not something worth killing ourselves to accomplish. If you believe that it is, you’re free to make that argument. ° That said, one of the reasons why I believe that we should try to move away from having so many people in the country illegally is that their illegal stature and risk of deportation opens them to extortion and threats by people who are aware of their status, and so they don’t have the full protections of the law to ensure fair treatment. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/68 "2025-01-28T19:53:16Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > In spite of the fact that Andrew Jackson killed so many and forced so many Native Americans from their homes onto The Trail of Tears ,and stole their land, Jackson certainly stole their land, and signed the bill that evicted them, but the deaths should be laid upon Martin Van Buren, during whose term the exodus actually occurred and whose administrations racism, corruption, and general incompetence caused the deaths. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/69 "2025-01-28T20:37:04Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I can see some Hispanic citizen activists deliberately getting themselves rounded up just to gum up the works. Forget “gum up the works”. _Free flights to South America!_ Vacation plans: Step One: call ICE on yourself. I mean, if you have a passport, you can get back in. Get deported, have someone mail you your passport, come home rested and relaxed. I think we need to at least start rumors that they’re doing this, if we’re looking to gum up the works. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/70 "2025-01-28T20:37:53Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > To my knowledge, the people who are living and working here are largely treated fairly and well. We’re not talking slavery Itinerant agricultural workers (both permitted and ‘illegal’) are often required to work in harsh conditions with minimal protective equipment, frequently without mandatory breaks, adequate shade/shelter, OJI coverage, and any kind of job security or protection from abuse. I’ve actually worked with immigrant agricultural workers picking apples (which is certainly one of the ‘better’ jobs) and it is hard fucking work that requires care and some skill in handling the fruit without bruising or gauging it, and while I wouldn’t describe the treatment as ‘harsh’, the orchard manager was constantly inveighing the workers to pick faster even though they would work for many hours on end without break. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > _Technically_, they’re here illegally and deportation is completely reasonable. Most of them are “here illegally” because Congress has steadfastly refused to produce immigration reform that would make it feasible for enough itinerant workers to enter the country on work visas to meet needs or to claim asylum more efficiently. Immigrants are largely productive workers doing valuable work for wages the vast majority of American citizens would turn their noses at, and they are also consumers that support local economies. They also, despite ill-informed or dishonest claims to the contrary, do not qualify for or collect any federal aid, although some states do have aid programs available to undocumented immigrants (especially pregnant women and children for obvious reasons). This progressive vilification and persecution of immigrants—currently ‘illegal’ but you can bet that people on work and student visas are going to be given the shove next—is just one of a multitude of signs that we have shifted into high gear on the road to full-on fascist governance. You know, in addition to the tech tycoon and ‘First Buddy’ who twice gave a ‘Roman salute’ at the inauguration rally. Just…what the fuck? Remember when Nazis were the bad guys that Indiana Jones killed by the truckful and people cheered when he threw one through the windscreen and ran over him? What…the…fuck? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/71 "2025-01-28T20:45:45Z")
If we must have a dictator, where does it say it has to be a demonstrably stupid sociopath? And wouldn’t it be more fun to be a benevolent despot rather than a Hitler 2.0? ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/72 "2025-01-28T20:55:24Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I mean, if you have a passport, you can get back in. Get deported, have someone mail you your passport, come home rested and relaxed. The insane Tory Rwanda plan was abused in a similar way. There were a few volunteers who agreed to be deported to Rwanda and were paid £3000 to help them settle. At least one of them was back in the UK within a fortnight. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/73 "2025-01-28T21:01:40Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > If we must have a dictator, where does it say it has to be a demonstrably stupid sociopath? And wouldn’t it be more fun to be a benevolent despot rather than a Hitler 2.0? I think the idea of a benevolent despot is impossible. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely” as they say. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/74 "2025-01-28T21:57:22Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > it is hard fucking work that requires care and some skill in handling the fruit without bruising or gauging it, and while I wouldn’t describe the treatment as ‘harsh’, the orchard manager was constantly inveighing the workers to pick faster even though they would work for many hours on end without break. Then your understanding would match mine, so far as I can tell. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Most of them are “here illegally” because Congress has steadfastly refused to produce immigration reform Well and shoplifting is just a crime in most states because the other ones won’t follow California’s lead on decriminilization! So, let’s go a-criming? We can imagine justifications for any particular unlawful activity that we personally object to and decide ourselves that The Man is just out to get us and completely unreasonable. Being able to imagine said justification doesn’t change the facts of the law nor the logic that convinced the majority of our elected leaders to make the law what it is. Up to the moment that it changes, you made a conscious decision that the crime was worth the punishment, and you have no one to blame but yourself on the day that punishment comes. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/75 "2025-01-28T22:03:38Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Just…what the fuck? Remember when Nazis were the bad guys that Indiana Jones killed by the truckful and people cheered when he threw one through the windscreen and ran over him? What…the…fuck? Shucks, when I was a kid King John and the Sheriff were the bad guys and Robin Hood was our hero. Because he stole from the rich and gave to the poor. T\*\*\*p feels threatened when asked even for something as painless (to him) as mercy. And Right Wing Christianity cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/76 "2025-01-29T00:46:40Z")
Just had our staff meeting at work. I’m a teacher. They told us if anyone, anyone at all, comes to the school to look for any student or inquires about any student, only send them to the principal. We have a highly Hispanic population. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/77 "2025-01-29T00:52:55Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Being able to imagine said justification doesn’t change the facts of the law nor the logic that convinced the majority of our elected leaders to make the law what it is. Except that you, yourself, did so above. If you don’t think this is going to MAJORLY fuck with the food supply in this country, then you have very little understanding of the realities of agricultural in this country. Oh, and those home renovations are about get a whole lot more expensive too. That quote you got last year for a new roof? Double it. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > They told us if anyone, anyone at all, comes to the school to look for any student or inquires about any student, only send them to the principal. I wish all kids went to your school - or at least one like it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/78 "2025-01-29T01:10:20Z")
Our county sheriff, who is a former social worker who ran against and beat a maga anti-vaxer in 2022, announced on Facebook a few days ago that the department’s policy is to not cooperate with ICE in any way. A couple days later he posted about a repeat offender who had been busted driving drunk, and a maga accused him in the comments of letting “illegals” run free, to which he responded with a surprisingly cutting reply; > **[https://i.redd.it/aafehqfgjafe1.jpeg](https://i.redd.it/aafehqfgjafe1.jpeg)** ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/79 "2025-01-29T01:38:32Z")
Whoa, nice sheriff you got there! 😍 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/80 "2025-01-29T01:42:05Z")
My understanding is that enforcing immigration law is outside the jurisdiction of the city or state. So for a city to call itself a “sanctuary city” is actually consistent with the idea of local control, which was, I thought, a cornerstone of conservative philosophy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=5)