# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/781 "2025-06-13T17:16:29Z")
Gotta protect them hotels! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/782 "2025-06-14T00:26:07Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Trust me, I’ve got the message. Don’t know if I’ll ever visit the U.S. again. I hope to be able to welcome you on or after Jan. 20, 2029. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/783 "2025-06-14T12:41:49Z")
I dunno. Even in the “normal times” some at CBP/ICE tended to be a bit too fond of exercising their Authoratah. And a lot of them will still be there. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/784 "2025-06-15T12:31:44Z")
[Trump’s Extraordinary Turnaround on Immigration Raids](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/trump-immigration-raids-workers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.PE8.KOlc.LR_GWNHh4xi4&smid=url-share) > [@](#): > > Many of Mr. Trump’s top aides, particularly Stephen Miller, his deputy chief of staff, have urged a hard-line approach, targeting all immigrants without legal status to fulfill the president’s promise of the biggest deportation campaign in American history. > > But [the decision had been made](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/us/politics/trump-ice-raids-farms-hotels.html). Later on Thursday, a senior official with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Tatum King, sent an email to regional leaders at the agency informing them of new guidance. Agents were to “hold on all work site enforcement investigations/operations on agriculture (including aquaculture and meat packing plants), restaurants and operating hotels.” > > It remains to be seen how effective the order will be and whether Mr. Trump will stick with his decision. Raids at other work sites, like the one in Los Angeles’s garment industry that led to mass protests, are still allowed. On Friday, the day after Mr. Trump issued the new guidance, farm workers were being rounded up in the fields of Oxnard, 50 miles north of Los Angeles, according to advocates. TACO? Not quite. MAGA needs the immigration issue. Empty produce shelves, higher prices for milk, and shoppers asking “where’s the beef,” would take that issue away from the GOP. So Trump will do his weave to maintain a level of fear without actually destroying GOP electoral chances going forward. What he definitely won’t allow is comprehensive immigration reform tio legally admit needed workers and legalize the status of workers he wants to keep around. No way he throws away his signature issue by solving the problem. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/785 "2025-06-15T13:28:08Z")
If you asked Trump supporters, they’d tell you that grocery store prices are down now. Until someone they know personally is disappeared, the’ll continue to cheer him on. And even then, they’ll still support his agenda. Trump may be feeling pressure from business owners and corporate people, and may respond to that. $ ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/786 "2025-06-15T15:13:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Trump may be feeling pressure from business owners and corporate people, and may respond to that. That’s the pressure that creates the TACO meme. Individuals? Irrelevant. His paymasters in commerce and industry? The real power behind the throne. As much as he aspires to be like Putin, he never will because his relationship with the oligarchy is inverted. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/787 "2025-06-15T15:17:49Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > His paymasters in commerce and industry? It’s truly frightening to think that the only thing that stands between an insane dictatorship and some semblance of normality is malignant capitalism. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/788 "2025-06-15T15:35:42Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > If you asked Trump supporters, they’d tell you that grocery store prices are down now. Even on that they are wrong. > **[Graphic: How grocery prices have changed since Trump took office](https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/grocery-price-tracker-inflation-trends-eggs-bread-trump-administration-rcna257424)** > > NBC News is tracking changes in the prices of eggs, bread, ground beef, chicken and other grocery items to monitor the impact on consumers’ food bills. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/789 "2025-06-15T17:12:53Z")
If their Leader tells them prices are down, they’re down. He is the conduit of truth. Facts ~~do not matter~~ do not exist. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/790 "2025-06-17T15:52:23Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Even on that they are wrong. Who are you going to believe, Trump or the lying MSM? I have a question. In this article: [https://www.wsj.com/us-news/deportations-raids-business-farms-630a917e?mod=hp\_lead\_pos7](https://www.wsj.com/us-news/deportations-raids-business-farms-630a917e?mod=hp_lead_pos7) (most likely paywalled) it says > At a construction site in Tallahassee, Fla., workers were pouring the concrete foundation for a 220-unit student housing development the morning of May 29 when federal authorities swarmed the 5-acre site, according to project supervisor Joe Caliendo, who saw the chaos unfolding from an elevated deck. Federal agents climbed over fences and ordered everyone to form two lines: U.S. citizens and noncitizens. So can ICE detain me (a US citizen) solely for the purpose of establishing my citizenship? Most police can’t just walk up to me and demand my papers. What would happen if a US citizen simply refused to get in the line? And I mean legally, because of course I’m aware that the man with the gun and badge will ultimately get his way. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/791 "2025-06-17T16:04:09Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > What would happen if a US citizen simply refused to get in the line? Are you asking about a white US citizen, or another? Because I suspect you have two different answers here. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/792 "2025-06-17T20:51:46Z")
We have masked men dressed in plain clothes who refuse to identify themselves snatching people off of the streets and driving them away. There are so many videos of this happening and no is able to stop them. What a sad and terrible time in America. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/793 "2025-06-17T22:28:51Z")
Two days ago, I posted, in this thread, that Trump ordered a stop to raids on agriculture, hotels, and restaurants. No longer: [Trump officials reverse guidance exempting farms, hotels from immigration raids](https://wapo.st/43PPwus) > [@](#): > > The June 12 memo acknowledged that avoiding these large-scale employers would hinder ICE officers’ efforts, saying, “We acknowledge that by taking this off the table, that we are eliminating a significant # of potential targets.” . . . > > Rebecca Shi, chief executive of the American Business Immigration Coalition, said the pause officials put in place last week had signaled to many employers that the president was “open to a solution.” > > Then, on Sunday night, Trump made a post on his Truth Social account that he said amounted to an order for ICE officials “to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History,” . . . ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/794 "2025-06-18T02:34:03Z")
Really, all he needs to do is require e-Verify. That he’s not doing it, and instead asking for a few trillion dollars to enact a police state, tells you everything you need to know. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/795 "2025-06-18T02:54:19Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Really, all he needs to do is require e-Verify. If e-Verify is completely effective at verifying whether you are allowed to work in the U.S., I’m thinking this would work for only certain job categories. They would have to pay hotel cleaning staff more, but I think that’s practical. The Trump hotels seem to have done that when their hiring practices were publicized in Trump 45. However, some of the agricultural jobs, that require hard work nearly around the clock, seem to me truly in the category of jobs Americans will not do, or will soon quit if they start, almost no matter what you pay them. There has to be more legal immigration if you are going to deport all the current hard workers who are not fully authorized. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/796 "2025-06-18T05:02:07Z")
If you paid people a reasonable wage and gave them reasonable conditions, they absolutely would. Under the current working conditions, you are probably right. There is nothing inherently awful about working in the fields, though it’s definitely work rather than fun. It’s doing so at a breakneck pace with ridiculous expectations of productivity that puts things over the line. In other words, if we make it so that Americans will do it, you can say goodbye to cheap food. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/797 "2025-06-18T06:31:55Z")
Exploitation of illegal farm workers has enabled Americans to enjoy cheap food for generations. To the point we think it’s the norm and the right and true way of the world. In reality, food has never been so cheap in history. Of course, raising the cost of food to an equitable level would run straight into the housing crisis. At this point, I’m glad I’m not one of the people expected to solve these sorts of problems. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/798 "2025-06-18T09:09:02Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Exploitation of illegal farm workers has enabled Americans to enjoy cheap food for generations. Woody Guthrie wrote [_Deportee_ (_Plane Wreck at Los Gatos_)](https://woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Deportee.htm) in 1948, _The crops are all in and the peaches are rott’ning,_ _The oranges piled in their creosote dumps;_ _They’re flying 'em back to the Mexican border_ _To pay all their money to wade back again_ … _Some of us are illegal, and some are not wanted,_ _Our work contract’s out and we have to move on;_ _Six hundred miles to that Mexican border,_ _They chase us like outlaws, like rustlers, like thieves._ … _Is this the best way we can grow our big orchards?_ _Is this the best way we can grow our good fruit?_ _To fall like dry leaves to rot on my topsoil_ _And be called by no name except “deportees”?_ I fear those lyrics will still seem fresh in 2048. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/799 "2025-06-18T12:46:11Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Of course, raising the cost of food to an equitable level would run straight into the housing crisis. Maybe. But higher food prices will decrease housing demand from non-farm laborers. A lot depends on tariff rates. If we follow laws and negotiated tariff agreements (which Trump does not), there wil be import substitution as food is produced by much lower wage workers abroad. Each type of crop is a different situation. I am in a mushroom growing area. Mushrooms are so fragile that imports are probably impractical except for canned, and Americans have gotten used to fresh. Americans have also gotten used to all year around berries. Those are just slightly less fragile, so flying them in may be more practical, as happens in what used to be the off season. If you make it so that the produce prices are highest in the American summer, when berries are NOT imported, people will eat less of thrm during the summer. The system where hard-working immigrants come to America to make a better life for their children is not as exploitative or flawed as some of the old-time liberals think. However, if they were admitted legally and permanently, there would be less exploitation since they would have time to organize and could complain when labor laws are violated. This would not spike prices much because the better farm employers already treat skilled experienced workers relatively well so they do not quit. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/800 "2025-06-18T12:55:10Z")
Well, that _is_ the key - have a _legal_ means for what are essential workers for our country to come and work/live here, whether that’s permanently or if people choose to only come up here seasonally/occasionally and then return home to their families (because not everyone wants to live here permanently, but they do want a job and money). There will be much less exploitation and the impact to food prices I am _guessing_ would be less than the cost of tariffs and the sort of raid-and-detention system the government is currently running. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=41)