# The Trump deportation news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/801 "2025-06-18T13:45:04Z")

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I always think it’s the legacy of slavery: we really expect an entire set of people, ideally non-white, to sacrifice themselves for our convenience. It’s a horrible stain on our society.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/802 "2025-06-18T14:31:12Z")

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Re last post:

Successful societies welcome newcomers. Out of self-interest? Yes. Most humans are nationalists. If Americans see the only purpose of immigration as being to help immigrants, we will have MAGA forever.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/803 "2025-06-19T12:25:57Z")

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[Here in Chicago](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/illinois-members-congress-denied-access-ice-facility-second-day/), Congresspersons again denied access to ICE facilities. A masked employee refuses to give his name, and tells them they have to get their visit approved by ICE admin. Later posts a sign claiming they have to seek permission 72 hrs in advance. No one at ICE or elsewhere has identified any authority for such requirements.

Hard to imagine anyone thinking that is a desired balance of authority.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/804 "2025-06-19T20:39:43Z")

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Gosh, how could they _possibly_ have foreseen she’d do terrible things? 🙄

> **[Some Democratic senators regret voting to confirm Kristi Noem as DHS secretary](https://www.aol.com/news/democratic-senators-regret-voting-confirm-212355699.html)**
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> Some of the seven Democrats who voted for Noem say they'd now oppose her in the wake of Trump's aggressive deportation plans and last week's incident involving Sen. Alex Padilla.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/805 "2025-06-19T21:48:56Z")

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It’s not like shooting your kid’s dog is a red flag.🚩 Who knew?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/806 "2025-06-19T23:13:13Z")

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Yeah, if anyone is interested in compiling a list of the stupidest Democratic senators, we have a count of 7 head start.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/807 "2025-06-20T01:05:21Z")

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The LA Dodgers announced that [ICE agents were turned away from the gates](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45545612/dodgers-ask-ice-agents-leave-dodger-stadium-parking-lot) after requesting access to the parking lots prior to today’s game.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/808 "2025-06-20T01:11:56Z")

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Hey, some good news for a change!

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/809 "2025-06-20T01:17:55Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> The LA Dodgers announced that [ICE agents were turned away from the gates](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45545612/dodgers-ask-ice-agents-leave-dodger-stadium-parking-lot)

From the linked article:

> Councilmember Eunisses Hernandez arrived at the stadium and said she had been in communication with Dodgers officials and the mayor’s office.
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> “We’ve been in communication with the mayor’s office, with the Dodgers, with Dodgers security, about seeing if they can get them moved off their private property,” she told KABC-TV. “Public property is different. **Private property – businesses and corporations have the power to say, ‘Not on my property,’** and so we’re waiting to see that movement happen here.”

My bold

Is this true? Can a business (Home Depot, a farm, a meatpacking plant) refuse to let ICE or custom agents on their property?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/810 "2025-06-20T01:18:46Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Can a business (Home Depot, a farm, a meatpacking plant) refuse to let ICE or custom agents on their property?

They can, unless the ICE or Customs agents have a warrant.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/811 "2025-06-20T01:19:43Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> They can, unless the ICE or Customs agents have a warrant.

Thanks.

I rarely say this, but Go Dodgers!

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/812 "2025-06-20T01:21:15Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> They can, unless the ICE or Customs agents have a warrant.

I’m not sure if any warrant is sufficient, or only a judicial warrant.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/813 "2025-06-20T19:36:28Z")

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From what I’ve heard they were wanting to use the parking lot as a staging area for processing the mass arrests they were planning.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/814 "2025-06-21T12:36:30Z")

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What a bunch of loathsome shits they are. Their real purpose is to terrorize amd humiliate. My fantasy is that when this is over all of them will end up being tried for human rights abuses, a la Nuremberg.

One thing I have not yet seen but am expecting any day now, is targeting of nursing homes. In Michigan a great many nursing homes are staffed with Filipinos-nurses, aides, medical assistants and so on. Sure they are trained and qualified, desperately needed and here legally but still-you have a bunch of brown people in one location that can be just scooped up en masse! And what are those old people in wheelchairs going to do to stop it, huh? The optics would be horrific but that seems to be a plus as far as ICE is concerned.

I haven’t seen this yet. But I am expecting it.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/815 "2025-06-21T16:33:28Z")

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The other hitch is that I don’t think, up to this point, people have made a habit of carrying all their documentation with them everywhere they go. So ICE scoops you up, you don’t have your documents on your person, and in detention you have no way to get them and no way to contact anyone to bring them in. Which leaves the a legal detainee screwd and potentially deported.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/816 "2025-06-21T16:50:45Z")

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I started to carry my passport card in my wallet, just in case I meet ICE goons.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/817 "2025-06-21T16:56:37Z")

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I decided to upgrade my driver’s license to real ID for the same reason.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/818 "2025-06-21T16:59:11Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> The other hitch is that I don’t think, up to this point, people have made a habit of carrying all their documentation with them everywhere they go. So ICE scoops you up, you don’t have your documents on your person, and in detention you have no way to get them and no way to contact anyone to bring them in. Which leaves the a legal detainee screwd and potentially deported.

I think the habits in this regard depend on what group you’re in. I suspect the percentage of Latinos carrying their documents is higher than that of white people.

As a gay person, I carry a laminated wallet-sized color copy of my marriage certificate in case of trouble, in case of hospitalization or the like. Pure paranoia, but I don’t trust our institutions. I imagine non-white people feel this a lot more.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/819 "2025-06-21T17:11:18Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I started to carry my passport card in my wallet, just in case I meet ICE goons.

In my darker moments I imagine an ICE stooge looking at your passport, giving you some BS about it not being valid, which would be his “reason” to not give it back to you, and then trucking you off.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/820 "2025-06-21T17:11:32Z")

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Oh, hell, I had to start carrying my marriage certificate during my late spouse’s last illness despite us being a White, heterosexual couple because of the certain small but extremely annoying percentage of medical “professionals” who just _could not believe_ that someone with his disability had actually found someone to marry him. Including a social worker who almost shipped him off to a nursing home without consulting anyone because she had convinced herself that I was his hired attendant and not his wife and thus had no say in what happened to him. Yeah, I made a lot of noise about that. A lot.

Anyhow - documentation, and having it on your person, is getting to be more and more important these days. _Rapidly_ more important.

Definitely keep that marriage certificate on hand.

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