# The Trump deportation news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/821 "2025-06-22T01:26:34Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> From what I’ve heard they were wanting to use the parking lot as a staging area for processing the mass arrests they were planning.

Here’s a (very snarky) article on the incident, the author notes that it wasn’t a good location for a staging area and speculates that it might have more to due with an initiative to support communities impacted by deportations that the team had announced the previous day…….another performative stunt.

> **[Dodgers Decline To Let Masked Nazis In To Deport People Or Masturbate Or Both](https://www.wonkette.com/p/dodgers-decline-to-let-masked-nazis)**
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> Plus, what's up with the athletes (not) coming for the Olympics?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/822 "2025-06-22T01:29:24Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> My fantasy is that when this is over all of them will end up being tried for human rights abuses, a la Nuremberg.

That’s why they wear masks.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/823 "2025-06-22T01:36:04Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Here’s a (very snarky) article on the incident,

The Wonkette has a nice turn of phrase:

> …you may as well drive the additional 10 minutes to the federal building downtown and process all your detainees there, where you will presumably be protected by the National Guard and Marines that have been dispatched to stand around with their collective thumbs up their collective asses so that Donald Trump can feel something stirring in his dusty loins.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/824 "2025-06-22T02:27:56Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> In my darker moments I imagine an ICE stooge looking at your passport, giving you some BS about it not being valid, which would be his “reason” to not give it back to you, and then trucking you off.

One hardly needs imagine this, since it’s actually happened to multiple people, as documented on Wikipedia’s article on [Detention and deportation of American citizens in the second Trump administration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_and_deportation_of_American_citizens_in_the_second_Trump_administration):

> American-born citizen Leonardo Garcia Venegas was detained in a vehicle following an immigration raid in [Foley, Alabama](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley,_Alabama), in May 2025. He was subsequently released after giving authorities his [Social Security number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_number). Garcia’s brother, who is not a U.S. citizen, was arrested during the raid. According to Garcia and his cousin, the authorities conducting the raid saw Garcia’s [REAL ID](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ID_Act) and called it fake before detaining him.  
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> According to the [Navajo Nation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Nation), over a dozen indigenous people had been questioned, detained, or asked to provide proof of citizenship by federal law enforcement during immigration raids in January 2025. In some cases, ICE officers were not aware that [Certificates of Degree of Indian Blood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_Degree_of_Indian_Blood) (CDIB) are proof of citizenship, and one person was detained for nine hours.

That page documents many other cases where American citizens were detained, sometimes for days, despite showing or offering to show proof of citizenship that they were currently carrying, or despite having a friend or relative later bring their proof of citizenship. In those cases, there’s no indication that the authorities considered the ID to be fake; they just refused or neglected to examine it, or continued to detain the citizen after examining it.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/825 "2025-06-22T02:34:27Z")

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My post should have been directed to white folk too. More of a royal “you”.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/826 "2025-06-24T01:43:14Z")

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Pardon multi-post…At least one Causasian got scooped that I can find.

> **[Canadian woman detained by ICE being used as ‘example,’ immigration experts...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11080371/canadian-woman-detained-ice-example-immigration-border/)**
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> Len Saunders, an immigration lawyer in Blaine, told Global News that he is not Mooney's lawyer but he did speak to her a few weeks ago after being referred by a fellow client.

Oh, wait - probably some uppity broad\* yanno amirite?

Broad, n. - dip-shit-like reference to women by old school shitheels, quixotically aping to be the next erzatz Rat Pack

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/827 "2025-06-24T02:14:41Z")

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Except that wasn’t even a deportation. She applied at the border control for permission to enter the US, on a work visa that she had used in the past. The US border agents decided that her visa was no longer good, for some reason. Fair enough, I guess. If the visa’s no good, you can be denied entry.

But they didn’t just deny entry and turn her away. They detained her, instead of just denying entry, and held her for about two weeks.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/828 "2025-06-24T02:29:02Z")

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Acknowledged my post wasn’t the right one for this thread. (not to mention I’d thought I was in the pit 🤦‍♂️)

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/829 "2025-06-24T12:06:19Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> [Canadian woman detained by ICE being used as ‘example,’ immigration experts warn | Globalnews.ca](https://globalnews.ca/news/11080371/canadian-woman-detained-ice-example-immigration-border/)

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> She is the founder of a water health drink brand

Where is RFK Jr when he could actually do some good?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/830 "2025-06-25T18:08:13Z")

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Trump is now [suing ALL Maryland federal judges](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/dmv-immigration/trump-administration-sues-every-federal-district-judge-in-maryland-over-standing-order-barring-immediate-deportations-george-russell-abrego-garcia/65-ca46c527-20a6-4b08-8cea-a89f97ca52aa) over a standing order issued in May that grants an automatic two-day reprieve when deportations are challenged in the state.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/831 "2025-06-26T21:42:37Z")

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On the somewhat lighter side, Jasmine Crockett has asked a few good questions about Melania. Or fun questions, anyway.

> **[Melania Trump's visa questioned in congressional hearing](https://www.newsweek.com/melania-trump-einstein-visa-questioned-jasmine-crockett-2090901)**
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> "It doesn't take an Einstein to see that the math ain't mathin' here," Democratic Representative Jasmine Crockett said.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/832 "2025-06-26T22:27:28Z")

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Worth mentioning …

From the Associated Press:

_“The wife of the GOP presidential nominee, who sometimes worked as a model under just her first name, has said through an attorney that she first came to the U.S. from Slovenia on Aug. 27, 1996, on a B1/B2 visitor visa and then obtained an H-1B work visa on Oct. 18, 1996. The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.”_

Sounds like he married an illegal alien and then used chain migration to bring her parents here.

Also …

> **[Justice Department says it intends to try Kilmar Abrego Garcia on smuggling...](https://apnews.com/article/kilmar-abrego-garcia-maryland-tennessee-charges-deportation-c96844906793b35a80f9bbb4afa07e94)**
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> The Justice Department says it intends to try Kilmar Abrego Garcia on federal smuggling charges in Tennessee before it moves to deport him to a country that is not his native El Salvador.

As we said, we’re never going to let this guy breathe free American air, and SCOTUS just told us they don’t care where we send him.

Lovely.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/833 "2025-06-26T23:36:07Z")

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He’s going to South Sudan, isn’t he?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/834 "2025-06-27T00:26:17Z")

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> **[Canadian Citizen Dies at ICE Detention Center in Florida](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/us/canadian-dies-ice-custody-florida.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SE8.efI-.6xYwFkZ1WdXm&smid=url-share)**
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> The death of Johnny Noviello, 49, came as ICE agents have made sweeping arrests across the United States as part of President Trump’s crackdown on immigration. The cause is under investigation.

Gift link

> …Mr. [Johnny] Noviello entered the United States in 1988 with a legal visa status and became a lawful permanent resident in 1991, the agency said. In October 2023, he was convicted of charges of racketeering and drug trafficking in Volusia County, Fla., and was sentenced to 12 months in prison.  
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> Mr. Noviello is the 10th person to die in ICE custody this year and the fourth person to die in custody in Florida, according to the agency’s website.

Being picked up by ICE can be bad for your health.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/835 "2025-06-27T00:36:22Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> He’s going to South Sudan

Speaking of South Sudan, the #10 pick in the NBA draft last night hails from that country. He hasn’t been able to go home since the college season ended, and he certainly won’t be going anytime soon. His current visa is no longer valid, but

> Because Maluach was drafted Wednesday by a U.S.-based team, the NBA will begin the process of acquiring a P-1 visa — the typical professional athlete visa for the United States.

It’s okay for you to stay here if you’re 7’1" and can dunk and rebound.

> **[The U.S. revoked visas from a top basketball player's country. How the NBA...](https://www.nbcnews.com/sports/nba/nba-draft-khaman-maluach-duke-south-sudan-rcna213634)**
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> Khaman Maluach, a former Duke star from South Sudan, was taken with the No. 10 pick in the NBA draft.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/836 "2025-06-27T00:36:28Z")

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If and when we have a sane government again, my greatest hope is that each and every ICE agent is fired January 20, 2029. Then investigate every last one of those bastards and those tried and found guilty get a life sentence in that Alligator Alcatraz boondoggle.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/837 "2025-06-27T01:17:21Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Being picked up by ICE can be bad for your health.

I don’t it’s possible to say that from one sample. People die in prison all the time. You don’t become immortal because you’re in federal custody.

It sounds like it was some sort of heart condition. Did he have a pre-existing medical condition?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/838 "2025-06-27T01:50:38Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> > Trust me, I’ve got the message. Don’t know if I’ll ever visit the U.S. again.
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> I hope to be able to welcome you on or after Jan. 20, 2029.

It will take years to fix the damage Trump has done to the entire federal civil service. Things might be better around 2033. **Might** be. It’s always much easier to destroy than to build back. And that includes not just the destroyed national infrastructure, but the US reputation abroad among former friends, allies, and economic partners. That might never be regained.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/839 "2025-06-27T02:53:03Z")

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And it’s not just Trump. He’s moved the Overton window so far in favour of attacks on due process and the rule of law that I don’t want to take a chance.

He’s a symptom, not the disease.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/840 "2025-06-27T09:40:39Z")

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Yup. Totally.

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