# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/861 "2025-07-09T08:43:38Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > Not doubting you, but did he actually say “natural born” citizens? What the heck kind of fake reasoning does he give for that? It’s a response to the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution that says : All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. Trump has stated that he intends to expel children of illegal immigrants, who were born in the US, and who are thus legal citizens. His justification is that the above text was only meant to apply to children of freed slaves. [https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article306490936.html#storylink=cpy](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article306490936.html#storylink=cpy) > **[Trump’s Executive Order on Birthright Citizenship, Explained](https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/trumps-remarks-on-birthright-citizenship-explained)** > > Yesterday, Trump signed an executive order intended to end birthright citizenship. We break down why that’s clearly unconstitutional. > **[Trump wants to end birthright citizenship. Where do other countries stand?](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c983g6zpz28o)** > > The US has historically given automatic citizenship to anyone born in the country, but this principle is not the norm globally. > **[Trump’s justice department issues directive to strip naturalized Americans of...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/trump-birthright-citizenship-naturalized-citizens)** > > Memo says those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/862 "2025-07-09T08:56:49Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > No, all non-whites. He has stated an intention to revoke citizenship and expel natural-born citizens. He’s making noises about stripping Elon Musk’s citizenship and deporting him and last I heard Musk is as White as they come. I’d take a guess that being White won’t save you if you piss off Trump. As you noted, he’s looking for a way to get rid of undesirable native-born citizens, too, whether the “wrong” color or annoying even while White. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > This is ethnic cleansing. Yes, yes it is. And “Alligator Alcatraz” is a straight-up concentration camp. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > This is also terrifying. I never thought the country would descend to this level. Some of us have been sounding the alarm for a couple of _years_ now, but were dismissed as over-reacting, crazy, or less pleasent things. > [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > Not doubting you, but did he actually say “natural born” citizens? What the heck kind of fake reasoning does he give for that? What do you think Trump’s attempt to end birthright citizenship is all about? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/863 "2025-07-09T09:11:20Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Some details are coming out about the conditions at Alligator Alcatraz, and it’s worse than you can possibly imagine. One meal a day. Maggot-infested food. Detainees not permitted baths or Bibles. > > The Trump administration are _war criminals._ Yes. It’s a concentration camp run by thugs who consider the inmates as sub-human. Does this remind you of anything? But no, they’re not “war criminals” because this is not coming from a war, or POW’s. This is a government turning against internal civilians. Equivalent to 1930’s Nazi-run Germany turning against the Jews inside Germany, along with a side order of oppressing other groups like Romani and homosexuals. This time around it’s “Mexicans”, meaning anyone from south of the border whose native language is Spanish. As most of them are “Brown” it saves forcing them to sew little yellow tacos onto their clothing to identify them. Sweeping up the occasional US citizen among them? 🤷‍♀️ Sucks to be them. Truth is Trump’s thugs are happily arresting any immigrant they can, of any color of ethnicity, and deporting them, too, but they’re really concentrating on the Latinos. Makes me wonder how things will be down the line for the wives of powerful politicians who are of that ethnicity, will their husbands be able to defend them? Not to mention the elected members of Congress who are themselves Latino/Latina. A few years down the line, who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/864 "2025-07-09T13:44:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Some of us have been sounding the alarm for a couple of _years_ now, but were dismissed as over-reacting, crazy, or less pleasent things. There was even a meme about that a while back. I can’t find it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/865 "2025-07-09T15:04:54Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > This is also terrifying. I never thought the country would descend to this level. > > Some of us have been sounding the alarm for a couple of _years_ now, but were dismissed as over-reacting, crazy, or less pleasent things. I think I expected more pushback from Republicans in Congress or the courts, including the Supreme Court. I didn’t think that Congress and the Supreme Court would just roll over and agree to whatever he wants. It _seems_ that the Supreme Court hasn’t ruled against him in any of the cases that have come to them. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/866 "2025-07-09T15:44:38Z")
The courts have ruled against Trump, including the SCotUS (notably regarding Garcia’s wrongful deportation to El Salvador), but Trump has simply ignored those rulings to a considerable extent. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/867 "2025-07-09T15:48:26Z")
That’s part of the problem; most Republican presidents are wrong about absolutely everything, but they are at least wrong within normal parameters. And even previous Republican presidents didn’t just ignore court rulings. ---
**Author:** ![betonbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@betonbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betonbill)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/868 "2025-07-10T01:43:03Z")
I think Florida is building a second “camp” at Camp Blanding in Starke, which is close to Ocala. So, maybe not tents but old Army barracks (?). From the pictures in the article above, it appears that DeSantis and the Florida legislature are trying to create their own version of the prison in El Salvador. White clothing, very few if any amenities, etc. Hopefully, when/if this is all over we (the USA) can have our very own Nuremberg trials. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/869 "2025-07-10T06:56:56Z")
This was posted yesterday by Homeland Security. An official statement from a government agency. What the hell does it even mean? Are they trying to look cool or edgy or something? Jesus. [![](https://i.imgur.com/E2prV8v.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/E2prV8v.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/870 "2025-07-10T07:15:19Z")
There’s a very old meme format on the 'net (going back, I don’t know, fifteen years or so?) that started with that skeleton lifting weights. The original version said something like “my body is a machine that turns pain into strength” or some such. People immediately jumped onto it with variations like “my body is a machine that turns Taco Bell into diarrhea.” And then there were the political variations like “my body is a machine that turns Nazis into corpses.” So this is just Trump’s gang of thuggish trolls engaging in some gleeful juvenile chain-yanking. Mature statesmanship at its finest. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/871 "2025-07-10T13:42:57Z")
Does anyone at ICE even bother enforcing the customs laws or are they just spending all their time and money on deportations? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/872 "2025-07-10T14:02:20Z")
I guessing these days the vast majority is just deport deport deport. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/873 "2025-07-10T15:24:39Z")
Wouldn’t “customs laws” include tariffs? The ICE expansion could be planning for that as well as their regular Gestapo duties. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/874 "2025-07-10T22:18:58Z")
Federal judge in New Hampshire issues nation-wide injunction against enforcing Trump’s order against birth citizenship. Difference from previous case is this is a class action, which apparently makes a difference. > **[Federal judge issues new nationwide block against Trump’s order seeking to...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/10/politics/birthright-citizenship-hearing-rhode-island)** > > A federal judge agreed Thursday to issue a new nationwide block against President Donald Trump’s executive order seeking to end birthright citizenship. ETA: oops. Posted this in wrong thread. Put in the Casa thread instead. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/875 "2025-07-10T22:32:40Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > So this is just Trump’s gang of thuggish trolls engaging in some gleeful juvenile chain-yanking. Thanks for the explanation. I wonder how many MAGA actually know what it means. I’m guessing they would love it on a t-shirt, though. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/876 "2025-07-11T00:57:35Z")
Canadian who lived in the US since age 3, working with green card, denied re-entry to US after trip to visit relatives in Canada. Green card cancelled due to old marijuana charges in 2004 and 2007, for which he pled guilty and paid fines. Although not eligible to vote, he supported Trump in the election. > **[New Hampshire resident and Canadian citizen stuck in Canada after U.S. border...](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/new-hampshire-resident-and-canadian-citizen-stuck-in-canada-after-u-s-border-patrol-refuses-reentry)** > > Chris Landry was stopped crossing the into Maine, accompanied by three of his children after a visit with extended family in N.B. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/877 "2025-07-11T01:31:14Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Although not eligible to vote, he supported Trump in the election. Leopards. Faces. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/878 "2025-07-12T00:03:53Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Although not eligible to vote, he supported Trump in the election. His chances of being allowed back into the U.S., so long as the current administration is in power, would be slim to none if he didn’t say that. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/879 "2025-07-12T00:12:42Z")
I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance in hell of being let back in under the current administration. He’s not rich, he’s no one important, he doesn’t have powerful friends. He’s screwed and he needs to wrap his head around the notion that he will probably never be able to return to the US, he’s going to be spending the rest of his life in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/880 "2025-07-12T00:28:59Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > he’s going to be spending the rest of his life in Canada. You say that as if it’s a _bad_ thing! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=45)