# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/881 "2025-07-12T00:44:31Z")
Except that this person has a partner, five children, a job and (presumably) a house in New Hampshire. So either they all have to move to Canada or the children will need to travel to visit him. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/882 "2025-07-12T00:55:08Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So either they all have to move to Canada You say that as if it’s a _bad_ thing! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/883 "2025-07-12T08:56:57Z")
Yeah, it’s a bad thing because it has split a family and _at best_ going forward there will be great disruption in their lives. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/884 "2025-07-12T14:14:33Z")
If he’s white, with a white family, Trump might let him back in. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/885 "2025-07-12T14:39:24Z")
Perhaps now this guy will favor Trump’s plan to make Canada the 51st state? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/886 "2025-07-12T15:03:13Z")
At least he wasn’t detained for several weeks and _then_ kicked out, which has happened to others trying to cross the border with green cards and visas. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/887 "2025-07-12T17:00:43Z")
BTW as long as I remember, people lawfully in the visa or “green card” system have been advised that ANY record of a run-in with the Law can throw their status up in the air at any time. They must be extra aware of this now. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/888 "2025-07-13T01:25:32Z")
ICE agents handcuff and detain 71-year-old U.S. citizen [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/V2eV8L9WYwI/maxresdefault.jpg "ICE agents handcuff and detain 71-year-old U.S. citizen") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2eV8L9WYwI) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/889 "2025-07-13T02:31:41Z")
Because of course they would. This is Trumpworld, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/890 "2025-07-13T02:53:46Z")
And King Donald has announced that he’s giving serious thought to stripping Rosie O’Donnell of her citizenship. That would be US-born Rosie O’Donnell. Because once you’re king, you can do that. > **[Trump says he's considering 'taking away' Rosie O'Donnell's US citizenship](https://apnews.com/article/trump-rosie-odonnell-citizenship-835642a4d55a7897663c6ba89f42e606)** > > President Donald Trump says he is considering revoking actress and comedian Rosie O’Donnell’s U.S. citizenship. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/891 "2025-07-13T15:21:21Z")
There is that birthright thing. You can jail or execute people that act againsts the state. But they will all die as Americans. You can only strip immigrants, and even there only for acts prior to being a citizen. Such as being a NAZI prison guard. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/892 "2025-07-13T15:24:18Z")
I don’t think King Donald knows or cares. Even if he doesn’t carry through with Rosie, it’s just one more authoritarian threat to keep people scared. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/893 "2025-07-13T15:28:22Z")
And another idiotic statement to impress his idiotic fanbase. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/894 "2025-07-13T15:32:06Z")
Until he strips _their_ citizenship, of course. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/895 "2025-07-13T16:47:47Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > That would be US-born Rosie O’Donnell. > > Because once you’re king, you can do that. I question this. O’Donnell seems to be seeking Irish citizenship, but press reports say she is now an American only. Carrying out Trump’s threat would render her stateless, and doing that is seriously against international law. Even the king of Saudi Arabia is supposed to run controversial decisions by a religious commission. And AFAIK every other current king has less power than he does. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/896 "2025-07-13T16:57:32Z")
Who’s going to stop him? His toadies on the Supreme Court? He’s already issued an exec order stripping babies born in the US of their citizenship. Stripping his political opponents of their citizenship is a logical next step. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/897 "2025-07-13T17:08:32Z")
There are several levels of wrong with Trump’s statements on O’Donnell. One, she is a U.S.-born U.S. citizen, so stripping her of her citizenship for spurious reasons is so far beyond legal and customary that even Trump’s backers might pause. Two, the issue of rendering her stateless. Three, the actual mechanism. Trump’s words are off the cuff and not thought through, so it’s not like this is an actual issue on the table, but it seems there’s always someone out there working to make his dumb remarks into policy. My takeaway is that this administration is working with the ideas of restricting and removing citizenship, and also having ICE arrest and even “deport” citizens without due process or any real regard. They can’t really reform citizenship laws like this, because there’s no precedent, no law, and no policy, but they can introduce, and are introducing, chaos around this area. If I were O’Donnell, I’d rest assured that my citizenship was safe, but I’d also be afraid to enter the USA on any passport. In other words, they can’t take her citizenship, but they can flag her identity in such a way that she can’t use it, though I’m sure she’s still on the hook for taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/898 "2025-07-13T17:53:29Z")
As for point one, he’s already stripping babies of their US citizenship. For point two, his exec order may have the result in individual cases of creating stateless babies. Obviously, neither point one nor two is a problem for Trump. As for point three, he has flunkies who do his bidding. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/899 "2025-07-13T18:00:23Z")
Last week, a judge ruled in a class action case to block the executive order ending birthright citizenship. The Supreme Court decision that limited the ability of district courts to impose rulings that stand nationwide apparently left open the ability of district court judges to rule on class action suits. So that’s probably going to be the tactic going forward. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/900 "2025-07-13T20:29:15Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > O’Donnell seems to be seeking Irish citizenship, but press reports say she is now an American only. Carrying out Trump’s threat would render her stateless, and doing that is seriously against international law. Trump doesn’t give a f\*\*\* about US law, much less international. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=46)