# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/81 "2025-01-29T01:55:20Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Just had our staff meeting at work. I’m a teacher. > > They told us if anyone, anyone at all, comes to the school to look for any student or inquires about any student, only send them to the principal. > [@Smapti](#): > > Our county sheriff, who is a former social worker who ran against and beat a maga anti-vaxer in 2022, announced on Facebook a few days ago that the department’s policy is to not cooperate with ICE in any way. I think we’re going to see a lot of resistance similar to the above, across the United States. Red state or blue state, it doesn’t matter when the authorities show up for _your_ students, for _your_ workers, for _your_ fellow churchgoers, for people you _know_ are actually American citizens, and the list goes on. You _know_ these people, many times personally, and you care about them. In the end, Trump, from his perch on high, doesn’t see them the way you do. He sees a great amorphous glob of people, none of whom is distinguishable from any other. You’re on the ground, so you see them as individuals, and you’re going to do what you can to protect those in your circle. I imagine many Americans will too. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/82 "2025-01-29T02:19:36Z")
[Boston Mayor Wu has been asked to testify](https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/boston-mayor-michelle-wu-sanctuary-cities-congress/) at a Congressional hearing on sanctuary cities. Not subpoenaed – yet. > Wu told reporters Tuesday that she and her administration “will respond in due time.” > > House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky, launched a probe Monday into “the policies of sanctuary jurisdictions and their impact on public safety and federal immigration enforcement.” > > … > > In the [letter to Wu](https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Sanctuary-City-Doc-Request-and-Witness-Invite-Boston.pdf), Comer said, “Boston is a sanctuary jurisdiction that refuses to fully cooperate with federal immigration enforcement” and that all four cities “stand out in their abject failure to comply with federal law.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/83 "2025-01-29T03:01:54Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > To my knowledge, the people who are living and working here are largely treated fairly and well. We’re not talking slavery.° Likewise, the economics of the situation would say that, in the short run, we’ll just be hurting ourselves by removing a substantial workforce that we don’t have a replacement for. Why don’t we have a replacement for them? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/84 "2025-01-29T03:34:41Z")
Perhaps if they want the city of Boston to enforce federal immigration law they should cut a check. I hope Wu tells them as much. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/85 "2025-01-29T03:57:08Z")
She’s more likely, politely phrased, to tell them to fuck right off. I expect 45/47 to try to punish Boston and other sanctuary cities/states by cutting all possible federal funding. ETA: I read somewhere that there are plans to force local/state law enforcement to participate in deportation roundups by declaring them federalized deputies or some such thing. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/86 "2025-01-29T05:00:45Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Whoa, nice sheriff you got there! I’ve never liked the idea of sheriff being an elected office, but we got lucky when he decided to run. His predecessor went hard maga during the pandemic and was facing accusations of driving drunk on the job and using his position to cover up an accident he caused while intoxicated. I met him awhile back when he came to my grocery store looking for a missing teenager, and he was super friendly and didn’t try to act tough and intimidating like most cops do. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/87 "2025-01-29T21:07:49Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Itinerant agricultural workers (both permitted and ‘illegal’) are often required to work in harsh conditions with minimal protective equipment, frequently without mandatory breaks, adequate shade/shelter, OJI coverage, and any kind of job security or protection from abuse. I’ve actually worked with immigrant agricultural workers picking apples (which is certainly one of the ‘better’ jobs) and it is hard fucking work that requires care and some skill in handling the fruit without bruising or gauging it, and while I wouldn’t describe the treatment as ‘harsh’, t I also worked on a project with the US treasury on migrant farm workers. The work _is hard_, and in all but the worst weather. Of course here in CA, the weather is often pretty nice. CA does insist on work & meal breaks, water and potties. Some employers.contractors provide meals. A good fast pro worker can earn quite a bit doing piecework, during that season- we figured it out and if they were able to work like that FT all year, they’d earn over $60K- and that was in the late 1980’s. Mind you- they dont get rear 'round work like that. So, pay isnt bad-w_hile they are woking,_ work conditions range for ideal to too damn hot, but yeah, it is backbreaking labor. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Well and shoplifting is just a crime in most states because the other ones won’t follow California’s lead on decriminilization! CA changed that. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > We can imagine justifications for any particular unlawful activity Altho _entering_ the country illegally is a crime, being here without proper documentation is not a crime, _per se_. Yes, they can be deported, but it isnt an actual crime leading to indictment, trials, juries, etc. And many undocumented aliens entered the USA totally legally. Asylum, visas, etc. > [@Zakalwe](#): > > If you don’t think this is going to MAJORLY fuck with the food supply in this country, then you have very little understanding of the realities of agricultural in this country. Fresh produce anyway will get expensive. Americans eat mostly corn and wheat, which is almost entirely mechanized. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > My understanding is that enforcing immigration law is outside the jurisdiction of the city or state. Correct. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Why don’t we have a replacement for them? Believe it or not, it takes skills to pick produce (as an example) quickly and properly. It is also really hard work, and temporary. Farmers have tried to get an all american workforce, and they cant do it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/88 "2025-01-29T21:09:45Z")
Every day I check this thread…and every day I am highly disappointed to find out that Trump has not yet been deported. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/89 "2025-01-29T21:09:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Farmers have tried to get an all american workforce, and they cant do it. Exactly my point. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/90 "2025-01-29T21:38:58Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Altho _entering_ the country illegally is a crime, being here without proper documentation is not a crime, _per se_. Yes, they can be deported, but it isnt an actual crime leading to indictment, trials, juries, etc. There are and have been indictments, trials, and juries. It’s allowed to be treated as a crime or as the start of a removal procedure. Maybe there’s some better word but I’d generally take it as “illegal” and “criminal” are different words. It’s illegal for the President to fire Inspector Generals without 30 days warning to Congress, but it’s not criminal. It’s opposed to the demands of the law; it is illegal. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/91 "2025-01-29T21:47:37Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > It’s allowed to be treated as a crime Where are you getting ‘an unlawful act can be treated as a criminal act’ from exactly? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/92 "2025-01-29T22:07:34Z")
It’s a bit nuanced, but here’s a good resource that explains the legalities of a few relevant actions: > **[Prosecuting People for Coming to the United States](https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigration-prosecutions)** > > Over the last two decades, the federal government increasingly has utilized the criminal courts to punish people for immigration violations. This overview provides basic information about entry-related offenses, including the significant costs... ETA: and the original [**11pp PDF**](https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/research/prosecuting_people_for_coming_to_the_united_states.pdf) from 8/2021. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/93 "2025-01-29T22:37:31Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > It’s a bit nuanced, but here’s a good resource that explains the legalities of a few relevant actions: > > [https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigration-prosecutions](https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigration-prosecutions) _federal officials are vigorously prosecuting migrants either for entering the United States without permission or for reentering the country without permission after a prior deportation or removal order (commonly referred to, respectively, as “illegal entry” and “illegal re-entry;”_…T_he government’s approach to charging migrants with these entry-related offenses imposes heavy costs on both the migrants themselves and the federal government._ Yes- _entering_ the USA illegally is a crime. _Being_ in the USA without proper documentation is not. _Physical presence in the United States without proper authorization is a civil violation, rather than a criminal offense._ Good cite, however. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/94 "2025-01-29T23:17:50Z")
Trump believes he’s identified a place with enough vacancy to be useful in this project: > **[Trump directs Guantanamo Bay to be prepared to host up to 30,000 migrants |...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/29/politics/guantanamo-bay-trump-migrants/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed a memorandum directing the federal government to prepare the US Naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to house tens of thousands of migrants. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/95 "2025-01-29T23:20:01Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3Q_F4S44OaE/maxresdefault.jpg "President Trump on 30,000 Person Migrant Facility at Guantanamo Bay") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q_F4S44OaE) ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/96 "2025-01-29T23:27:34Z")
Puerto Rican U S citizens detained, later released. > **[ICE Says 'Sorry' After Detaining US Citizens for Speaking Spanish: Report](https://www.latintimes.com/ice-says-sorry-after-detaining-us-citizens-speaking-spanish-report-573967)** > > A Puerto Rican family, all US citizens, was wrongfully detained by ICE in Milwaukee after speaking Spanish. Brian ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/97 "2025-01-29T23:39:42Z")
Que linda me la traiga Cuba La reina de la Mar Caribe Cielo sol no tiene sangreahi Y que triste que no puedo vaya oh va, oh va [**Translation**](https://translate.google.com/?ui=tob&sl=es&tl=en&text=Que%20linda%20me%20la%20traiga%20Cuba%0ALa%20reina%20de%20la%20Mar%20Caribe%0ACielo%20sol%20no%20tiene%20sangreahi%0AY%20que%20triste%20que%20no%20puedo%20vaya%20oh%20va%2C%20oh%20va%0A&op=translate) [**SOURCE**](https://youtu.be/ZGT0P0XJRFM?t=388) ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/98 "2025-01-29T23:45:36Z")
All Latinos need to keep their papers handy just in case they get rounded up. School kids should have emergency plans to contact parents when they get scooped up at school. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/99 "2025-01-30T00:53:08Z")
I’m skeptical that the Guantanamo Base can house 30,000 migrants. I _think_ the detention center set up after 9/11 could host _hundreds_ of people but being able to house and feed 30,000 seems a lot harder. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/100 "2025-01-30T00:54:53Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > house and feed Objection. Assumes intentions not in evidence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=6)