# The Trump deportation news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 25, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404 "2025-01-25T23:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1061 "2025-10-07T19:11:48Z")
[Ghana faces growing criticism over US deportee agreement](https://www.dw.com/en/ghana-faces-growing-criticism-over-us-deportee-agreement/a-74139561) From what I can see, President Mahama is a good man. [I recommend his book.](https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/my-first-coup-detat-9781608198863/) This latest news (read first link in this post) illustrates how, so far, most foreign governments seem very reluctant to get on Trump’s bad side. We see here that foreign leaders doing Trump’s bidding may start to backfire on them. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1062 "2025-10-09T14:21:48Z")
I’d like to ask this as an actual, not rhetorical, question: There are lots of stories of US Citizens being detained in these raids, sometimes for multiple days. In the recent high profile Chicago raid, they even broke down the door and detained a black woman born here and having a clear US accent (so I read on the BBC yesterday; I can try to find a cite if someone demands). Surely, whatever limits there may be on illegal alien rights, such people have all the normal and usual rights regardless of whether it’s an ICE raid? Have these people no recourse? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1063 "2025-10-09T14:23:56Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Have these people no recourse? With a government that cares about laws and due process, of course they have recourse. We don’t have that government. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1064 "2025-10-10T02:35:26Z")
I wish there was a coalition of attorneys who would bring lawsuits on behalf of each and every person who is a victim of this regime. To step up to all “the shit that’s flooding the zone”, item by item. The zone flooding is working as planned, and I think fighting every instance of it would go a long way. Of course, not having a law degree myself, I have no right to volunteer another person’s time but I think it’s something that Dems should work on. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1065 "2025-10-12T15:43:12Z")
> **[“Why Sergio?”: Deportation ends 36-year dream for celebrated Waco chef](https://www.texastribune.org/2025/10/07/texas-waco-chef-deported-sergio-garcia-ice-undocumented/)** > > Sergio Garcia built a wide following for his regional Mexican cuisine over the decades, becoming a favorite of the White House press corps visiting Waco during the Bush presidency. Then in March, ICE came looking for him. > He was a well-known business owner who had won an international following in the years when President George W. Bush brought hordes of journalists and politicians to Waco. > **[Chef who used to cater events for President George W Bush gets deported](https://katv.com/news/nation-world/chef-who-used-to-cater-events-for-president-george-w-bush-gets-deported-donald-trump-dhs-white-house)** > > A well-known chef in Texas who used to cater events for former Republican President George W. Bush was recently deported. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1066 "2025-10-12T17:28:25Z")
Between old people and covid, and Latinos and deportation, the GOP is working hard to get rid of people who supported them (footnote: overall, Latinos still support the Dems, but that support took a big hit under Trump). ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1067 "2025-10-13T15:31:05Z")
And here’s part of what has been a big deal with the failure of attempts at immigration reform from both sides of the aisle. For decades, “administrative” violations and other technically disqualifying infractions had been addressed by _looking the other way_. “We’re busy enough with _real_ criminals,” they’d tell you. BUT all that meant was that millions of people who were known to be here and working now had a technically removal-worthy flag in their record, legally valid and hanging over their heads because with that flagging they could not complete naturalization or even residence. Many influential sectors LIKED it that way. A great way to deal with anyone who may cause trouble. And they made clear anyone, from W to Biden, proposing to fix it would be known as “the one who amnestied millions, causing millions more to head this way.” So it remained this way until someone came who _wanted_ to use the tool. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1068 "2025-10-14T10:05:24Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > There are lots of stories of US Citizens being detained in these raids, sometimes for multiple days. In the recent high profile Chicago raid, they even broke down the door and detained a black woman born here and having a clear US accent (so I read on the BBC yesterday; I can try to find a cite if someone demands). > > Surely, whatever limits there may be on illegal alien rights, such people have all the normal and usual rights regardless of whether it’s an ICE raid? Have these people no recourse? In theory - yes, their constitutional rights are being violated In practice - not so much. Most of those detained (so far) are not wealthy and can’t afford to hire the sort of lawyers required to fight this, Also, many and repeated violations in a short period of time. Overloaded courts. Last night I heard (I have not yet confirmed - my computer died and I’ve been off-line until this morning) that ICE prevented an ambulance from assisting or transporting an injured protester and threatened to shoot the driver. Perhaps someone more connected can look into this. Anyhow, if that’s where we are - that ICE can threaten to shoot first responders for attempting to do their job and help an injured protester - I question if any citizen detained for several hours is going to get justice of any sort. The ICE act without warrant, without needing to identify themselves, and more and more aggressively and hostile. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1069 "2025-10-14T12:21:37Z")
I am surprised ICE can threaten first responders. But the police (all the police, not just ICE) have a lot of leeway in trying to do their job. I doubt the citizens have any legal recourse to having a door broken down here or being detained for a few days there. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1070 "2025-10-14T13:46:57Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Last night I heard (I have not yet confirmed - my computer died and I’ve been off-line until this morning) that ICE prevented an ambulance from assisting or transporting an injured protester and threatened to shoot the driver. The incident was detailed in a written report from Sunday, October 5th. > **[Federal officers delayed, threatened to ‘shoot and arrest’ ambulance crew at...](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2025/10/federal-officers-delayed-threatened-to-shoot-and-arrest-ambulance-crew-at-portland-ice-facility-report-says.html?outputType=amp)** > > Willamette Week reported federal agents allegedly blocked an ambulance from quickly leaving with an injured protester on Oct. 5. > American Medical Response employees made those claims in internal incident reports, Willamette Week wrote. The documents detail a heated exchange at the [South Portland building](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2025/10/cyclists-in-the-buff-and-in-costume-mix-with-wet-weather-at-portland-ice-protest-get-caught-up.html) [_ICE facility - b_], with one federal agent threatening to “shoot and arrest” one of the medics, the medic wrote in a report obtained by Willamette Week. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1071 "2025-10-14T13:50:46Z")
Thanks for the confirmation, I appreciate it. Normally I do my own homework but, as I said, I’m having computer issues right now. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1072 "2025-10-14T13:54:15Z")
No worries. I was curious about it myself. It’s interesting to me that this incident is not getting more run, though maybe it’s early yet. **[This appears to be the first release of the report into the media](https://www.wweek.com/news/2025/10/12/documents-allege-a-federal-agent-at-portland-ice-threatened-to-shoot-an-ambulance-driver/)**, from the evening of Sunday, October 12th. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1073 "2025-10-14T14:04:03Z")
The article says the argument about taking the guy to the hospital continued long enough that the driver put the vehicle in park, making it lunch slightly, and the ICR agent thought it was at attempt to drive into him, which prompted the death threat. That’s less bad, although preventing the driver from leaving expeditiously is pretty bad by itself. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1074 "2025-10-14T16:07:50Z")
And I assume nobody can identify the person who made the criminal death threat, because the ICE thugs are masked when they are committing their crimes. Which is the purpose of the masking. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1075 "2025-10-14T18:11:58Z")
If AMR.(ambulance company) has amy kind of obstruction of harrassment case, I hope they pursue it. I am not suee what the laws are on interfering with first responders in a medical emergency; but as said above, these assholes are getting more violent and hostile daily and they need to be checked. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1076 "2025-10-14T18:35:47Z")
I spent 8 years as an EMT. When I shared this story on Facebook, I included this comment: > [@](#): > > Luckily, every cop I ever encountered on a scene was professional and willing to accommodate us as much as they were legally able to. That sometimes stepped on what we felt was best, but if there was an issue, they were always willing to take the time to explain to us exactly what the situation was from their perspective. Usually they would defer to our judgment for the patient, but if not, they were nothing but professional and understanding to our opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1077 "2025-10-14T18:38:04Z")
I wonder what would have happened if the ambulance driver turned on the siren. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1078 "2025-10-14T20:34:50Z")
[A woman playing a clarinet at the ICE protest in Portland has been arrested.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ghostbusters-playing-clarinetist-detained-at-ice-facility-protest/ar-AA1Oscwn) She’s in the Clark County (Washington!) jail, being held without charge. > “It is a beautiful party atmosphere. Everybody’s really excited. Then the band hits into ‘Ghostbusters’, and then at ‘Ghostbusters’, that’s when ICE start storming in,” the husband said. “Why are they targeting a clarinet player? A clarinet player standing on the sidewalk far away from the street, following instructions.” ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1079 "2025-10-14T20:38:58Z")
Maybe they’ll all be playing the Kennedy Center? Or Alcatraz? [**Musicians show support for longtime Utah violinist detained by ICE**](https://www.npr.org/2025/08/30/nx-s1-5523773/john-shin-utah-violinist-ice-immigration-trump) 🎶 [“If there’s a deportee heaven, you know they got a helluva’ band”] 🎶 ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404/1080 "2025-10-14T20:41:39Z")
Seems like a serious lawsuit in the making – false arrest, false imprisonment, human trafficking. In the old US, you couldn’t just arrest someone for nothing, whisk them across state lines to be held in a local county jail without charges. Too bad that’s no longer the case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-deportation-news-thread/1013404.md?page=55)