# The Trump era - what's surprised you the most?

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**Created:** [June 17, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-era-whats-surprised-you-the-most/816246 "2018-06-17T03:38:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-era-whats-surprised-you-the-most/816246/83 "2018-06-19T01:50:13Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t know. But from your statements, it’s clear that your views on liberalism on very inaccurate. And your inaccurate view is a very negative one. So I’m assumed it was from some conservative source like Breitbart, Matt Drudge, Glenn Beck, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, or Michelle Malkin who present a negative and inaccurate view of liberalism.

I wonder if you remember this exchange we had a while back:

> [@February jobs report](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/february-jobs-report/810310/13):
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> You really are completely clueless about what people think outside of your conservative bubble, aren’t you?
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> Non-conservatives, even liberals, love America just as much as conservatives do. Our opposition to Trump isn’t based on some childish whim. It’s based on our belief, supported by ongoing evidence, that he is harming America. We oppose Trump because we love America.

> [@February jobs report](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/february-jobs-report/810310/15):
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> :rolleyes:

> [@February jobs report](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/february-jobs-report/810310/22):
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> What does your emoji mean here? Are you standing by your belief that liberals hate America and you’re skeptical of my claim to the contrary?

> [@February jobs report](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/february-jobs-report/810310/23):
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> The eyeroll was directed at “your conservative bubble”. It strikes me as a particularly stupid charge to level against anyone who regularly posts on the SDMB.

> [@February jobs report](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/february-jobs-report/810310/24):
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> Your post is my cite. If you were listening to what other people here were saying, you wouldn’t have cause to write things like “I suspect with dismay by more than a few Dopers”.
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> But you wrote that. So it appears you just come here to repeat things you heard on right wing sites and don’t bother paying attention to what anyone else says. And that means I’m standing by “your conservative bubble” until you show some signs it isn’t accurate.

> [@February jobs report](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/february-jobs-report/810310/40):
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> > [@February jobs report](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/february-jobs-report/810310/13):
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> > … Non-conservatives, even liberals, love America just as much as conservatives do. …
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> BTW, this is false (at least according to [a 2015 YouGov poll](https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/02/24/obama-patriotism/)):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Broken down along ideological lines, liberals (13%) are more likely than either moderates (5%) or conservatives (4%) to say that they do not love America. 90% of conservatives say that they love America, compared to 85% of moderates and 82% of liberals.

After reviewing that conversation, and the cite I provided within, would you say that your view of liberals (that they “love America just as much as conservatives do”) is more accurate or less accurate than my view of liberals (that conservatives have a slight edge on them in the “love America” department)?

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