# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 102
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2021 "2019-10-07T02:15:22Z")
> [@Philliam](#): > > Just an FYI, but while watching the LA/SL baseball game the net work played a Trump ad (filled as usual with dis-information) about Joe Biden. TBS has no comment line available to complain about the inappropriate nature of political ads during a non-partisan event, but I can only imagine we are going to see more of this. TBS network - you’re on notice that this kind of advertising is not going to be viewed favorably. If it was the ad by Trump’s campaign, the one about “the swamp hate me” attacking Biden and Pelosi (it’s new enough to mention impeachment) then I saw it too. Came on during the Cowboys/Packers game. It’ll likely change everyone’s mind. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2022 "2019-10-07T03:58:11Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Hmmm. I respect any primary voter’s decision, whatever it is, on how to weigh the various factors — perceived electability, gut feeling, charisma, alignment with favorite issues… > > I just would love for each voter to spend one week each in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, talking and listening to whomever they meet, before making their decision. I get it. You’re in the pocket of Big Travel Agency. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2023 "2019-10-07T06:07:48Z")
> [@Philliam](#): > > Just an FYI, but while watching the LA/SL baseball game the net work played a Trump ad (filled as usual with dis-information) about Joe Biden. TBS has no comment line available to complain about the inappropriate nature of political ads during a non-partisan event, but I can only imagine we are going to see more of this. TBS network - you’re on notice that this kind of advertising is not going to be viewed favorably. I’m seeing ads for both Trump and Matt Bevin (I live in Kentucky) playing during commercial breaks on Hulu, and in-between levels of various games on my phone. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2024 "2019-10-07T07:29:21Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > As blind squirrels go, that lyin’ snake is a busy little beaver. Yeah, but don’t forget: _“Even lying squirrels are blind beaver-snakes twice an acorn.”_ ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2025 "2019-10-07T08:00:39Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > URL=“[https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/warren-beats-biden-national-poll-1510726](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/warren-beats-biden-national-poll-1510726)”]Biden is starting to lose ground to Warren. If his own gaffe-ridden campaigning wasnt enough to get us to this point, Ukrainegate sure as hell is. I’m not saying he’s out for the count, but I question how anyone can be confident in his electability with today’s current events. And when I say electability, I’m talking about both the primary and general. Also, can we finally retire the ridiculous adding of “-gate” to name any government scandal? In the tradition of Dan Savage and “Santorum” I hereby decree that this scandal shall be called “Ukrainetrump” and from this point forward, all scandals shall be named in this manner. Usage guide: if, for example, another scandal is centered on the Watergate apartments in DC the ensuing hullabaloo shall be dubbed “Watergate-trump” or possibly “Water-trump” but never just “Watergate” or even “Watergate-gate” although the last one is cute. I’m actually kinda serious about this. I would love to see it stick. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2026 "2019-10-07T08:09:30Z")
> [@Philliam](#): > > Just an FYI, but while watching the LA/SL baseball game the net work played a Trump ad (filled as usual with dis-information) about Joe Biden. TBS has no comment line available to complain about the inappropriate nature of political ads during a non-partisan event, but I can only imagine we are going to see more of this. TBS network - you’re on notice that this kind of advertising is not going to be viewed favorably. There were several Trumpy ads during NBC Sunday Night Football, too. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2027 "2019-10-07T10:10:46Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Yep. Totally serious. I don’t think you and others recognize that Biden has been running a dual race for this entire time. He’s the only Democratic candidate that’s running a primary and a general election campaign simultaneously. Do you see Trump coming at Warren like he comes at Biden, day after day after day? I don’t. Warren has never been tested in a general election. Biden has. He’s already running in one. Sure, he might running a primary and general campaign simultaneously, but…so what? He’s hitting the ropes right now in both of those campaigns. The right is giving him the Hillary treatment months too soon if he’s trying to win this thing. And tested? He failed the last two times he ran for nomination. Which is exactly why I kind of want to shake Biden supporters by the shoulders. Just because Trump thinks Biden is the man to beat him, that doesn’t mean Dems must treat that as evidence of something important and vote accordingly. Trump is a stupid, misogynistic, racist narcissist, declining into senility. Of course he’s going to feel threatened by another old white man who has establishment credentials. He thinks everyone (who matters) thinks like he does because he’s the king of projection. That’s as deep as he goes. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2028 "2019-10-07T13:12:22Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I get it. > > You’re in the pocket of Big Travel Agency. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2029 "2019-10-07T14:10:49Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Also, can we finally retire the ridiculous adding of “-gate” to name any government scandal? In the tradition of Dan Savage and “Santorum” I hereby decree that this scandal shall be called “Ukrainetrump” and from this point forward, all scandals shall be named in this manner. I feel you. Objectively speaking, it is ridiculous. But appending -gate to political scandals is an American tradition at this point. 100 years from now, people are still probably going to be doing it. There is something cool about that to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2030 "2019-10-07T14:18:36Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > I feel you. Objectively speaking, it is ridiculous. But appending -gate to political scandals is an American tradition at this point. 100 years from now, people are still probably going to be doing it. There is something cool about that to me. NY Times op-ed writer William Safire started the tradition with “Lancegate” — named after Carter’s budget director Bert Lance — In 1977. There has never been _anything cool_ about William Safire. The guy wrote Spiro Agnew’s speeches, for chrissake. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2031 "2019-10-07T14:26:54Z")
I’m getting sick of pundits saying that Donald is the most corrupt president in modern history. True but unnecessarily restrictive. He is the most corrupt president EVER. Full stop. The dumbest EVER. The most evil EVER. Modern history my ass, it’s all of history. Moscow Mitch says he’ll kill it in the Senate. That’s what he says now. After the House hearings, if 80%+ are in favor of conviction, they’ll convict. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2032 "2019-10-07T14:29:33Z")
Tax records being released … I wonder if anything there will impact public opinions as well. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2033 "2019-10-07T14:31:11Z")
Splitting hairs here: Taxes ordered by a judge to be released. (I’ll believe that they’re being released when they are released. 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2034 "2019-10-07T14:55:47Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Splitting hairs here: Taxes ordered by a judge to be released. (I’ll believe that they’re being released when they are released. 😃 ) Given that the issue deals with the extent of executive power, I imagine this will be going to the Supreme Court. I wonder how they’ll rule. Will they rule that the president has “absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind.”? Or will they just say that this is the case if the president is a Republican? I mean will they say this out loud? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2035 "2019-10-07T15:07:33Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > He is the most corrupt president EVER. Full stop. Harding and Grant do come close, but it isn’t a contest. > [@](#): > > The dumbest EVER. Probably. > [@](#): > > The most evil EVER. Bush 2 (lied us into a war and justified torture, remember?) beats him IMHO, and so does Andrew “Trail of Tears” Jackson. He hasn’t killed nearly as many kids in his own camps. > [@](#): > > Moscow Mitch says he’ll kill it in the Senate. That’s what he says now. Only for the sake of riling up his voter base (he’s up for re-election). But it’s out of his hands once the Chief Justice has been summoned. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2036 "2019-10-07T15:43:25Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Yes the bank robbers ran out of the building with large bags of cash, but I do not make the conclusion that the only reason they did so was for financial gain. It is entirely possible that they were just testing the bank’s security. > > The supposed crimes of the Biden’s have been looked at, and there is no “there” there. That’s not my quote. I think it’s Max’s. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2037 "2019-10-07T15:43:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Not without a 2/3 vote for a rules change. Ah, thanks. Not too bloody likely then. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2038 "2019-10-07T15:48:07Z")
[The rules (PDF but not long).](https://www.law.cornell.edu/background/impeach/senaterules.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2039 "2019-10-07T16:09:54Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > There has never been _anything cool_ about William Safire. Ahem. “On Language” Or maybe that was just for linguistic/etymology geeks like me. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2040 "2019-10-07T16:11:39Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The new tact seems to be: Nevermind if Trump was wrong, Schiff is compromised and was working with the whistleblower. Therefore, nevermind if Trump was wrong. For the record, I find this new Republican idea of pointing at Mr. Schiff entirely irrelevant and unconvincing. The only concern I might possibly have with Mr. Schiff’s handling of the investigation is whether he allowed the Republicans to ask questions during the closed session hearing. If true I would ask for another hearing, not close the investigation. In my opinion, Mr. Schiff receiving a heads-up about a potential whistleblower, and advising said potential whistleblower to use the existing legal framework, is entirely acceptable and ethical conduct. In no way is this a valid reason to shut down the inquiry. ~Max [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=101) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=103)