# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 113
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2241 "2019-10-09T05:41:56Z")
How come this scandal doesn’t have a catchy name yet? Can we pin Stupid Watergate down? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2242 "2019-10-09T05:47:25Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > And by five aces, you mean five cards with the letter A written in the corner with a sharpie. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2243 "2019-10-09T06:38:59Z")
What lies between “what can be done” and “what _will_ be done” is a gap so wide Evel Knievel himself would shake his head, say “Oh, _hell_ no!” and walk away. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2244 "2019-10-09T08:12:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Try to understand this: If it doesn’t take away his money or effect him physically he just doesn’t give a flying fuck. File that lawsuit-he won’t show up and you can’t make him. Demand to see documents-he won’t hand them over and you can’t make him. Demand his cronies appear-he won’t let them and you can’t force them. I mentioned some weeks ago that he has to show up in the Capitol to give next year’s SOTU. If the Sergeant at Arms shows up loaded for bear, he can probably bring a posse who can get the drop on the SS, and cart the America-hating fuckstick off to what passes for mall jail in the Capitol. Yeah, it means a several-month delay, but it would be worth it. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2245 "2019-10-09T08:43:02Z")
They can use D.C. jails if local authorities permit it. Not part of DOJ. Barr carries no more weight there than you or I do. Err, or so I’ve heard. IANAL. Sent from my SM-S727VL using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2246 "2019-10-09T10:19:52Z")
I haven’t read the whole (45 page!) thread but why is Pelosi so afraid of giving Republicans subpoena power? AIUI, that’s one of the main reasons that she’s not bringing the inquiry up for a vote. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2247 "2019-10-09T10:40:02Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Schiff has issued a sternly worded tweet about today’s obstruction. > [Senator Adam Schiff on X: "Trump prevented a key witness from testifying today. Ambassador Sondland participated in conversations and texts about whether a White House meeting and military aid were conditioned on Ukraine’s willingness to help Trump politically. America deserves answers, not obstruction. https://t.co/uDE2rPZnMO" / X](https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1181620150946148353?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) > > [Senator Adam Schiff on X: "Trump prevented a key witness from testifying today. Ambassador Sondland participated in conversations and texts about whether a White House meeting and military aid were conditioned on Ukraine’s willingness to help Trump politically. America deserves answers, not obstruction. https://t.co/uDE2rPZnMO" / X](https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1181620150946148353/video/1) > OK man, so what are you going to DO about it?? See that the trap springs not 'Til the greedy varmint gorges On raw bait in the kill zone Muster all your patience For there will not be A second chance . ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2248 "2019-10-09T11:13:40Z")
Hey, that’s good! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2249 "2019-10-09T11:48:35Z")
The White House seems to be under the impression (or more likely they’re pretending they’re under the impression) that the House impeachment inquiry is a “trial”. This is factually false, quite obviously. It’s telling that the lies their spewing are now so incredibly obvious. It means they’ve got nothing else – not even “good” lies. But we’ll see how this affects the polling, and ultimately Republican votes in the Senate, which is what matters. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2250 "2019-10-09T12:16:19Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Remember when Republicans LOST THEIR FUCKING MINDS about Obama exerting executive privilege on one issue, not related to impeachment proceedings? > > That was so cute. Remember when Republicans got mad that Al Gore used a telephone in the White House to call possible campaign donors? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2251 "2019-10-09T12:26:52Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Remember when Republicans got mad that Al Gore used a telephone in the White House to call possible campaign donors? Or when some Chinese gave a bunch of illegal campaign donations that were rejected, and Republicans held two years of hearings about it? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2252 "2019-10-09T12:46:08Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > I haven’t read the whole (45 page!) thread but why is Pelosi so afraid of giving Republicans subpoena power? AIUI, that’s one of the main reasons that she’s not bringing the inquiry up for a vote. Because they will turn it into a Biden trial. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2253 "2019-10-09T12:46:32Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Three pages in??? So it’s not a tweet? Even better— it’s a bunch of them, all fancied up in some really official-like legalish-sounding language like them TV lawyers use. Check and mate and scatter the pieces off chessboard, Liddle’ Adam Schiff! ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2254 "2019-10-09T12:57:41Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > No worries. I could tell it was garbage halfway through the first paragraph. I could tell it was garbage based on the post the link appeared in. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2255 "2019-10-09T13:06:41Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > I haven’t read the whole (45 page!) thread but why is Pelosi so afraid of giving Republicans subpoena power? AIUI, that’s one of the main reasons that she’s not bringing the inquiry up for a vote. Because elections matter and Democrats took back the house in 2018 (in no small part a reaction to the lawlessness of this administration) she’s in charge of the House majority now. Did you have problems when Trey Gowdy was in charge of “oversight” but he spent all that time ignoring Trump and investigating Benghazi 13144 times? Did you have similar problems when Mitch McConnell blocked a Democratic Supreme Court nomination for over a year, or held up other Obama judicial nominees, things he was able to do because he was in charge of the Senate majority? Will you have a problem if he pulls similar shenanigans if the House sends him articles of impeachment? I’m pretty sure you didn’t and wouldn’t. Elections have consequences, buttercup. And Republicans worried about decorum after all the shit they pulled can bite me for every record-breaking number of filibusters they did. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2256 "2019-10-09T13:08:15Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Because they will turn it into a Biden trial. But subpoena power has to happen sooner or later doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2257 "2019-10-09T13:13:31Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > I haven’t read the whole (45 page!) thread but why is Pelosi so afraid of giving Republicans subpoena power? AIUI, that’s one of the main reasons that she’s not bringing the inquiry up for a vote. Maybe because the House rules change that effectively squashed subpoena participation by the minority party were implemented by then-majority Republicans in 2015 during the last years of the Obama administration, [over objections by the Democrats](https://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/democrats-criticize-house-gop-subpoena-rules-115068). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2258 "2019-10-09T13:14:58Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > But subpoena power has to happen sooner or later doesn’t it? So they might as well let the Republicans turn it into a Biden trial sooner? ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2259 "2019-10-09T13:16:18Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Because elections matter and Democrats took back the house in 2018 (in no small part due to the lawlessness of this administration) she’s in charge of the House majority now. > > Did you have problems when Trey Gowdy was in charge of “oversight” but he spent all that time ignoring Trump and investigating Benghazi 13144 times? > > Did you have similar problems when Mitch McConnell blocked a Democratic Supreme Court nomination for over a year, or held up other Obama judicial nominees, things he was able to do because he was in charge of the Senate majority? Will you have a problem if he pulls similar shenanigans if the House sends him articles of impeachment? > > I’m pretty sure you didn’t and wouldn’t. > > Elections have consequences, buttercup. And Republicans worried about decorum after all the shit they pulled can bite me one time for every record-breaking number of filibusters they did. “Buttercup?” Wow. You inferred quite a bit from what I believed to be an honest question. For the record, I fully support this impeachment inquiry and hope that Trump is drummed out of office in total disgrace. But to answer your questions. Yes, yes, and yes. ---
**Author:** ![phantom\_lamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@phantom\_lamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phantom_lamb)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2260 "2019-10-09T13:18:05Z")
> [@Dr.Colossus](#): > > How come this scandal doesn’t have a catchy name yet? > > Can we pin Stupid Watergate down? Zelensky rhymes with Lewinsky. I’m sure someone more creative can come up with something… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=112) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=114)