# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2321 "2019-10-10T01:35:15Z")
> [@YamatoTwinkie](#): > > Maybe because the House rules change that effectively squashed subpoena participation by the minority party were implemented by then-majority Republicans in 2015 during the last years of the Obama administration, [over objections by the Democrats](https://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/democrats-criticize-house-gop-subpoena-rules-115068). > [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Oh. > [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > She’s not “afraid” of anything, she’s operating within the rules that as **YamatoTwinkie** pointed out were rules that Republicans made when they were in charge. It occurs to me that, given the fact that the America-hating fuckstick is more a symptom than a syndrome, the most effective remedy for the prior lawlessness of the GOP legislators would be to reverse the rules changes that they made (as soul-satisfying as it would be to put them on the receiving end of their own fuckwittery). ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2322 "2019-10-10T01:48:39Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Trump said Wednesday that it would be “easy” for the United States to form new alliances if Syrian Kurds leave the fight against the Islamic State to fend off a Turkish attack, noting that > > That’s gold, Jerry!! Gold! Just wait until he finds out what Japan did! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2323 "2019-10-10T01:53:52Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > The rebuttal at the bottom of page 8 and the top of page 9 is also convincing. In short, the House does have an oversight authority to request the very same documents, but the current requests were clearly made without exercising that authority. In what way does the request NOT constitute an _exercise_ If the authority to make the request? Did you perhaps mean that the request did not explicitly _invoke_ the authority to demand that the request be honored (and complied with)? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2324 "2019-10-10T01:57:42Z")
> [@Marion\_Morrison](#): > > Oh lawd, Orange Man Bad, amirite? Most of us would have phrased it “The President has broken numerous laws and committed numerous impeachable offenses” but you can use whatever wording you’re comfortable with. Although maybe you should avoid trying to sound like Stepin Fetchit. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2325 "2019-10-10T01:58:42Z")
> [@Marion\_Morrison](#): > > The reason that’s grounds for impeachment is-? It says so in the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2326 "2019-10-10T02:07:55Z")
_Originally Posted by Donald [The Kurds] didn’t help us in the Second World War, they didn’t help us in Normandy” and were only interested in fighting for “their land"._ Yeah, when did the Kurds ever fight for America? Okay, against the Ayatollah in 1979. And against Saddam Hussein in 1983. And against Saddam Hussein a second time in 1991. And against Saddam Hussein a third time in 2003. And against the Taliban. And against Al Qaeda. And against ISIS. And against Assad. But the point is they didn’t fight in Normandy! ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2327 "2019-10-10T02:12:20Z")
> [@Marion\_Morrison](#): > > The reason that’s grounds for impeachment is-? Remember that whole “collusion” business from a couple of years ago, and how strenuously they denied the charges? And yes, it was never proven. Well, this Ukraine business is the same thing all over again more or less, only Trump and Pence have both admitted it and released the evidence of it. Soliciting foreign interference in an election is just about the creme de la creme of “high crimes”, since there is no America without free elections and foreign countries will only screw us for their benefit if they get involved. “We the People” is NOT foreign governments or oligarchs. Make sense? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2328 "2019-10-10T02:14:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > _Originally Posted by Donald > [The Kurds] didn’t help us in the Second World War, they didn’t help us in Normandy” and were only interested in fighting for “their land"._ > > Yeah, when did the Kurds ever fight for America? > > Okay, against the Ayatollah in 1979. And against Saddam Hussein in 1983. And against Saddam Hussein a second time in 1991. And against Saddam Hussein a third time in 2003. And against the Taliban. And against Al Qaeda. And against ISIS. And against Assad. > > But the point is they didn’t fight in Normandy! Come on, man. Is this thread the Trump dumping ground in Elections? Not singling you out but every news story with Trump in the title doesn’t have to be reported in the impeachment thread, does it? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2329 "2019-10-10T02:17:03Z")
> [@Marion\_Morrison](#): > > The Clinton impeachment was bad enough, this is total bullshit! 18 USC 201(b) 18 USC 201(c) 18 USC 1951 18 USC 1001 18 USC 1961 52 USC 30121 > [@](#): > > Trump’s the best president in my lifetime, all these people are doing is looking like idiots that crave power. This would imply that you’re aware of something intelligent that he has said or done at some point during his presidency. And note that, by that, it should be made clear that doing what people want him to do isn’t smart. Nor is even doing the right thing. If we all want to kill a single mosquito known to be infected with malaria, that’s in the same small room with us, the guy who says, “I know, let’s light the room on fire!”, is both working on what everyone wants and that is in fact the right thing to work on. But, he’s still an idiot. Going about the right things in the humanly worst way possible doesn’t make someone great, that anyone thinks so just demonstrates how little the average man understands the world. Feel free to suggest something that you think he has done, as President, that you think is being done in a reasonable fashion that is liable to succeed. I believe that you will find that it won’t bear much scrutiny. And note that I say this as someone who is almost completely on board with Trump’s overall policy platform. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2330 "2019-10-10T02:45:48Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Come on, man. Is this thread the Trump dumping ground in Elections? Not singling you out but every news story with Trump in the title doesn’t have to be reported in the impeachment thread, does it? Mea culpa. But I figured that in a 47-page thread, with 2000+ posts many of which were one- or two-liners, and the recent appearance of John Wayne in the red corner, a little humour wouldn’t be out of place. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2331 "2019-10-10T03:31:41Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Agreed, but when did Nostradamus get into _hextraines_? Or are those from the I Ching? I foresee that in the future, I still won’t know what a hextraine is. It was free verse that coincidentally appeared to have meter of some sort. Or if you prefer, a tumor-ridden haiku ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2332 "2019-10-10T03:48:02Z")
> [@Marion\_Morrison](#): > > The reason that’s grounds for impeachment is-? I’m not really interested in arguing that with you, as others are handling it fine. I’m just stunned by “the best president in your lifetime” bit. Assuming you don’t like Democrats at all, you really like him better than the other Republicans who have been president in recent decades? Someone who uses vulgar insults, lies constantly, doesn’t read briefings, says he will hire “the best people” but then keeps firing everyone and talking shit about how stupid they are on the way out? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2333 "2019-10-10T04:07:24Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Goodness, that is truly the dumbest thing to come out of that moron’s pie-hole — and that’s saying something. > > Where were the Kurds at the Battle of Bunker Hill? Well? _Well_? > > Goodness gracious. People are telling me the Kurds stood idly by during the Bowling Green Massacre as well. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2334 "2019-10-10T04:20:15Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > I was and am interested in pointing out to you that you didn’t understand what the word “evidence” meant, and to point out that despite your assertion that no evidence was posted, evidence actually was posted. I know what evidence is. And I say this honestly and forthrightly: you have convinced me. I was wrong. Evidence was indeed posted. Of something. IMO though, none of it was evidence of blackmail. If only someone had wanted to discuss that evidence in detail. Maybe they could have convinced me. No one has in my other thread as of yet, but it’s been a good discussion so far. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2335 "2019-10-10T04:22:52Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I’m not really interested in arguing that with you, as others are handling it fine. I’m just stunned by “the best president in your lifetime” bit… You’re being ageist. You’re clearly talking down to someone because they’re less than two and a half years old. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2336 "2019-10-10T04:28:35Z")
LOL, my bad. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2337 "2019-10-10T04:37:45Z")
> [@Marion\_Morrison](#): > > There’s no grounds to impeach Trump, and those people need to do their jobs or be hanged or go to jail. Do not post threats or state or imply that any individual or group is deserving of harm. I recommend you familiarize yourself with the rules of the board and each forum you post in. This post was made and unfortunately I missed the thread report at the time or else I would have offered you the same advice. > [@The US should stay the fuck out of the Saudia Arabia/Yemen(/Iran?) war](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-should-stay-the-fuck-out-of-the-saudia-arabia-yemen-iran-war/840501/36): > > Nuke Mecca! Fuck the Sauds. I recommend toning down your rhetoric in order to participate civilly in these forums. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2338 "2019-10-10T05:09:53Z")
Wait, we can advocate killing millions of people in Elections now and not get so much as warned for it? Sweet. Or is this one of those special privileges that only special people who belong to the same party as Bone get? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2339 "2019-10-10T05:10:21Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Come on, man. Is this thread the Trump dumping ground in Elections? Not singling you out but every news story with Trump in the title doesn’t have to be reported in the impeachment thread, does it? You’re right. A discussion of Trump’s recent policy on the Kurds isn’t really relevant to the topic of this thread and would be more appropriate in a different more general Trump thread. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2340 "2019-10-10T05:46:17Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Wait, we can advocate killing millions of people in Elections now and not get so much as warned for it? Sweet. Or is this one of those special privileges that only special people who belong to the same party as Bone get? Meh, gotta nuke something. [/Nelson muntz] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=118)