# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 126
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2501 "2019-10-11T00:33:31Z")
AP News: [Envoy to Ukraine was removed after pushback on Giuliani](https://apnews.com/01c10d68553b4d3c8a26525630c80be3) > [@](#): > > The former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine was removed from her post after insisting that Rudy Giuliani’s requests to Ukrainian officials for investigations be relayed through official channels, according to a former diplomat who has spoken with her. > … > [A] former diplomat said Yovanovitch refused to do “all this offline, personal, informal stuff” and made clear that the U.S. government had formal ways to request foreign governments’ help with investigations. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2502 "2019-10-11T00:42:03Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > AP News: [Envoy to Ukraine was removed after pushback on Giuliani](https://apnews.com/01c10d68553b4d3c8a26525630c80be3) Well no wonder they didn’t like her. They prefer sneaky back channel communication. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2503 "2019-10-11T00:49:35Z")
Has Fox put the graphic “Rudy Giuliani (D)” up yet? This has been a fun couple weeks, like Christmas morning every day. I bet the two guys they arrested are singing like canaries right now, dare we hope to see Rudy 911 hauled away in cuffs? Lock him up! ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2504 "2019-10-11T00:55:40Z")
In this face-paced, 24/7 news cycle world, it can be hard to keep up. I just want to make sure I have all the facts in place before I make a fool of myself by using the wrong terminology. Is it Rudy Collude-y or Collude-y Rudy? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2505 "2019-10-11T00:55:58Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Has Fox put the graphic “Rudy Giuliani (D)” up yet? This has been a fun couple weeks, like Christmas morning every day. I bet the two guys they arrested are singing like canaries right now, dare we hope to see Rudy 911 hauled away in cuffs? Lock him up! I heard that MSNBC had a headline saying something like “Breaking News: Arrest of Rudy Giuliani’s clients” but it was squeezed into a box that cut it off at the apostrophe (or is it a hyphen?)… ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2506 "2019-10-11T01:01:14Z")
[John Hudson](https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/status/1182457498302898176), Washington Post: > [@](#): > > Michael McKinley, a senior adviser to Pompeo, has resigned amid rising dissatisfaction and plummeting morale inside the State Department over what is seen as Pompeo’s failure to support personnel ensnared in the Ukraine controversy ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2507 "2019-10-11T01:09:37Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > _The Americans_ How you gonna keep those Americans viewers down on the farm once they’ve seen reality? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2508 "2019-10-11T01:12:03Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > U[COLOR=“Red”]k[/COLOR]raine Clown [COLOR=“red”]P[/COLOR]os[COLOR=“Green”]s[/COLOR]e “I’ll pull a bigass beehive out a tree, drop my drawers and hump it!” I see this Administration is a big fan of “Fuck the World” as well. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2509 "2019-10-11T01:20:14Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > …Never mind that these turkeys were doing Giuliani’s bidding in Ukraine, which was requested by trump. And there are pictures of them with trump so he can’t say he never met them. … > [@YamatoTwinkie](#): > > And had lunch with Giuliani at the Trump Hotel, right before getting arrested fleeing the country… > [@Dinsdale](#): > > How does Trump keep THESE schmucks from having to testify? > [@E-DUB](#): > > Sent to the Jeffrey Epstein wing? Well, who would be surprised by the news that each of them, very unfortunately, committed suicide while in custody? “Lunch with Rudy Giuliani” must have been the precipitating event for many a suicide, over the years. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2510 "2019-10-11T01:31:35Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I bet the two guys they arrested are singing like canaries right now, dare we hope to see Rudy 911 hauled away in cuffs? Lock him up! A lovely part of Rudy’s lack of official position is that he can’t hold anything over them. They can sing without consequences. Is it wrong that I’m enjoying the hell out of this? I’d ask my representative if he’s having fun yet, but in his sophomore season he’s already a regular on CNN so I can guess his answer. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2511 "2019-10-11T01:59:18Z")
When we were kids we’d argue about whether God could make a rock so big that even he couldn’t lift it. Now I wonder if Donald can commit crimes so brazen that even Barr can’t shut down the investigation. So Pompeo’s senior advisor quits because of low morale. I bet. Now I’m thinking that Republicans will force Twitler out sooner rather than later. They don’t want to have a trial and have to vote on his removal in an election year. Plus all those primaries that they cancelled- what would they do if the vacancy occurs mid-primary and nobody has delegates? Tick…tick…tick… midnight is drawing near. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2512 "2019-10-11T02:18:58Z")
At this point, I wish that I could still be hopeful but a woman named Fiona Hill is scheduled to testify to Congress on Monday and she seems to be someone who would know something and who could conceivably decide to ignore Executive Privilege. > **[Trump's former Russia aide set to give revealing testimony on Giuliani, Sondland](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-former-russia-adviser-set-give-testimony-giuliani-sondland-n1064846)** > > Fiona Hill’s appearance next week before Congress has stoked fear among people close to the president. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2513 "2019-10-11T02:33:54Z")
Those two guys look like they are connected to the Russian mob. I think it is much more likely that they have “accidents” than that they “sing”. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2514 "2019-10-11T02:55:39Z")
[Kenneth P. Vogel](https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1182481848515121152), NYTimes: > [@](#): > > Indicted pro-TRUMP Ukraine researcher LEV PARNAS told people he paid RUDY GIULIANI hundreds of thousands of dollars to work for his firm, Fraud Guarantee. > > Giuliani first seemed to admit working for the firm in 2018, then said he couldn’t confirm. > … > Here’s the full answer from RUDY GIULIANI on his work for LEV PARNAS’s company, Fraud Guarantee: “All I can tell you is that most of the Fraud Guarantee work, in fact the Fraud Guarantee work, which — or I should say — I can’t acknowledge it’s Fraud Guarantee, I don’t think.” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2515 "2019-10-11T03:01:00Z")
So, to recap, Parnas’s firm is called “Fraud Guarantee”, and Fruman’s club in Odessa is called “MAFIA RAVE”. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2516 "2019-10-11T03:14:02Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > So, to recap, Parnas’s firm is called “Fraud Guarantee”, and Fruman’s club in Odessa is called “MAFIA RAVE”. And Johnny Hitman is their “agent.” Seriously people, the writing this season is just fucking _lazy_. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2517 "2019-10-11T03:34:20Z")
I disagree. Sometimes going all in with oblivious obvious can work. I will definitely marathon watch the rest of the season. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2518 "2019-10-11T03:41:22Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > So, to recap, Parnas’s firm is called “Fraud Guarantee”, and Fruman’s club in Odessa is called “MAFIA RAVE”. Those are perhaps the most appropriate business names I’ve encountered since Snidely Whiplash carried out his dastardly schemes under the cover of a building demolition firm called “Edifice Wrecks.” ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2519 "2019-10-11T03:41:57Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > At this point, I wish that I could still be hopeful but a woman named Fiona Hill is scheduled to testify to Congress on Monday and she seems to be someone who would know something and who could conceivably decide to ignore Executive Privilege. > > [Trump's former Russia aide set to give revealing testimony on Giuliani, Sondland](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-former-russia-adviser-set-give-testimony-giuliani-sondland-n1064846) Maybe I’m a rube but this sounds big. I would not be surprised if she has some friends who might he emboldened by this to come forward. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2520 "2019-10-11T03:52:10Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Maybe I’m a rube but this sounds big. I would not be surprised if she has some friends who might he emboldened by this to come forward. I would not be surprised if Barr has her arrested before her testimony. For “disrespecting Trump” or some such. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=125) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=127)