# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 139
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2761 "2019-10-15T16:32:38Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > My only regret that Raymond Burr is not around to play William Barr and that Don Knotts isn’t here to play Giuliani. Danny DeVito for Giuliani. That [muppet dinosaur baby](https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Baby_Sinclair) will be resurrected to play Barr. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2762 "2019-10-15T16:44:04Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > The guy from Office Space? John is a _talented_ ass-clown. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2763 "2019-10-15T17:03:52Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > All I want to know is, what qualifies Rudy to receive up to $50,000 a month from someone who is now in jail? According to Rudy, " business and legal advice. " Right. Totally above board. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2764 "2019-10-15T17:09:38Z")
1. Trump asked his personal attorney to engage in official state business. 2. Trump used his official position to ask heads of state to work with his personal attorney. 3. Trump’s personal attorney has no official role in the executive branch and is therefore not subject to any of the usual checks and balances on foreign policy activities. 4. The official state business involved persuading foreign governments to investigate the family of Trump’s political rival. 5. A pro-Trump PAC received funds from Ukrainian businessmen who are now in jail on charges of election fraud. 6. Trump’s personal attorney received half a million dollars from these Ukrainian businessmen during the time that he was in Ukraine unofficially conducting US government business. Is that right? Answer the question whichever way you see fit. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2765 "2019-10-15T17:16:12Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Bolton is a homicidal bastard within normal parameters. Nailed it, you did. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2766 "2019-10-15T17:25:07Z")
This whole clusterfuck of an administration can be summed up in one simple typo: Covfefe. The Covfefe Ukraine scandal The Covfefe impeachment The Covfefe foreign policy disaster The Covfefe refugee crisis The Covfefe racist dog whistles The Covfefe cover-up ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2767 "2019-10-15T17:27:05Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Danny DeVito for Giuliani. > > That [muppet dinosaur baby](https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Baby_Sinclair) will be resurrected to play Barr. “Not Quid Pro Quo! Not Quid Pro Quo!” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2768 "2019-10-15T17:27:33Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Danny DeVito for Giuliani. > > That [muppet dinosaur baby](https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Baby_Sinclair) will be resurrected to play Barr. The muppet is [uncanny](https://i.imgur.com/6yXIUzo.jpg). If going for live actors, then [John Goodman](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dw-9qN4U8AAvysj.png) as Bill Barr, [Robert Duvall](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f7/cc/73/f7cc73a4c89d5fe58f7b5842a84c0949.jpg) as Giuliani. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2769 "2019-10-15T17:28:20Z")
Turns out that [Trey Gowdy](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-attempt-to-hire-trey-gowdy-for-legal-team-unravels-over-lobbying-rules/ar-AAIKZON?ocid=spartandhp) can’t join the team after all. Those stupid lobbying rules say no former lawmakers can communicate with or appear before their former colleagues for a year after leaving Congress. And Gowdy only retired this year, so he can’t join until 2020. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2770 "2019-10-15T18:42:24Z")
In a signal that Rudy is _not_ going to comply with the subpoena, Rudy and his attorney have officially parted ways today, the day that Rudy is due to turn over subpeonaed documents. > ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2771 "2019-10-15T18:47:13Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s absurd that a president elected by the people can be toppled by an anonymous source passing on second-hand information. You mean… like Deep Throat and Nixon…? Sorry - not only can it be done, it sort of HAS been done… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2772 "2019-10-15T19:19:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > In a signal that Rudy is _not_ going to comply with the subpoena, Rudy and his attorney have officially parted ways today, the day that Rudy is due to turn over subpeonaed documents. > > [https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1184172803634974721?s=20](https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1184172803634974721?s=20) Rudy’s attorney: “Hmmmm… My choice is to stick with Rudy and risk losing my licence at best, and going to jail at worst… OR to run away now. BYE BYE Rudy” Please please please let Rudy defend himself in the upcoming trial… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2773 "2019-10-15T19:31:06Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > You mean… like Deep Throat and Nixon…? > > Sorry - not only can it be done, it sort of HAS been done… Nitpick: Deep Throat did not “pass on second-hand information” or indeed, initiate contact with Bob Woodward. Woodward contacted him because he was stuck. Deep Throat \*\*verified \*\*information that Woodward brought to him. So this is NOT analogous to whistleblower. Also, [Mark Felt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Felt) wasn’t some random bureaucrat way down in the bowels of the system where he only had access to “second-hand information.” He was Associate Director of the FBI and was in line to replace Hoover. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2774 "2019-10-15T19:33:27Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I bet Ukraine knows! Maybe we should encourage them to investigate. It only cost $168,000 to produce the Trump dossier, of which (at least last time I looked) nothing has actually been disproven. It’s pretty damn strange to have Ukranian criminals pay Rudy $500,000 to produce a dodgy dossier on someone who isn’t even running for President. At the very least, they are overpaying by a factor of three. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2775 "2019-10-15T19:37:34Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > You mean… like Deep Throat and Nixon…? > > Sorry - not only can it be done, it sort of HAS been done… As George Conway noted today: “Someone calls 911 because they hear shots down the street at the bank. The cops show up at the bank, and sure enough, it’s been robbed, and there are numerous witnesses there who saw the crime. The suspect confesses. Normally, at this point, no one cares about who called 911.” ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2776 "2019-10-15T19:49:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > As George Conway noted today: “Someone calls 911 because they hear shots down the street at the bank. The cops show up at the bank, and sure enough, it’s been robbed, and there are numerous witnesses there who saw the crime. The suspect confesses. Normally, at this point, no one cares about who called 911.” _this_ ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2777 "2019-10-15T19:51:56Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > You are insinuating that the U.S. withheld the F-35 from Turkey for a decade and a half. There was no withholding. Of the nine original F-35 partners, six have so far received their jets. Eight of the nine partners laid out a substantial investment at the beginning of R&D for the F-35, knowing damn well that they would receive the jets they ordered at a particular time and at a particular level of technological maturity. > > You are factually wrong to imply that anyone slow-walked or delayed delivery of jets to Turkey for a particular reason during the past two decades (except for the S-400 issue which changed everything). > > You should drop this erroneous point you’re trying to make, plus apologize for trying to imply things that are outright incorrect and very misleading. I’m not insinuating nor implying anything of the sort. I gave some factually-correct information about what the IOC dates represent. That’s why the post started out “Just as a point of information…” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2778 "2019-10-15T20:00:28Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > As George Conway noted today: “Someone calls 911 because they hear shots down the street at the bank. The cops show up at the bank, and sure enough, it’s been robbed, and there are numerous witnesses there who saw the crime. The suspect confesses. Normally, at this point, no one cares about who called 911.” The first hand/second hand thing is the only straw they got, so they’re grasping like mad. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2779 "2019-10-15T20:12:05Z")
Is it Pence yet? ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2780 "2019-10-15T20:24:39Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > In a signal that Rudy is _not_ going to comply with the subpoena, Rudy and his attorney have officially parted ways today, the day that Rudy is due to turn over subpeonaed documents. > > [https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1184172803634974721?s=20](https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1184172803634974721?s=20) And, it’s confirmed. [https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/15/politics/rudy-giuliani-jon-sale-impeachment/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/15/politics/rudy-giuliani-jon-sale-impeachment/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F) His lawyer apparently delivered the letter and quit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=138) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=140)