# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 154
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3061 "2019-10-20T00:50:57Z")
Trump could still survive impeachment and still win in 2020, but his margin for error is getting slimmer and slimmer. People will eventually get over the Ukraine scandal, but like the Mueller trial, it will nibble away at the edges of support that he received from the independent voters ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3062 "2019-10-20T02:32:21Z")
This just in. . . **[President Trump drops plan to host G-7 at Doral](https://www.newsday.com/news/nation/president-trump-drops-plan-to-host-g7-at-doral-1.37699213)** Or, as Mr. Trump puts it > [@Donald J. Trump](#): > > .Therefore, based on both Media & Democrat Crazed and Irrational Hostility, we will no longer consider Trump National Doral, Miami, as the Host Site for the G-7 in 2020. We will begin the search for another site, including the possibility of Camp David, immediately. Thank you! On behalf of Crazed and Irrational Hostility everywhere, you’re quite welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3063 "2019-10-20T02:58:47Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I’ll just note that, of those four states, all four Senators from Illinois (Durbin, Duckworth) and California (Feinstein, Harris) are Democrats, as is one from Ohio (Brown). > > Of course, all four of those states have a number of GOP House members. There are only seven members of Congress from California. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3064 "2019-10-20T03:09:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > There are only seven members of Congress from California. Seven Republicans, that is. And kenobi is correct, there are a number of GOP house members. Seven is a number. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3065 "2019-10-20T03:28:37Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > This just in. . . > > **[President Trump drops plan to host G-7 at Doral](https://www.newsday.com/news/nation/president-trump-drops-plan-to-host-g7-at-doral-1.37699213)** > > Or, as Mr. Trump puts it > > On behalf of Crazed and Irrational Hostility everywhere, you’re quite welcome. Do you think a bunch of Republican senators got together and told him that THIS was just a step too far… Can’t think of many other reasons he would give in so quickly . > [@](#): > > Therefore, based on both Media & Democrat Crazed and Irrational Hostility, we will no longer consider Trump National Doral, Miami, as the Host Site for the G-7 in 2020. We’d appreciate it if you’d leave office as well, if that particular message has been lost… ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3066 "2019-10-20T04:12:26Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > This just in. . . > > **[President Trump drops plan to host G-7 at Doral](https://www.newsday.com/news/nation/president-trump-drops-plan-to-host-g7-at-doral-1.37699213)** > > Or, as Mr. Trump puts it > > > [@Donald J. Trump](#): > > > > .Therefore, based on both Media & Democrat Crazed and Irrational Hostility, we will no longer consider Trump National Doral, Miami, as the Host Site for the G-7 in 2020. We will begin the search for another site, including the possibility of Camp David, immediately. Thank you! > > On behalf of Crazed and Irrational Hostility everywhere, you’re quite welcome. Let’s see… [ul] [li]Would have omplicated emoluments lawsuits, check[/li][li]Backed by Republicans who went out on a limb supporting Doral decision before cutting it off, check[/li][li]Makes Mulvaney’s press appearance even more useless and demeaning, check[/li][li]Possible article of impeachment, check[/li][/ul]So much winning… ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3067 "2019-10-20T04:58:12Z")
Missed one [ul] [li]Possible boycott by G7 attendees, check[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3068 "2019-10-20T12:28:17Z")
I know we now sneer at the idea that Trump may be playing multi-dimensional chess when it seems like he’s done something stupid that looks like a loss he didn’t really get anything out of, but I have to ask: what actually _happened,_ here? Well, there was lots of talk about a resort that _could,_ of course, host world leaders; but it _shouldn’t,_ because having VIPs marvel at marble floors under fancy chandeliers would involve some kind of emoluments violation, dontchaknow. And if it never actually hosts the event, it never falls short of expectations; just a starting point — discuss the venue; grant, for the sake of argument, that folks would usually pay even more; ask whether operating it ‘at cost’ just this once would be appropriate — and then just, y’know, _stop,_ after days of free publicity. Was there anything else? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3069 "2019-10-20T14:59:29Z")
[Kyle Griffin](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1185927466398957568), _MSNBC_: > [@](#): > > Stephanopoulos on suspending aid to Ukraine: “You saw Mr. Mulvaney right there say that one of the reasons was indeed this idea that Ukraine had to pursue these political investigations.” > > Mike Pompeo: “I’ll leave to the chief of staff to explain what it is he said.” > Via ABC ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3070 "2019-10-20T15:10:52Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I know we now sneer at the idea that Trump may be playing multi-dimensional chess “Care for a game of chess, Mr President?” “I’ll be the shoe.” “Ummm, that’s Monopoly, Mr President.” “Wheeeeeeeeeeee!” “Ummm, Chutes and Ladders, sir.” ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3071 "2019-10-20T16:18:24Z")
Shoe? No way. He always gets to be the top hat, or he refuses to play and stomps off to his room. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3072 "2019-10-20T16:35:17Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Shoe? No way. He always gets to be the top hat, or he refuses to play and stomps off to his room. Good, because I pout if I can’t have either the dog or the race car. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3073 "2019-10-20T17:03:32Z")
You can date yourself as an old fart if you remember the [wooden Monopoly tokens](http://www.worldofmonopoly.com/northamerica/usa/country/info/images/tokens/1954-9wood.jpg) My sister always had to have the tall white one. I preferred the red one. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3074 "2019-10-20T17:40:34Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Let’s see… > > [ul] > [li]Would have omplicated emoluments lawsuits, check[/li][li]Backed by Republicans who went out on a limb supporting Doral decision before cutting it off, check[/li][li]Makes Mulvaney’s press appearance even more useless and demeaning, check[/li][li]Possible article of impeachment, check[/li][/ul]So much winning… I guess Trump was right about one thing. Personally, I _am_ tired of winning. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3075 "2019-10-20T18:38:07Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Kyle Griffin](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1185927466398957568), _MSNBC_: Chris Wallace on _Fox News_ grilled Mulvaney and didn’t let him up. > **[Mick Mulvaney Melts Down Under Brutal Grilling By Fox’s Chris Wallace](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-acting-chief-of-staff-mick-mulvaney-melts-down-under-brutal-grilling-by-foxs-chris-wallace)** > > Wallace repeatedly threw Mulvaney’s own remarks back in his face by playing clips from last week’s press briefing and at one point declared, “you said what you said.” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3076 "2019-10-21T01:32:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Chris Wallace on _Fox News_ grilled Mulvaney and didn’t let him up. > [Trump’s Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney Melts Down Under Brutal Grilling By Fox’s Chris Wallace](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-acting-chief-of-staff-mick-mulvaney-melts-down-under-brutal-grilling-by-foxs-chris-wallace) Man, Mulvaney’s scooting around like an itchy dog on a carpet trying to avoid answering Wallace’s questions… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3077 "2019-10-21T17:43:01Z")
Ohhhh, darnit, Lev Parnas had a private Insta account which was snooped out by the WSJ. And what did they find? [All sorts of pictures with Trump and his kids from the past 5 years](https://twitter.com/shelbyholliday/status/1186225160883449857?s=20), including an August, 2018 message from the White House to Parnas, signed by Trump and Melania. Link to video for those not paywalled: [Private Photos of Indicted Donor Depict Ties to Trump, Giuliani](https://www.wsj.com/video/private-photos-of-indicted-donor-depict-ties-to-trump-giuliani/7EED4946-5201-4D70-A8FF-0516DCC1488E.html) ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3078 "2019-10-21T18:18:39Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > “Care for a game of chess, Mr President? […]” > [@](#): > > “Care for a game of chess, Mr President?” > > “I’ll be the shoe.” > > “Ummm, that’s Monopoly, Mr President.” > > “Wheeeeeeeeeeee!” > > “Ummm, Chutes and Ladders, sir.” This post has been Trumped by the Trumpist. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3079 "2019-10-21T20:26:43Z")
I do not understand in the least how Trump can go on TV and say with a straight face that the whistleblower has been discredited, proved wrong, and was a liar. There’s spin, and then there’s lies. It’s baffling. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3080 "2019-10-21T22:10:08Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > I do not understand in the least how Trump can go on TV and say with a straight face that the whistleblower has been discredited, proved wrong, and was a liar. There’s spin, and then there’s lies. It’s baffling. I don’t see why he thinks he needs to. His followers are already brainwashed and he’s not convincing anyone else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=153) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=155)