# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 193
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3841 "2019-11-06T00:16:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well goodness. > > I guess the Trumpist chant will have to focus on: > > " It’s not a crime if the president does it" > > I mean, that worked before, right? > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Didn’t it get a Frosty reception the first time around? iswydt ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3842 "2019-11-06T00:28:43Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > iswydt Don’t encourage him. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3843 "2019-11-06T01:32:39Z")
> [@Sondland](#): > > I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks. This strikes me as a statement carefully crafted by lawyers to avoid perjury charges without providing a sound bite that explicitly mentions the Bidens or Burisma. The rightwing press can now quote this out of context as being a call for an investigation of corruption in general. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3844 "2019-11-06T01:36:14Z")
This isn’t directly impeachment-related, but it appears that Bevin (R) has lost his race for the Governorship of Kentucky. As a man who went all-in for Trump and all-out for impeachment, if this holds up Moscow Mitch will be making a call to the Kremlin from that burner phone he saved for such an emergency. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3845 "2019-11-06T01:45:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > This isn’t directly impeachment-related, but it appears that Bevin (R) has lost his race for the Governorship of Kentucky. As a man who went all-in for Trump and all-out for impeachment, if this holds up Moscow Mitch will be making a call to the Kremlin from that burner phone he saved for such an emergency. 😉 No, not just yet. There are 5 rural counties with no votes in yet and Beshear is only ahead by 13,000 at the moment. Bevin could still pull this out. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3846 "2019-11-06T01:46:06Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > This isn’t directly impeachment-related, but it appears that Bevin (R) has lost his race for the Governorship of Kentucky. As a man who went all-in for Trump and all-out for impeachment, if this holds up Moscow Mitch will be making a call to the Kremlin from that burner phone he saved for such an emergency. 😉 MSNBC is reporting this as too close to call. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3847 "2019-11-06T02:00:42Z")
> [@SmellMyWort](#): > > Does this quote from Sondland help? > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/politics/gordon-sondland-kurt-volker-transcripts-impeachment-inquiry/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/politics/gordon-sondland-kurt-volker-transcripts-impeachment-inquiry/index.html) Yes, because it actually mentions something illicit. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3848 "2019-11-06T02:11:39Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > MSNBC is reporting this as too close to call. Yeah, as I tweeted: “I’m seeing a lot of congratulatory tweets about KY, but no tweets showing this one being called (except by one guy who everyone is relying on). Any other citations for the KY win?” I’m glad I qualified with “appears”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3849 "2019-11-06T02:19:54Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yeah, as I tweeted: “I’m seeing a lot of congratulatory tweets about KY, but no tweets showing this one being called (except by one guy who everyone is relying on). Any other citations for the KY win?” > > I’m glad I qualified with “appears”. 😉 They just now called if for Beshear (D). ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3850 "2019-11-06T02:46:53Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > They just now called if for Beshear (D). It’s extremely close. If Donald Trump were a more energetic would-be dictator, I’d expect him to workshop the “system is rigged against Republicans” messaging that he’s sure to need in November 2020. But he may be more interested in getting in some golf. > [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Lindsey Graham [a few weeks ago](https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1182011592139038722): > > > [@](#): > > > > If House D’s refuse to release full transcript of Volker testimony as requested by Congressman Jordan, it will be an abuse of power. > > … > > If this continues, I will call Volker before the Senate Judiciary Committee to testify publicly to ensure the full story is told. > > Lindsey Graham [today](https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1191824848978358274): > > > [@](#): > > > > Reporter: “Do you plan on reading these transcripts that were released?” > > > > Graham: “No… I’ve written the whole process off … I think this is a bunch of B.S.” Why on earth didn’t every Congressional-beat reporter have the October 9 tweets cued up on a pad to show Graham? And why didn’t every cable news show have the same tweets ready to put up on the screen? Missed opportunities. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3851 "2019-11-06T02:51:51Z")
One rather stupid argument that I’ve now seen twice is that it can’t be a quid-pro-quo if Trump gave them the requested aid. Alright, so, let’s say that I am the clerk at the DMV. You come in to get a new license. I tell you, “No, not unless you slip an extra $20 on, otherwise you have to wait until after the holidays.” You at the $20 which I slip into my pocket. I give you the license. In this story, is the fact that I gave you the license evidence that I did not solicit a bribe? ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3852 "2019-11-06T03:20:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you call “paraphrasing” “literally making stuff up,” I’m afraid it’s you, not Schiff, playing into the hands of the fake news crowd. He did both, but that isn’t the main point: _It was stupid of Schiff to do what he did because in addition to adding to the “fake news” fire, it gives the impression that he thought what was said on the phone call wasn’t in and of itself enough to convince people that Trump was doing something wrong._ It makes him look weak and untrustworthy, and that will not help him convince those who need to be convinced of Trump’s wrongdoing. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3853 "2019-11-06T03:23:31Z")
Who gives a shit what Schiff said? He paraphrased a document. Boo hoo. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3854 "2019-11-06T03:24:55Z")
And in other news, The Virginia statehouse will be [controlled](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/11/05/2019-elections-key-race-results-kentucky-mississippi-virginia/4155155002/) by Democrats for the first time in a generation. Gun control and more health care, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3855 "2019-11-06T03:30:46Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Who gives a shit what Schiff said? He paraphrased a document. Boo hoo. I don’t know who else gives a shit, but some people might. Seems you aren’t interested in my point, though, so that’s fine. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3856 "2019-11-06T03:41:50Z")
“Looking at all this evidence, I cannot forget that moment when Adam Schiff paraphrased. I never saw it, of course… I was at work… but, God! What do I believe, the evidence or a summary of a single document?” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3857 "2019-11-06T06:31:38Z")
I missed the Schiff sideschow. Anyplace I can look to get up to speed on it? TIA 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3858 "2019-11-06T07:23:48Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Why on earth didn’t every Congressional-beat reporter have the October 9 tweets cued up on a pad to show Graham? Because most of them are useless. They mostly just ask useless yes-no questions where it’s obvious which answer is going to be given. “Senator Graham, should the President be impeached?” “Mr. President, did you break the law?” What the fuck do they think is going to be the answer to such stupid yes-no questions? ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3859 "2019-11-06T12:32:16Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I missed the Schiff sideschow. Anyplace I can look to get up to speed on it? > > TIA 🙂 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/GN4CJ8MYLTY/maxresdefault.jpg "WATCH: Rep. Adam Schiff's full opening statement on whistleblower complaint | DNI hearing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN4CJ8MYLTY&t=237) “This is the essence of what the President communicates.” He says in advance that it’s a paraphrase of the conversation. The Republicans are grasping at straws with their whining. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/3860 "2019-11-06T14:26:10Z")
> [@Monocracy](#): > > [https://youtu.be/GN4CJ8MYLTY?t=237](https://youtu.be/GN4CJ8MYLTY?t=237) > … > He says in advance that it’s a paraphrase of the conversation… Sure, but that can conveniently be edited out, leaving only the idiotic and _unnecessary_ imagined conversation to be shown over and over again, feeding the fake news narrative. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=192) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=194)