# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4801 "2019-11-16T02:53:13Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> …The Democrats have an urgent desire to get this thing done by the end of the year. Why? Because some of the front-running members of the primary are senators, who would have to take time out of their campaigns to attend the impeachment trial – right before the primary. …

Getting the House component done before the end of the year won’t help the Dem-candidate Senators at all, as McConnell will be free to drag out the Senate trial through week after week of the primaries. Just keeping the trial going during a mere eight weeks (February through March) will keep the Democratic candidates from actively campaigning in TWENTY-NINE state contests (though of course they’ll still be on those ballots).

McConnell can keep it going for eight weeks with no sweat. And with the majority of the witnesses called being people who can “testify” to issues not only about Biden but about Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg, and anyone else at the top of the polls, the double-purpose of smearing Trump’s opponents can be accomplished.

So, I’m certainly not arguing against your well-known position that the economy and consequent voter-mood are crucial, here.

I’m just saying that what we’ve seen so far of the public hearings will _not_ be giving Trump’s side happy feelings, no matter what they say on camera. Independents are not going to be won over to Trump’s side by these hearings.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4802 "2019-11-16T03:01:38Z")

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> [@sps49sd](#):
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> I disagree. I believe at this moment that Schiff is engaging in political theater without real evidence

lol

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4803 "2019-11-16T03:15:31Z")

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> [@sps49sd](#):
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> I disagree. I believe at this moment that Schiff is engaging in political theater without real evidence, and that it is a continuation of trying to throw anything and everything at the President until something hopefully sticks. And if Schiff lied about anything to do with the inquiry, then I believe it calls into question his entire proceeding even more.

Schiff is engaging in political theater. That’s what he does for a living.

The people who are under oath are under oath and, if they perjure themselves, then well…Roger Stone. If they say bad things against the President, then they lose their livelihood. This is not scripted TV and the people answering the questions are just regular people who would prefer to be at work, living a quiet, making the world a better place. Instead, they’re destroying their life either way they go and trying to be lawful citizens and faithful employees.

If your argument require time travel or mind control then your argument is wrong.

Schiff can be every bit as scummy as you desire but he does not have the magical power of mind control.

They say the things they say because it’s a crime for them to lie and going to jail is worse than being fired.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4804 "2019-11-16T08:28:12Z")

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> [@Jim\_Peebles](#):
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> Did Yovanovitch contradict herself?  
> [https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1195356630038327297](https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1195356630038327297)  
> versus  
> [https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=9KNHeAeMZkc](https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=9KNHeAeMZkc)

Ok, others have noticed this:

> **[WOW! Fired Ambassador Yovanovitch LIES Under Oath - Changes Her Story About...](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/wow-fired-ambassador-yovanovitch-lies-changes-her-story-about-burisma-during-testimony-shouldnt-she-be-roger-stoned/)**
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> Fired anti-Trump Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch spoke in front of the Schiff show trial on Friday.

And I see two more possible lies reported on the same website:

> **[BOOM! Fired Anti-Trump Ambassador Yovanovitch LIED UNDER OATH During...](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/boom-fired-anti-trump-ambassador-yovanovitch-lied-under-oath-during-impeachment-testimony-about-contact-with-dem-staffer-video/)**
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> Tucker Carlson broke an exclusive tonight on the ongoing Democrat Party impeachment inquisition.

> **[MORE LIES: Marie Yovanovitch Lied About Her "Do Not Prosecute" List Says...](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/more-lies-marie-yovanovitch-lied-about-her-do-not-prosecute-list-says-ukrainian-prosecutor-video/)**
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> Fired anti-Trump Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch spoke in front of the Schiff show trial on Friday.

The Democrats made a big mistake promoting her from the secret to the public hearing.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4805 "2019-11-16T09:11:26Z")

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Your source is The Gateway Pundit?  
[This Gateway Pundit?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#False_stories_and_conspiracy_theories)  
Seems like they “notice” a lot of things that are untrue.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4806 "2019-11-16T10:21:58Z")

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> [@Jim\_Peebles](#):
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> Ok, others have noticed this:
> 
> [WOW! Fired Ambassador Yovanovitch LIES Under Oath - Changes Her Story About Burisma During Testimony... Shouldn't She Be 'Roger Stoned' Too? | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/wow-fired-ambassador-yovanovitch-lies-changes-her-story-about-burisma-during-testimony-shouldnt-she-be-roger-stoned/)
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> And I see two more possible lies reported on the same website:
> 
> [BOOM! Fired Anti-Trump Ambassador Yovanovitch LIED UNDER OATH During Impeachment Testimony About Contact with Dem Staffer (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/boom-fired-anti-trump-ambassador-yovanovitch-lied-under-oath-during-impeachment-testimony-about-contact-with-dem-staffer-video/)
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> [MORE LIES: Marie Yovanovitch Lied About Her "Do Not Prosecute" List Says Ukrainian Prosecutor (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/more-lies-marie-yovanovitch-lied-about-her-do-not-prosecute-list-says-ukrainian-prosecutor-video/)
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> The Democrats made a big mistake promoting her from the secret to the public hearing.

@ **Jim Peebles** — Supposing that we stipulate that the charges against Ms. Yovanovitch are true, how would you compare her perjuries with the crimes that Donald Trump is charged with?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4807 "2019-11-16T12:31:57Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> but I do think there could be some softening of Trump’s support as that part of the public paying attention sees the weakness of Trump’s position. The arguments excusing his conduct are poor, and those wielding the arguments are not coming off well.

I can’t really disagree with this, and his support has actually been softening for a while. By that I mean that probably 10-15% of those who support him do so mainly because they are optimistic about the country as a whole in spite of Trump. I think a fair percentage of Trump voters don’t really like Trump’s personality or style, and some might have grave reservations about it all. But at their core, they don’t **trust** democrats and they are suspicious of people with progressive values. This is how politicians exploit culture wars, which is Trump’s ace card.

But if suddenly people begin to feel that the situation itself is going down the tubes. If they, for instance, they see the entire economy go into reverse, then that’s a game changer. The president gets the blame if Americans are miserable, fearful, or pessimistic about their futures. Most likely, these 10-15% of Trumpers wouldn’t vote Dem, but they might just vote for William Weld or stay home, which is probably the best we can hope for.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4808 "2019-11-16T12:33:36Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> @ **Jim Peebles** — Supposing that we stipulate that the charges against Ms. Yovanovitch are true, how would you compare her perjuries with the crimes that Donald Trump is charged with?

Jesus Christ the JAQing in this thread. It doesn’t matter how he thinks she compares to Trump. It’s a matter of witness credibility. Which has already been addressed some posts back. You’re perfectly capable of making your own argument instead of asking other people to make it for you.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4809 "2019-11-16T13:03:05Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> Your source is The Gateway Pundit?  
> [This Gateway Pundit?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#False_stories_and_conspiracy_theories)  
> Seems like they “notice” a lot of things that are untrue.

See our earlier conversation on how criminals and psychopaths think everyone is criminal and psychopathic. The Gateway Pundit is just a bunch of liars who assume everyone else are liars.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4810 "2019-11-16T13:24:20Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> My bold.
> 
> This is important and has been lost sight of in this discussion. This is what the soon-to-be Former President said:  
> “She started off in Somalia. How did that go?”
> 
> **He’s not saying she’s bad at her job.** He’s implying that she was instrumental in causing the crisis in Somalia. That she causes bad things to happen in a country. Of course, he doesn’t come right out and say it, because his lack of gonads prevents him from speaking clearly and directly. All he is capable of is sneering and snarking-- “I’ve heard…” “People are saying…” “It looks like…”
> 
> What the ever-loving fuck?

The tweets aren’t just designed to intimidate, although that’s certainly partly the motive behind them; more than that, the tweets are Trump’s way of asserting himself and projecting power. It’s a message to all civil servants who oppose him or who blow whistles: “This is what will happen to you. And nothing will happen to me.” It’s also aimed at Republicans in the Senate. He’s projecting strength and dominance, which fires up the voters upon whom some senators will depend to get re-elected next fall. It’s a message from a tribal leader, intended to unite the tribe. Classic Roy Cohn type stuff.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4811 "2019-11-16T14:16:47Z")

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> [@Jim\_Peebles](#):
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> Ok, others have noticed this:
> 
> [WOW! Fired Ambassador Yovanovitch LIES Under Oath - Changes Her Story About Burisma During Testimony... Shouldn't She Be 'Roger Stoned' Too? | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/wow-fired-ambassador-yovanovitch-lies-changes-her-story-about-burisma-during-testimony-shouldnt-she-be-roger-stoned/)
> 
> And I see two more possible lies reported on the same website:
> 
> [BOOM! Fired Anti-Trump Ambassador Yovanovitch LIED UNDER OATH During Impeachment Testimony About Contact with Dem Staffer (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/boom-fired-anti-trump-ambassador-yovanovitch-lied-under-oath-during-impeachment-testimony-about-contact-with-dem-staffer-video/)
> 
> [MORE LIES: Marie Yovanovitch Lied About Her "Do Not Prosecute" List Says Ukrainian Prosecutor (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/more-lies-marie-yovanovitch-lied-about-her-do-not-prosecute-list-says-ukrainian-prosecutor-video/)
> 
> The Democrats made a big mistake promoting her from the secret to the public hearing.

> [@septimus](#):
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> @ **Jim Peebles** — Supposing that we stipulate that the charges against Ms. Yovanovitch are true, how would you compare her perjuries with the crimes that Donald Trump is charged with?

That’s some serious gaslighting, especially the last one. That one involves the bogus “do not prosecute” list that she allegedly gave the prosecutor. Which he retracted.  
But according to this bombshell, **He denies that he never retracted the list!**.

All this Ukrainian stuff is going to provide lots of opportunities for gaslighting. Yovanovitch discussed the “do not prosecute” stuff in deeper detail in her closed door testimony. In that country, corrupt prosecutors frequently target innocent people for both political and business/financial reasons. Part of the “cleaning up corruption” mandate involves squelching this type of corrupt law enforcement activity.

But these efforts can easily be swung back around and “tried to stop so and so from being prosecuted” sounds bad, on its face. Especially when you’re dealing with an audience that doesn’t understand the former USSR. Because Lutsenko, Lestchenko, same difference, right?

Frankly, because of this, I know that there’s no way to get Trump’s much deserved impeachment and removal based on the Zelensky shakedown. (Unless Zelensky decides otherwise, if he complained on the world stage about being strong-armed that would be a game changer).

But the Republicans still have a problem, because it’s blindingly obvious that Trump does not differentiate between his own self-interest and US interests. So he’s going to keep his minions running around the world doing stupid vengeful stuff, and Vlad is going to feed him enough disinformation to keep it interesting. It’s not ending with this.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4812 "2019-11-16T14:58:15Z")

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_CNN_: [After private White House meeting, Giuliani associate Lev Parnas said he was on a ‘secret mission’ for Trump, sources say](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/parnas-trump-special-mission-ukraine/index.html)

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> At one point during the party that night, Parnas and Fruman slipped out of a large reception room packed with hundreds of Trump donors to have a private meeting with the President and Giuliani, according to two acquaintances in whom Parnas confided right after the meeting.  
> …  
> According to those two confidants, Parnas said that “the big guy,” as he sometimes referred to the President in conversation, talked about tasking him and Fruman with what Parnas described as “a secret mission” to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
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> In the days immediately following the meeting, Parnas insinuated to the two people he confided in that he clearly believed he’d been given a special assignment by the President; like some sort of “James Bond mission,” according to one of the people.
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> To Parnas, the chain of command was clear: Giuliani would issue the President’s directives while Parnas, who speaks fluent Russian, would be an on-the-ground investigator alongside Fruman, who has numerous business contacts in Ukraine.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4813 "2019-11-16T15:15:17Z")

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Won’t McConnel simply call for an immediate vote and Trump be acquitted?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4814 "2019-11-16T15:24:47Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> Your source is The Gateway Pundit?  
> [This Gateway Pundit?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#False_stories_and_conspiracy_theories)  
> Seems like they “notice” a lot of things that are untrue.

The Gateway Pundit is quite possibly the worst thing to have come from St. Louis. It makes me ashamed of my beloved home town.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4815 "2019-11-16T15:48:51Z")

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Trump [tweets quote](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1195727871765073921) from “Rush L”, presumably Rush Limbaugh, describing Yovanovitch, Taylor and Kent as part of “the Swamp” that needs to be “drained”.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4816 "2019-11-16T15:53:57Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> _CNN_: [After private White House meeting, Giuliani associate Lev Parnas said he was on a ‘secret mission’ for Trump, sources say](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/parnas-trump-special-mission-ukraine/index.html)

Given CNN’s knack for shooting themselves in the foot, I’m going to guess that they haven’t double-checked anything that their acquaintance of Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump is saying, and that this will come back to bite them and anyone that falls for it.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4817 "2019-11-16T15:58:11Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Trump [tweets quote](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1195727871765073921) from “Rush L”, presumably Rush Limbaugh, describing Yovanovitch, Taylor and Kent as part of “the Swamp” that needs to be “drained”.

The Republicans seem to have decided at some point that “swamp” wasn’t corruption, it’s “non-faithful Trump loyalists”.

> **[Spoils system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoils_system)**
>
> In politics and government, a spoils system (also known as a patronage system) is a practice in which a political party, after winning an election, gives government jobs to its supporters, friends (cronyism), and relatives (nepotism) as a reward for working toward victory, and as an incentive to keep working for the party—as opposed to a merit system, where offices are awarded or promoted on the basis of some measure of merit, independent of political activity.
> The term was used particularl...

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4818 "2019-11-16T16:15:36Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Won’t McConnel simply call for an immediate vote and Trump be acquitted?

Interesting but unconfirmed, it’s rumored McConnell doesn’t have the votes to do that. More unrest in his caucus over this than is perhaps publicly known.

Of course, he will do his best to make the Senate trial a joke and will simultaneously sideline a number of Democratic candidates for president. That will allow Trump and his minions to focus their efforts and money on dirtying up Biden.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4819 "2019-11-16T16:32:02Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Won’t McConnel simply call for an immediate vote and Trump be acquitted?

I suspect the end result will be acquittal, but why rush it? Senator McConnell should drag the trial out through February, March, maybe even April. Keep Sanders, Warren, Harris, Spartacus, Klobuchar, and Bennet tied up in hearings the whole time. Basically, clear the field for Biden. At the same time, use the subpoena power that Schiff has denied Republicans in the House to bring Hunter Biden, Eric Ciaramella, Schiff, etc. before the Senate and focus on Biden’s corruption and the “political-motivated witch hunt” nature of the impeachment proceedings in the House. Pound Biden over and over again for the impropriety with Burisma and the extortion he used to have the prosecutor fired. Then, after all that, call for the vote and queue the “Trump exonerated, no bribery” talking points. Seems like a cake walk from there to victory in November.

ETA: I see **Aspenglow** beat me to the punch.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4820 "2019-11-16T16:35:08Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I suspect the end result will be acquittal, but why rush it? Senator McConnell should drag the trial out through February, March, maybe even April. Keep Sanders, Warren, Harris, Spartacus, Klobuchar, and Bennet tied up in hearings the whole time. Basically, clear the field for Biden. At the same time, use the subpoena power that Schiff has denied Republicans in the House to bring Hunter Biden, Eric Ciaramella, Schiff, etc. before the Senate and focus on Biden’s corruption and the “political-motivated witch hunt” nature of the impeachment proceedings in the House. Pound Biden over and over again for the impropriety with Burisma and the extortion he used to have the prosecutor fired. Then, after all that, call for the vote and queue the “Trump exonerated, no bribery” talking points. Seems like a cake walk from there to victory in November.

If Hunter Biden actually testified, what’s the hope? He doesn’t explain his role as a Board Member well? They’ll never call him to testify because, as far as I can tell, he has nothing to be defensive about.

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