# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 265
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5281 "2019-11-21T00:47:07Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > The Republicans need to list perfectly acceptable cases cases where foreign aid was conditioned on another country taking actions, and ask Sondland if those are “quid pro quos”, and also maybe ask him things like “is marriage a quid pro quo?” The sound bite is “Sondland said there was a quid pro quo”, but he may not be saying it is a nefarious quid pro quo. Poe’s Law? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5282 "2019-11-21T00:54:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > It’s expected that Pompeo will run for the Senate from Kansas. He’s going to have to decide whether hanging on to Individual 1’s coattails will help or hurt him. IIRC, all government employees except the President and Vice-President are forbidden from engaging in any campaign-related political activities in the course of their official duties. This used to be strictly enforced, Kathleen Sebelius once said something during a public speech on ObamaCare that was interpreted as a political endorsement ( and it was just a sentence or two, I think), and she had to reclassify the entire event as a personal and reimburse the taxpayers for the cost. Those were the days, huh… I haven’t even seen anyone take that angle. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5283 "2019-11-21T01:03:07Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > The Republicans need to list perfectly acceptable cases cases where foreign aid was conditioned on another country taking actions, and ask Sondland if those are “quid pro quos”, and also maybe ask him things like “is marriage a quid pro quo?” The sound bite is “Sondland said there was a quid pro quo”, but he may not be saying it is a nefarious quid pro quo. Here’s what you are failing to understand: Congress is allowed to ask for quid pro quo. They are in charge of the fucking money. The president is not. The President is required to let the money flow, unless he can get Congress to attach a quid pro quo. When the President asked for a quid pro quo for a basic function of his job, he fulfilled the definition of asking for a bribe. You took this in your high school civics class. Congress controls the purse strings. Trump wasn’t elected king. ---
**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5284 "2019-11-21T01:03:13Z")
Is Devon Nunes wearing Mascara? His lashes look incredibly full! Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5285 "2019-11-21T01:18:35Z")
When you’re so busy draining the swamp, who has time to obey ethics laws? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5286 "2019-11-21T01:20:23Z")
[Keneth P. Vogel](https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1197319399755124736), _NYT_: > [@](#): > > SCOOP: In investigation of LEV PARNAS & IGOR FRUMAN, SDNY has subpoenaed: > ▶Top TRUMP fundraiser & lobbyist BRIAN BALLARD > ▶2 fundraisers for the pro-TRUMP @AmericaFirstPAC > ▶a businessman from whom Parnas sought $ for Fraud Guarantee to pay @RudyGiuliani > … > The subpoena issued to the businessman solicited by LEV PARNAS (for an investment in Fraud Guarantee) expressly mentions RUDY GIULIANI. > > \*The businessman in question did not invest in Fraud Guarantee. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5287 "2019-11-21T01:42:59Z")
The polls over the next few weeks will be interesting. The cynic in me thinks that the truth just doesn’t matter. If we don’t see a significant drop in the polls, I think that’s pretty indicative that there is no reaching these people and that we are stuck with them. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5288 "2019-11-21T01:43:48Z")
On a personal note, I’m fucking exhausted. I haven’t watched every second, but I’ve had it on most of the time to varying levels of paying attention. Two 11-hour days in a row? There’s no time to digest. I’m falling behind in everything else. And a debate tonight too? And another day tomorrow? It’s a firehose of info directly into my face and I’m looking forward to things HOPEFULLY quieting down next week while everyone skedaddles out of town. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5289 "2019-11-21T01:51:19Z")
Why the fuck are you guys watching live? You really think you’re going to catch some bit that your fav commentators won’t? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5290 "2019-11-21T01:57:32Z")
Re: Parnas and the company “Fraud Guarantee” What’s next for Republican con-men? Is someone in the future going to start a company designed to fleece Republican supporters out of their cash, and name it “We Are Stealing Your Money You Stupid Rubes”??? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5291 "2019-11-21T02:03:03Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Why the fuck are you guys watching live? You really think you’re going to catch some bit that your fav commentators won’t? It’s like a gladiator match, no, like a slo-mo multi-truck accident on glare ice that causes a train derailment. You don’t drive away thinking “I’ll see what PBS recaps for me later…” No, you stand there with your fellow rubberneckers, crack a cold one and say "Hoo-boy, ain’t that sumpin’!’ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5292 "2019-11-21T02:05:52Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > The Republicans need to list perfectly acceptable cases cases where foreign aid was conditioned on another country taking actions, and ask Sondland if those are “quid pro quos”, and also maybe ask him things like “is marriage a quid pro quo?” The sound bite is “Sondland said there was a quid pro quo”, but he may not be saying it is a nefarious quid pro quo. It’s not going to be that simple. It’s not that unusual for foreign aid to be conditioned on the recipient being certified as having taking specific reform-related actions. So the Pubbies are going to need to provide a list of incidents where foreign aid was (perfectly acceptably) delayed DESPITE the certification having been duly issued by the agency tasked with issuing it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5293 "2019-11-21T02:09:57Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Who’s that schizo street person that keeps getting to the mic and ranting about something or other? Why can’t security ever stop him? > > Oh wait–that’s Gym Jordan. Don’t jump to conclusions. It might be Devin Moooones… ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5294 "2019-11-21T02:23:07Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Don’t jump to conclusions. It might be Devin Moooones… Mr. Nunes looked udderly distraught after Sondland’s testimony today: [https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/dz6iv1/devin\_nunes\_after\_ambassador\_sondlands\_testimony/](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/dz6iv1/devin_nunes_after_ambassador_sondlands_testimony/) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5295 "2019-11-21T02:27:17Z")
> [@digs](#): > > It’s like a gladiator match, no, like a slo-mo multi-truck accident on glare ice that causes a train derailment. You don’t drive away thinking “I’ll see what PBS recaps for me later…” > > No, you stand there with your fellow rubberneckers, crack a cold one and say "Hoo-boy, ain’t that sumpin’!’ But that’s the thing, it’s mostly not like that. It’s more like watching a guy back out of his driveway, go to work then drive home, all the while waiting for an accident. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5296 "2019-11-21T02:28:41Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Where the hell can the goalposts go now? Probably on some place like Fenway Park, Camden Yards, Dodger Stadium — take your pick. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5297 "2019-11-21T02:40:21Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Mr. Nunes looked udderly distraught after Sondland’s testimony today: > > [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/dz6iv1/devin_nunes_after_ambassador_sondlands_testimony/) He looks positively ruminate. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5298 "2019-11-21T02:42:08Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > He looks positively ruminate. He’s always been a little mooooooooooooooooooooooooo-dy. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5299 "2019-11-21T02:46:38Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Specifically I would want to see Republicans asking whether there was a proper investigation before the call. It’s their party in the White House. > > ~Max Good thinking. It’s a pretty safe bet that no response would be forthcoming, should it be asked by a Democrat. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5300 "2019-11-21T02:48:00Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Why the fuck are you guys watching live? You really think you’re going to catch some bit that your fav commentators won’t? To be fair, allowing your favorite commentators to get between the original sources and your brain is how a large percentage of the population had ended up where they are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=264) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771.md?page=266)