# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5901 "2019-12-04T20:18:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The question is moot.

Puns are bad enough, but now you’re riffing on cow noises? Low.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5902 "2019-12-04T20:19:12Z")

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“Whaddaya mean the Ukrainian server is in a cloud? Go get it and bring it here!”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5903 "2019-12-04T20:20:14Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Puns are bad enough, but now you’re riffing on cow noises? Low.

Can’t prove it.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5904 "2019-12-04T20:32:42Z")

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I didn’t hear Turley’s statement, just the news summary recaps: but it sounds like his problem isn’t whether or not the offense is impeachable, but whether or not the evidence is convincing that the crime actually occurred.

If so, I’d love to have a congressperson ask him to confirm that. “If a hypothetical president asked a foreign leader to assist in his election in exchange for something…would you consider that an impeachable offense?”

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5905 "2019-12-04T20:49:39Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I didn’t hear Turley’s statement, just the news summary recaps: but it sounds like his problem isn’t whether or not the offense is impeachable, but whether or not the evidence is convincing that the crime actually occurred.
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> If so, I’d love to have a congressperson ask him to confirm that. “If a hypothetical president asked a foreign leader to assist in his election in exchange for something…would you consider that an impeachable offense?”

I’ve been listening off and on and in general his schtick is that he doesn’t think that what Trump did is kosher, but he doesn’t think it’s a crime and he certainly doesn’t think it’s impeachable. The country is divided, see, and we’re all angry, and this is moving way too fast, so we should just drop it and move on.

Under questioning, though, he seems to be willing to agree with whatever ridiculous nonsense the Republicans throw his way, so who knows.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5906 "2019-12-04T21:10:39Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Puns are bad enough, but now you’re riffing on cow noises? Low.

I see what you did there.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5907 "2019-12-04T21:19:24Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The question is moot.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Puns are bad enough, but now you’re riffing on cow noises? Low.

That attempt at humor was a flop for both of you…

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5908 "2019-12-04T21:22:34Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Today’s Q&A with the constitutional scholars was a fascinating tutorial on the law of the land. Even the Republican shill had interesting things to say. The pubbies on the committee, of course, used their time to grandstand and sputter “but…but…Bidens!”

I think vast majority of Trump fans are not going to care about professors opinions. Except maybe the one who was not in favor of impeachment. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5909 "2019-12-04T21:33:08Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> That attempt at humor was a flop for both of you…

You’ve milked this situation for all it’s worth. Nothing to see here, please moove along…

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5910 "2019-12-04T22:55:02Z")

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> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#):
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> You’ve milked this situation for all it’s worth. Nothing to see here, please moove along…

Cud you all just knock it off?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5911 "2019-12-04T23:23:32Z")

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This bovine hijack is udderly appalling!

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5912 "2019-12-04T23:26:17Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Cud you all just knock it off?

Don’t have a cow, man!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5913 "2019-12-04T23:54:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> “Whaddaya mean the Ukrainian server is in a cloud? Go get it and bring it here!”

“Get me the Air Force!”

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5914 "2019-12-04T23:56:11Z")

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I got a beef with all you heifers. Steer it back on topic before the mods prod you.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5915 "2019-12-05T00:33:24Z")

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What kind of bull is this? I really gotta ox the question…

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5916 "2019-12-05T00:37:23Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> (Collins) seems to be a bit smarter than Jordan (a low bar), but his dignity and morals are about the same.

He finds it “interesting”. He found many things “interesting”. I was struck by his limited choice of words and phrasings but assume he must be intelligent to be where he is. So let me ask: do he and Jordan always sound like this - loud, angry, and proudly boorish? Or is it an act for their voters?

ETA: I am basing my observations on his opening statement. I haven’t seen (yet) anything he might have said later.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5917 "2019-12-05T00:52:53Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Today’s Q&A with the constitutional scholars was a fascinating tutorial on the law of the land. Even the Republican shill had interesting things to say. The pubbies on the committee, of course, used their time to grandstand and sputter “but…but…Bidens!”

I’ll give Turley his due: he’s one of the few Republican defenders who’s actually thought out how to develop a cogent defense

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5918 "2019-12-05T01:19:03Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I got a beef with all you heifers. Steer it back on topic before the mods prod you.

Reported for Junior Mooing!

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5919 "2019-12-05T02:00:18Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’ll give Turley his due: he’s one of the few Republican defenders who’s actually thought out how to develop a cogent defense

Turley’s defense of Trump was ‘_you Dems cannot impeach because you haven’t heard from the witnesses Trump won’t allow to testify._’

“Cogent” is not the word I would use.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/5920 "2019-12-05T02:57:57Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Turley’s defense of Trump was ‘_you Dems cannot impeach because you haven’t heard from the witnesses Trump won’t allow to testify._’
> 
> “Cogent” is not the word I would use.

Except that the courts haven’t ruled on whether they’re compelled to testify. I’m not saying I subscribe to Turley’s line of reasoning, but it at least dresses itself up like an argument that could be made.

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