# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6281 "2019-12-18T15:31:04Z")

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What’s happening in the hearing? I understand the Pubs moved to adjourn as soon as it opened. One of them said there would be some shenanigans today. Like the first day of toddler camp, right? Spiders in the inkwells? Whoopee cushions?

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6282 "2019-12-18T15:59:29Z")

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> [@racepug](#):
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> There actually was a time when BRAINS, COMPETENCY, and ETHICS mattered when it came to electing someone to run this country. But Republicans have lowered the bar so much over the last ½ century that now we get idiots (“Dubya”), scumbags (Angry Lid’l’ Donny), and those who - as my well-educated wife would say - are “non compo mentis” (Ronny “Ray-gun” and increasingly it’s starting to look like the current occupant of the W.H., too [although I, personally, never really thought he was all that “with it,” mentally, to begin with]) in the W.H. Personally, I’m all for electing Elizabeth Warren to the Oval Office (as I was three years ago) but apparently her BRAINS are a turn-off to many (“elitist!”) and her well-thought-out ideas are simply too complex for most “Merkans” to grasp to keep her immune from all of the smearing (“Socialist!”) of her by those on the “right.”

_Originally posted by **Leo McGarry** _:

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> Because I’m tired of it! Year, after year, after year of having to choose between the lesser of who cares? Of trying to get myself excited over a candidate who can speak in complete sentences. Of setting the bar so low, I can hardly look at it. They say a good man can’t get elected president. I don’t believe that, do you?

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6283 "2019-12-18T16:42:00Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> Is it a dog or a cat? You decide this by looking at all the evidence, which in this case is the animal in question. All the evidence is readily available and in the open. In the Ukraine debacle, this doesn’t apply. There are people involved that have not been questioned. That’s all I’m saying. I want to hear from them before I make any final conclusions about the whole thing.

You can’t use another thing as an example of what Trump is or isn’t. He’s uniquely awful.

Also, one can pretty much conclude that what he hides is evidence of his guilt and what he denies is actually the truth.

We’ve had enough witnesses. He did it. It is a spectacularly evil thing to do, to use his office to strongarm a smaller country currently at risk from one of the murderers Trump admires. Eleven people died while Trump held up aid in his quest to smear the Bidens.

If he’s so concerned about the dangers of nepotism, he can start with his three vacuous offspring.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6284 "2019-12-18T19:53:25Z")

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Sorry, this was just released by Wolf Blitzer:

> <https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1207375509698596867?s=19>

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6285 "2019-12-18T22:18:48Z")

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Well, the liar in chief has obviously lied his mind, pardon me- changed his mind since then. Great clip, though!

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**Author:** ![FavreCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a698b9/32.png) [@FavreCo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FavreCo)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6286 "2019-12-19T00:25:54Z")

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D’s getting destroyed tonight in the house. This will be yet another one of their miserable failures, trying to get rid of Trump.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6287 "2019-12-19T00:43:23Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> D’s getting destroyed tonight in the house. This will be yet another one of their miserable failures, trying to get rid of Trump.

That’s funny; we must be watching different speeches. I’ve heard 200 variations on the following themes:

Trump was not afforded due process in the House hearings (not true)  
Ukraine got their funds - no harm, no foul (reprehensible)  
There was no quid pro quo (not true)  
This is a partisan attempt to overturn the 2016 election (not true, and so what?)

In 1972 Nixon won in a landslide – a real landslide, not the fantasy kind in Trump’s head – and Congress had no problems with that in booting his sorry ass to the curb, 2 years later.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6288 "2019-12-19T00:53:13Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> D’s getting destroyed tonight in the house. This will be yet another one of their miserable failures, trying to get rid of Trump.

This has been yet again another miserable failure of republicans trying to defend their moronic criminal leader.

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6289 "2019-12-19T01:25:01Z")

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It will forever blow my mind that there wasn’t a single solitary Republican rep who had the integrity to do the right thing.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6290 "2019-12-19T01:27:10Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> It will forever blow my mind that there wasn’t a single solitary Republican rep who had the integrity to do the right thing.

On the screen at this moment I see 1 Republican – is that a mistake, or are we getting a surprise vote?

EDIT: It disappeared. Apparently a mistake. There is the 1 independent (and former R) Justin Amash.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6291 "2019-12-19T01:30:07Z")

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I just came here to find out who the traitor Republican is. Romney?  
Also, who are the wimps voting “present”?

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6292 "2019-12-19T01:32:03Z")

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It was definitely there, then it disappeared. How does that work?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6293 "2019-12-19T01:33:44Z")

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Tulsi Gabbard voted present, according to the TV. How pathetically cowardly!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6294 "2019-12-19T01:33:45Z")

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When [this](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-jesus/republican-lawmakers-opposing-trump-impeachment-cite-crucifixion-of-jesus-idUSKBN1YM2DQ) becomes your argument, I’d say you’re on the losing side of the issue. And you’ve decidedly lost the plot. (Reuters)

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> Two U.S. Republican lawmakers on Wednesday opposed the impeachment of President Donald Trump with remarks that alluded to the Biblical account of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, causing the phrase “Trump to Jesus” to trend on Twitter.
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> “When Jesus was falsely accused of treason, Pontius Pilate gave Jesus the opportunity to face his accusers,” Representative Barry Loudermilk of Georgia said on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives, saying Jesus received a fairer trial than Trump, who has been accused of abusing his power and obstructing Congress.
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> “During that sham trial, Pontius Pilate afforded more rights to Jesus than Democrats have afforded this president in this process,” the lawmaker added.

Pathetic.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6295 "2019-12-19T01:34:56Z")

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NVM. It’s Tulsi Gabbard.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6296 "2019-12-19T01:37:17Z")

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Tulsi Gabbard voted “present” rather than yea or nay. If she wants to be President, she should at least be able to give a yes or no vote on an important issue.

> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I just came here to find out who the traitor Republican is. Romney?

1. There were no “traitor” Republicans. They all voted against impeachment.

2. Romney is a Senator, not a Representative, so he didn’t get a vote.

Tulsi Gabbard voted “present” rather than yea or nay.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6297 "2019-12-19T01:39:08Z")

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Thanks-had a little brain fart for a second. I definitely saw a Republican yes there for awhile.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6298 "2019-12-19T01:39:56Z")

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Gabbard is going for the anti-impeachment Democratic primary voter. It’s a gutsy move.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6299 "2019-12-19T01:40:05Z")

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> [@FavreCo](#):
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> D’s getting destroyed tonight in the house. This will be yet another one of their miserable failures, trying to get rid of Trump.

It’s funny, right wingers are so invested in their own version of reality they have to keep gaslighting themselves just to keep it in view.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6300 "2019-12-19T01:51:53Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Tulsi Gabbard voted present, according to the TV. How pathetically cowardly!

Well, she at least she made herself a less useful idiot to the Kremlin in 2020.

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