# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6901 "2020-01-18T19:18:22Z")

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I wonder if he will get any one-on-one client attorney meetings with Pam Bondi.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6902 "2020-01-19T06:12:49Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Alan Dershowitz, Ken Starr, and Robert Ray. “A septuagenarian Fox News’s watchers idea of a legal dream team.” - Josh Marshall

Unless something has changed, Dershowitz isn’t considering himself a full member of that team.

> **[Alan Dershowitz Distances Himself From Trump Legal Team](https://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/alan-dershowitz-distances-himself-from-trump-legal-team-im-not-really-part-of-it/)**
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> Alan Dershowitz clarified his role on President Donald Trump's legal defense team in an interview with Mediate founder Dan Abrams Friday, stating he is NOT a "full fledged" member of the impeachment defense. Dershowitz said on The Dan Abrams Show on...

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6903 "2020-01-19T12:50:57Z")

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“Bondi. Pam Bondi,” (Cue short guitar solo.)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6904 "2020-01-19T13:26:53Z")

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twitter thread with many pictures of IMPOTUS with Lev Parnas who IMPOTUS says he never met

> <https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1218722810283069441>

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6905 "2020-01-19T17:27:16Z")

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Actually in fairness IMPOTUS concedes he probably met him, but probably just at a fundraiser once. It just happens to have been a fundraiser with multiple outfit and venue changes.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6906 "2020-01-19T18:22:23Z")

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And by an extraordinary set of coincidences, in almost every case the date/time stamp function was inoperable and/or inaccurate.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6907 "2020-01-19T18:28:29Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Actually in fairness IMPOTUS concedes he probably met him, but probably just at a fundraiser once. It just happens to have been a fundraiser with multiple outfit and venue changes.

I want to say IMPOTUS too…

Nice. I don’t think I’ll stop.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6908 "2020-01-19T18:33:27Z")

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Impeachy keen!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6909 "2020-01-19T19:22:08Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> twitter thread with many pictures of IMPOTUS with Lev Parnas who IMPOTUS says he never met
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> [https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1218722810283069441](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1218722810283069441)

I read something this morning that Individual 1’s schedule for 9/25/19 included breakfast with Lev Parnas.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6910 "2020-01-19T19:24:52Z")

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Although the headline speaks for itself (“Trump’s newest Russia adviser ‘escorted from White House’ after security investigation”) one must wonder exactly what you have to do to get kicked out of THIS White House in particular:

> **[Trump's newest Russia adviser 'escorted from White House' amid security...](https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-newest-russia-adviser-escorted-155335738.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index)**
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> Donald Trump's latest Russia expert has reportedly been escorted from the White House amid claims of a security-related investigation.Andrew Peek has been placed on administrative leave pending the inquiry, Axios reported.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6911 "2020-01-19T20:51:33Z")

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Here’s an article about Parnas’s breakfast with Individual 1

> **[Trump lawyer dismisses new evidence, including photos of the president with...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-lawyer-dismisses-new-evidence-including-photos-president-lev-parnas-n1118331)**
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> Newly released documents include photos of Lev Parnas with President Trump and of him with Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Pam Bondi, a lawyer on the impeachment defense team.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6912 "2020-01-19T20:55:50Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Although the headline speaks for itself (“Trump’s newest Russia adviser ‘escorted from White House’ after security investigation”) one must wonder exactly what you have to do to get kicked out of THIS White House in particular:
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> [Trump's newest Russia adviser 'escorted from White House' amid security investigation](https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-newest-russia-adviser-escorted-155335738.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index)

He probably told Individual 1 to quit sucking (up to) Putin.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6913 "2020-01-19T21:32:26Z")

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Swearing in [Senators.](https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/01/bible-on-which-u-s-senators-swear-impartiality-for-trumps-impeachment-trial-bursts-into-flames/)

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6914 "2020-01-19T22:43:37Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Although the headline speaks for itself (“Trump’s newest Russia adviser ‘escorted from White House’ after security investigation”) one must wonder exactly what you have to do to get kicked out of THIS White House in particular:
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> [Trump's newest Russia adviser 'escorted from White House' amid security investigation](https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-newest-russia-adviser-escorted-155335738.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index)

Tell the truth to someone.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6915 "2020-01-19T23:47:36Z")

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Probably to a reporter.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6916 "2020-01-19T23:49:36Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> Probably to a reporter.

Or worse: to Trump.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6917 "2020-01-20T00:37:44Z")

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[Trump’s Defense Team Calls Impeachment Charges ‘Brazen’](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/us/politics/house-trump-impeachment.html)

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> In a six-page filing formally responding to the House impeachment charges submitted shortly after and filled with partisan barbs against House Democrats, Mr. Trump’s lawyers denounced the case as constitutionally and legally invalid, and driven purely by a desire to hurt Mr. Trump in the 2020 election.

Impeachment is unconstitutional? Really? Did James Madison, George Mason, Alexander Hamilton et al. made a major mistake when they included Section 4 in Article II of the US Constitution?  
As Johnnie Cochran, Alan Dershowitz’s fellow OJ Simpson defense team member, might have said: “If that’s the argument you make, it must be fake.”

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6918 "2020-01-20T01:23:40Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I read something this morning that Individual 1’s schedule for 9/25/19 included breakfast with Lev Parnas.

Can Trump’s appt calendar be subpoenaed for that day and if it was - how would we know it hadn’t been edited?  
Or otherwise, if Parnas DID have a breakfast appt this would have been recorded somewhere other than Trump’s calendar?  
Eg:  
a. Entry logs? - the door to the white house would have a list of expected guests separate from Trump’s calendar?  
b. White House kitchen? Wouldn’t they know who was coming to breakfast and what to prepare?  
c. Security detail or briefing team?

i.e - I wouldn’t imagine the President’s schedule exists in a vacuum - all sorts of other wheels must be in motion for every meeting, and those records could verify the meeting?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6919 "2020-01-20T01:31:55Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> Can Trump’s appt calendar be subpoenaed for that day …  
> i.e - I wouldn’t imagine the President’s schedule exists in a vacuum - all sorts of other wheels must be in motion for every meeting, and those records could verify the meeting?

I guess anything can be subpoenaed. I don’t see him or anyone at the WH turning anything over in response to one. Subpoenas can be ignored, 'cause they’re just plain mean!

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/6920 "2020-01-20T01:38:54Z")

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**[A Partisan Impeachment, a Profile in Courage – By Mike Pence](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/a-partisan-impeachment-a-profile-in-courage/ar-BBZ2fFY)**

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> The sixth chapter of JFK’s Pulitzer Prize-winning book tells the story of Sen. Edmund G. Ross of Kansas, who, in the view of one historian Kennedy cites, performed “the most heroic act in American history.” . . .
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> But once Johnson was impeached, Ross was determined to render a fair judgment, resisting his own party’s stampede.

First of all, a [certain Uncle Cece finds that Kennedy didn’t write that book.](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2478/did-john-f-kennedy-really-write-profiles-in-courage/)

And, given historical discoveries since Ted Sorensen and friends did write that book, describing Edmund Ross’s vote as heroic is absurd. Ross himself, when accused of trading his impeachment vote for Johnsons’s patronage support, [was honest enough not to deny it](https://books.google.com/books?id=kQ23AgF0kYgC&pg=PA4514&lpg=PA4514&dq=%22if+true+there+may+be+two+sides+to+that+also%22&source=bl&ots=h8XHwmizB7&sig=ACfU3U3qN7acygdXzVmrNKN07bsGeOuCAw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnp6CG_JDnAhVCwlkKHfppBGkQ6AEwAXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22if%20true%20there%20may%20be%20two%20sides%20to%20that%20also%22&f=false). Instead he suggested that others were also corrupt:

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> In regard to the promise of patronage for the defeat of the impeachment, there may be two sides to that also. Was it, or was it not true . . .

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