# The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 24, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771 "2019-09-24T20:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1961 "2019-10-06T00:26:27Z")

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Former White House Director of Communications, Anthony “The Mooch” Scaramucci [responds to the Rick Perry story](https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1180599169641107456):

> [@The Mooch](#):
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> Ask @MichaelCohen212
> 
> No one is safe. Everyone is a potential fall guy or woman. @realDonaldTrump will turn on you and eventually the entire country. It’s coming.
> 
> Scoop: Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry - Axios

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1962 "2019-10-06T00:28:10Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> “My subordinate made me do it”, supposedly to discuss a LNG plant that never came up as a topic of conversation according to the infamous not-quite-transcript of Trump’s perfect call.
> 
> It’s like he’s not even trying.

I’d be pretty happy if Trump tries to push this line since there is direct evidence against it. Much more likely is it popped into his head 1 second before he said it. Nobody ever said Trump was a \*good \*liar, just a constant one.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1963 "2019-10-06T00:40:07Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> “My subordinate made me do it”, supposedly to discuss a LNG plant that never came up as a topic of conversation according to the infamous not-quite-transcript of Trump’s perfect call.
> 
> It’s like he’s not even trying.

And also, let’s not forget, the terrible call that Perry forced him to make against his will, was also a Perfect call.

Brain-scientists for decades to come will be studying the effects on Trump fans’ frontal lobes of the relentless need to maintain double-think.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1964 "2019-10-06T00:59:35Z")

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Mitch McConnell [confirms that he intends to make sure that Trump is acquitted](https://eu.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/mitch-mcconnell/2019/10/05/mitch-mcconnell-campaign-ad-says-trump-impeachment-fail/3879571002/) in the Senate trial.

> [@](#):
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> Earlier this week, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said his chamber would have “no choice” but to hold a trial on whether to remove President Donald Trump from office if the House votes to impeach.
> 
> But in a new campaign ad on Facebook, the Kentucky Republican makes clear that any impeachment attempt will fail as long as he remains in charge of the Senate.
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> “Nancy Pelosi’s in the clutches of a left wing mob. They finally convinced her to impeach the president,” McConnell says directly to the camera in a 17-second video. "All of you know your Constitution. The way that impeachment stops is a Senate majority with me as majority leader.
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> “But I need your help,” he adds, standing in front of a picture of an elephant. “Please contribute before the deadline.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1965 "2019-10-06T01:04:49Z")

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There’s a surprise. Moscow Mitch is as crooked as Donald Trump. Put that on his tombstone and include it in the history books, he owns it.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1966 "2019-10-06T01:21:06Z")

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What kind of person [likes to call himself “the Grim Reaper”](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-vows-to-be-the-grim-reaper-to-thwart-all-democratic-proposals/)? Or [identifies with Darth Vader](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/dick-cheney-embraces-the-darth-vader-meme)?

Republicans know they are the bad guys, and they revel in it.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1967 "2019-10-06T02:32:18Z")

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Rick Perry.

I can’t even…

> **[Scoop: Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry](https://www.axios.com/2019/10/05/trump-blamed-rick-perry-call-ukraine-zelensky)**
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> Trump told House Republicans that Perry convinced him to phone Zelensky.

“Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1968 "2019-10-06T02:33:19Z")

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“Day 1. It never happened.  
Day 2. Maybe it happened.  
Day 3. It wasn’t me.  
Day 4. Yes, it was me but it wasn’t wrong.  
Day 5. I’d do it again, and ask China too.  
Day 6. Rick Perry made me do it.”

> <https://twitter.com/PeterGleick/status/1180614461662494720?s=19>

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1969 "2019-10-06T03:14:05Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> “Day 1. It never happened.  
> Day 2. Maybe it happened.  
> Day 3. It wasn’t me.  
> Day 4. Yes, it was me but it wasn’t wrong.  
> Day 5. I’d do it again, and ask China too.  
> Day 6. Rick Perry made me do it.”
> 
> [https://twitter.com/PeterGleick/status/1180614461662494720?s=19](https://twitter.com/PeterGleick/status/1180614461662494720?s=19)

Nice. Rick Perry was worth waiting for. It adds so many wrinkes and possibilities to this narrative, for 7,8, 9 and beyond. Whoops, DWTS, and all the other hits will be recycled into the echosphere.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1970 "2019-10-06T03:44:32Z")

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Pardon me if this has been answered already: could the Senate hold a secret vote in rendering its verdict at the conclusion of an impeachment trial? I’ve heard it suggested that a lot more Republicans would be willing to toss Trump out on his ear if they didn’t have to do so publicly and thereby enrage Trump’s true believers and draw primary challengers.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1971 "2019-10-06T03:48:46Z")

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Day 9: it’s Obama’s fault.  
Day 14: Mueller and Hunter Biden were in cahoots.  
Day 17: Rosie O’Donnell needs to be impeached.  
Day 19: This wouldn’t have happened if Mexico agreed to pay for the wall.  
Day 24: I can’t even imagine what Trump will say, but I bet the words “the Blacks” are used.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1972 "2019-10-06T05:49:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Pardon me if this has been answered already: could the Senate hold a secret vote in rendering its verdict at the conclusion of an impeachment trial? I’ve heard it suggested that a lot more Republicans would be willing to toss Trump out on his ear if they didn’t have to do so publicly and thereby enrage Trump’s true believers and draw primary challengers.

One might even say that Congress would work better, in general, if they were all allowed some amount of anonymity in their votes.

[https://youtu.be/1gEz\_\_sMVaY](https://youtu.be/1gEz__sMVaY) (Bad production value but a good video on the topic)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1973 "2019-10-06T11:35:07Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Pardon me if this has been answered already: could the Senate hold a secret vote in rendering its verdict at the conclusion of an impeachment trial?

Not without a 2/3 vote for a rules change.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1974 "2019-10-06T12:42:47Z")

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I gotta say that I did not see the “Rick Perry is the real criminal mastermind” part of this story coming.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1975 "2019-10-06T12:45:52Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> I’d be pretty happy if Trump tries to push this line since there is direct evidence against it. Much more likely is it popped into his head 1 second before he said it. Nobody ever said Trump was a \*good \*liar, just a constant one.

As blind squirrels go, that lyin’ snake is a busy little beaver.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1976 "2019-10-06T12:46:27Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Nice. Rick Perry was worth waiting for. It adds so many wrinkes and possibilities to this narrative, for 7,8, 9 and beyond. Whoops, DWTS, and all the other hits will be recycled into the echosphere.

Trump was outsmarted by an Aggie.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1977 "2019-10-06T13:22:05Z")

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“[Multiple](https://twitter.com/AndrewBakaj/status/1180826504952983553)” whistleblowers. With [first hand](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2nd-whistleblower-forward-speaking-ig-attorney/story?id=66092396&cid=social_twitter_abcn) knowledge.

Damn, and the cement wasn’t even dry from the last goalpost placement.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1978 "2019-10-06T13:30:53Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “[Multiple](https://twitter.com/AndrewBakaj/status/1180826504952983553)” whistleblowers. With [first hand](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2nd-whistleblower-forward-speaking-ig-attorney/story?id=66092396&cid=social_twitter_abcn) knowledge.
> 
> Damn, and the cement wasn’t even dry from the last goalpost placement.

The goalposts are on rollers.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1979 "2019-10-06T13:51:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Trump was outsmarted by an Aggie.

Oops.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/1980 "2019-10-06T14:12:51Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
>
> Is it just me or does Senator Ron Johnson (WI) seem to be distancing himself somewhat from Trump?  
> [Ron Johnson says Trump denied quid pro quo in August phone call](https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/ron-johnson-says-trump-denied-quid-pro-quo-in-august/article_6f857423-9f65-5704-beb4-3e8e475f73b0.html)
> 
> And regarding military aid to Ukraine:

Holy crap, I’ll link to this moron’s Meet The Press interview when it becomes available on YouTube. All I can say now is that I’m glad this idiot doesn’t repreent me.

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