# The Trump Outrages Come Thick and Fast

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 25, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031 "2019-06-25T13:56:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/61 "2019-06-26T12:29:37Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> “Moving toward”? They’ve already brought people up on charges for giving water to people crossing a desert, and for calling 911 for people traveling in a car with one of them having a medical emergency.
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> We’re already there.

This example shows a willingness to weaponize federal law enforcement and to use it to intimidate people into silence and indifference. I’m sure it only gets better from here.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/62 "2019-06-26T16:53:27Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Or that babies and toddlers who can’t speak a word of English (some can’t speak a word in any language yet) are perfectly capable and competent to represent themselves in court.

Dialog from _Gandhi_:

> [@](#):
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> Gen. Dyer: I was ready to help any who applied.
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> Government Advocate: General, how does a child, shot with a .303 Lee Enfield, “apply” for help?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/63 "2019-06-26T18:38:22Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Oh, nice little Trumpist apologizer. Well done, the laziest talking point ever comes to serve the Orange Clown again. He thanks you, believe me, for your service. And your inability to look around and see things for yourself.

Learn to read, asshead. I’ve shat on the orange shroom plenty in this thread. Apparently anytime the facts don’t fit your narrow worldview you can’t handle it. A person can despise Trump while still correcting a fallacy criticizing his administration.

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**Author:** ![DChord568](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@DChord568](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DChord568)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/64 "2019-06-26T19:34:07Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> But apparently his admirers love it. “Hurrah! How refreshing! He talks just like me! An imbecile!”

Beyond any specific policies or events involving Trump, this will prove to be the greatest single legacy of his presidency.

That being, citizens who have come to the realization that “Hey, if the President of the United States can be a racist, sexist, inhumane asshole right out in public, then I can too! Woohoo! What a relief that I don’t have to hide it any more…I’m gonna let my freak flag fly now!”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/65 "2019-06-26T19:54:42Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Learn to read, asshead. I’ve shat on the orange shroom plenty in this thread. Apparently anytime the facts don’t fit your narrow worldview you can’t handle it. A person can despise Trump while still correcting a fallacy criticizing his administration.

Programs for dealing with illegal aliens existed under previous presidents. The Trump administration has taken legitimate programs and abused them. Sensible people understand the blame for that doesn’t fall on the people who set up the programs.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/66 "2019-06-26T19:57:46Z")

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> [@DChord568](#):
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> That being, citizens who have come to the realization that “Hey, if the President of the United States can be a racist, sexist, inhumane asshole right out in public, then I can too! Woohoo! What a relief that I don’t have to hide it any more…I’m gonna let my freak flag fly now!”

Most of those people are going to end up like Roseanne; they’re going to find out that you can’t get away with being a racist, sexist, inhumane asshole in public unless you’re also a very rich white man.

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/67 "2019-06-26T20:30:14Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> Fake news, she wasn’t even [his type](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48754959).
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> I…I got nothing to add after that.

Here is a thought for the day: Trump’s daughter is his type. God help her.

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/68 "2019-06-26T20:34:42Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> Don’t you mean Kiddie Koncentration Kamps? You make it sound so unsummer camp-like…

Yeah, KKK. You’ve got me snickering and I’m not sure I should be:eek:

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/69 "2019-06-26T20:40:07Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Meanwhile, Senator Al Franken pretended to touch a woman’s breasts and is now jerking sodas in Elk River, Minnesota.

…and probably serving them up to Garrison Keillor who did what, besides give anyone outside of Minnesota a reason to give a crap about Minnesota Public Radio?

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/70 "2019-06-26T20:40:22Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> That orange swine lies every time he takes a breath.

Since this is the pit, I demand you apologize to the pigs of this planet.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/71 "2019-06-26T20:57:14Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Programs for dealing with illegal aliens existed under previous presidents. The Trump administration has taken legitimate programs and abused them. Sensible people understand the blame for that doesn’t fall on the people who set up the programs.

Absolutely. As I said. The policies from this administration piss me off. :mad:

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/72 "2019-06-27T00:38:08Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Just in the past few days:
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> 1. We’ve gotten detailed reports about the horrors of the Trump Adminstration’s kiddie concentration camps.
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> 2. The decision about whether or not to commit an act of war against Iran apparently came down to random thoughts in Trump’s head. (Before that, whether or not to militarily intervene in Venezuela’s internal affairs apparently was decided by Trump’s getting bored with it.)
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> 3. The Oregon GOP cheered on an armed militia’s intimidation of Democratic state legislators, and got no pushback from the national GOP.
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> 4. And a respected columnist described how Trump raped her in a department store dressing room back in the 1990s, adding one more name to the long list of women who’ve gone on record to accuse Trump of sexually assaulting them.
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> This is not normal, needless to say. But when so many Trump/GOP outrages pile on top of one another, there’s hardly any way to mobilize about any single one, and the succession of outrages in effect defines the new normal.
> 
> How the fuck do we deal with this shit, given how fast it comes at us?

Thank you for this post, **RTFirefly**. And even more frightening (you touch on this with #3) this so detestable Administration is fully embraced by a large portion of our citizens and most of the GOP. Like sadists, or imbeciles, or lunatics they chant ‘Lock her up’, fart ‘MAGA’ and make jokes about the kiddies in concentration camps.

That some Dopers are not as flabbergasted by all this as I am is unsettling. Do I see it more clearly as an ex-pat looking in, while Americans living in the midst have become inured, like the apocryphal frog in heating water?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/73 "2019-06-27T01:08:59Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Thank you for this post, **RTFirefly**. And even more frightening (you touch on this with #3) this so detestable Administration is fully embraced by a large portion of our citizens and most of the GOP. Like sadists, or imbeciles, or lunatics they chant ‘Lock her up’, fart ‘MAGA’ and make jokes about the kiddies in concentration camps.
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> That some Dopers are not as flabbergasted by all this as I am is unsettling. Do I see it more clearly as an ex-pat looking in, while Americans living in the midst have become inured, like the apocryphal frog in heating water?

Oh no, **septimus**. Many of us, and I’m guessing most Dopers (who are following the situation) are way past flabbergasted and well into appalled, disgusted, distressed, dismayed, despairing, and sick. And we feel helpless at this point in time.

Yes, there are still Dopers who minimize the disaster that is the t—p administration, but there are fewer than there were a couple of years ago. And sometimes I think some of those apologists post their defense of DJT just to wind up the rest of us and not because they really believe in/admire him. I think they enjoy derailing threads and leading outraged Dopers on a not-so-merry chase into the weeds. Better to channel Nancy Pelosi and NOT take the bait they so freely throw out. If no one ever engaged with one of the apologists, they would soon disappear from the t—p threads.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/74 "2019-06-27T02:54:07Z")

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And then there’s those who get paid for it.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/75 "2019-06-27T17:54:41Z")

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I’d say this is death by 1000 cuts, but the motherfucker just won’t bleed.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/76 "2019-06-28T14:56:44Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Some of the reports I’ve seen had some self-righteous people proclaiming that “some of those children were traveling with people who weren’t even their blood relatives! We’re saving them!”

I got into a Facebook argument with one of those last week, who claimed that 1/3 of the kids were “trafficked”. They couldn’t seem to grasp my argument that, even assuming for the sake of argument that this is true, \*that makes it even worse. \*The idiot seems to think the cure to abuse is _more abuse_.

How do you even begin to penetrate such a mind?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-outrages-come-thick-and-fast/836031/77 "2019-06-28T15:09:36Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> I got into a Facebook argument with one of those last week, who claimed that 1/3 of the kids were “trafficked”.

I wonder if he even knows what ‘trafficking’ is, or if he’s just repeating a scare word.

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