# The Trump Recession

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [February 20, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592 "2025-02-20T20:13:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/141 "2025-04-05T02:07:03Z")

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Nope. What would you expect from someone that has a main skill of bankrupting shit?

Meanwhile, over on Fox News:  
[![](https://alearningaday.blog/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/496cd082-d5f0-4a96-9e7c-dcda00711bec-13702-0000048fec84f82b_file.jpg?w=1024) ](https://alearningaday.blog/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/496cd082-d5f0-4a96-9e7c-dcda00711bec-13702-0000048fec84f82b_file.jpg?w=1024)

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**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/142 "2025-04-05T02:10:04Z")

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[![](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/7bdc10cb76a702e928a8259d7426f4109de996df/0_0_4879_3006/master/4879.jpg?width=980&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none) ](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/7bdc10cb76a702e928a8259d7426f4109de996df/0_0_4879_3006/master/4879.jpg?width=980&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none)

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/143 "2025-04-05T02:13:19Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> My question is, if Trump is ousted in 4 years by the Dems, will they honor this card.\

That card is a mock-up. Somehow I doubt if there will be an official immigration document with his picture on it. If I’m wrong, maybe we need to stock up on postage stamps before they all have his image.

> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> I don’t think I’d invest in this clown, plus who wants to come here now?

Some of the Saudis behind LIV golf might want to be dual-citizens. Just guessing.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/144 "2025-04-05T02:17:43Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Somehow I doubt if there will be an official immigration document with his picture on it. If I’m wrong, maybe we need to stock up on postage stamps before they all have his image.

Remember, this is the guy that insisted Covid stimulus funds be sent out in the mail as checks so that his name could be on them.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/145 "2025-04-05T02:18:29Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Somehow I doubt if there will be an official immigration document with his picture on it.

I do not have your faith.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/146 "2025-04-05T02:27:21Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Someone on Twitter opined that Trump has already likely destroyed more peacetime wealth via purposely bad decisions than anyone in history, and I’m having a bit of a problem refuting that. Any takers?

That’s sort of like calculating the top grossing movie of all time. Are we talking in 2025 bucks or time-of-issue bucks?

Hitler’s choices lead to the physical destruction of much of his country, the death and displacement of most of its greatest thinkers, lost a 3rd of the land to the Soviets, and caused the destruction of lots of other nations’ possessions and lives in trying to stop Germany.

I think that Hitler would have to be the clear winner, and I certainly hope that it stay that way.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/147 "2025-04-05T02:27:27Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Some of the Saudis behind LIV golf might want to be dual-citizens. Just guessing.

In my disgust at the notion the American citizenship was something you could buy, and thinking that was the grift here, it hadn’t occurred to me that this is an work around to evade the laws that forbid foreign nationals from making campaign contributions.

I expect the second ‘Gold Card’ to be bought by Russia (if corporations are people why not countries?) so we’ll never hear “Russia, Russia, Russia” again because Vlad is an American too!

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/148 "2025-04-05T02:50:05Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> > [@JohnT](#):
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> > Someone on Twitter opined that Trump has already likely destroyed more peacetime wealth via purposely bad decisions than anyone in history, and I’m having a bit of a problem refuting that. Any takers?
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> Hitler’s choices lead to the physical destruction of much of his country,

I first thought of Hitler too, but then I noticed the word “peacetime” in the question. So he’s right out. I would guess one of the contenders would be Chairman Mao with his Great Leap Forward. But it’s hard to put dollar (or even renminbi) numbers on that. It’s usually counted in number of deaths.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/149 "2025-04-05T02:52:39Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> but then I noticed the word “peacetime” in the question.

The decision was to end the peacetime.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/150 "2025-04-05T17:55:53Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> If I’m wrong, maybe we need to stock up on postage stamps before they all have his image.

Don’t forget that that’s how Hitler got rich: charging royalties for the use of his image on Germany’s stamps. Don’t give Trump any ideas!

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/151 "2025-04-07T16:30:32Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> Don’t forget that that’s how Hitler got rich: charging royalties for the use of his image on Germany’s stamps

That, and not paying taxes

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/152 "2025-04-07T16:34:29Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> Don’t forget that that’s how Hitler got rich: charging royalties for the use of his image on Germany’s stamps. Don’t give Trump any ideas!

Hitler made most of his money from sales of “Mein Kampf.” He had already gone from broke to well off before he became Fuhrer; it wasn’t much known at first but started selling like crazy as the economy went to hell. By war’s end he’d sold over ten million copies, many of them bought by the regime he was running.

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/153 "2025-04-07T19:03:18Z")

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> **[Trump Plans $92 Million Military Parade—Honoring Himself](https://newrepublic.com/post/193674/trump-military-parade-birthday)**
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> Donald Trump is pulling straight from the dictator’s playbook.

And yet we are spending money on a parade for this goon?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/154 "2025-04-07T19:21:16Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> By war’s end he’d sold over ten million copies, many of them bought by the regime he was running.

Every newly wedded German couple got a copy of _Mein Kampf_, as did every soldier fighting in the Wehrmacht, free to them and paid for by the German state. But hey, there was no cryptocurrency back then…

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/155 "2025-04-07T19:22:38Z")

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> [@Ellecram](#):
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> And yet we are spending money on a parade for this goon?

They’ve evicerated small agencies spending far less than that $92 M.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/156 "2025-04-07T20:13:10Z")

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Can’t someone float the idea that getting a lot of soldiers surrounding him might be a bad idea?

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/157 "2025-04-07T20:21:37Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Can’t someone float the idea that getting a lot of soldiers surrounding him might be a bad idea?

Great idea.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/158 "2025-04-07T21:17:07Z")

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This will be a good page to keep an eye on over the next year or two, the average percentage of tardy/non-paying debtors, by type of loan.

> **[FRB: Charge-Off and Delinquency Rates on Loans and Leases at Commercial Banks](https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/chargeoff/delallsa.htm)**
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> The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.

Unfortunately, we won’t get an update until mid-May.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/159 "2025-04-08T19:37:24Z")

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Dow only has to drop another 1,200 points to see us back to the level we saw over three years ago. 1,200 may sound like a lot but Trump has already wiped out over 7,000 points.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-recession/1014592/160 "2025-04-08T19:39:08Z")

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Tomorrow, as far as I know, is the day where we actually implement tariffs. The market is being held up by the hope that Trump calls the whole thing off, so if he goes through with this, it’s going to be a great depression level crash day.

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