# The TRUTH About BratMan007 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 10, 2000, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111 "2000-07-10T14:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Talkinsquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f6c823/32.png) [@Talkinsquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talkinsquirrel)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/61 "2000-07-11T02:58:18Z")
Its a big question of wheter or not Bratman wants to come back. In less than 2 days he has been accused of being a troll, creating a g/f, said to have psychological problems, and basically have the whole board turn on him. If that happened to me I dont know if I would come back. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/62 "2000-07-11T03:08:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Whoever did this to Bratman would need to have access to his computer While this is possible, it is not necessary - I read the board from at least three different computers at work, have posted from two, and one of these is a unix box where anyone in the office who accesses the internet from that box would have the same IP address (as I understand it). > [@](#): > > have some sort of reason to get him in trouble Perhaps this person? “Ervin, who isn’t all that bad, but he constantly looks over my shoulder to see what I’m doing on the computer.” I’ve run into many people in my professional life that resent when a person is “goofing off” in their eyes - even when the person has no authority. Just ask metroshane. > [@](#): > > have enough experience on this board to know that Bratman would get caught Not necessarily. It could have been enough for the person to screw with Brat. ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/63 "2000-07-11T03:11:00Z")
Here I’ve been mulling over this long presumption of innocence/let’s peck the one who bleeds response and it’s resolving itself in my absence (as if I mattered to the outcome anyway). Go, Brat, go! I _am_ glad for _all_ of us. ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/64 "2000-07-11T03:14:54Z")
Uh…, you might _still_ be interested in that Demerol vacation, Brat. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/65 "2000-07-11T04:15:58Z")
Man, I’m glad this seems to have resolved itself, more or less. I’m really glad Brat isn’t hurt and seems to be more or less vindicated of the charges. My gut instinct was that he didn’t do it, but I don’t really know him that well. I mean, how well do most of us know each other? People can be anyone they want on these boards. But the person he seemed to be was all right with me, as are the huge majority of you guys. As far as someone else posting from his machine at work, well, anyone who logged onto my PC could get in as me, because I’m set up for cookies and it stores my password, etc. But no one here cares. Thank goodness. ---
**Author:** ![Vestal\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5e9695/32.png) [@Vestal\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vestal_Blue)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/66 "2000-07-11T04:20:55Z")
Way t’go, Brat! Yay! Oh, by the way, Kelli, a bottle of Bacardi 151 would do nicely, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Vestal\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5e9695/32.png) [@Vestal\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vestal_Blue)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/67 "2000-07-11T04:24:21Z")
Oh, and DrainBead, while I appreciate your position, there is a place in this world for loyalty, even in Cyberspace. ---
**Author:** ![pLt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@pLt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pLt)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/68 "2000-07-11T04:30:26Z")
🙂 I think that says it all … ---
**Author:** ![purrplebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@purrplebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purrplebear)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/69 "2000-07-11T05:24:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Vestal Blue \* > \*\*Oh, and DrainBead, while I appreciate your position, there is a place in this world for loyalty, even in Cyberspace. \*\* **Amen** to that! Well put, VB. I have been reading this today off and on, as my ISP allowed \, and have wanted to jump in here. I’ve had trouble posting all day today, so my apologies for not posting to this much sooner. That said, I have sided on Ron’s side with Coldy, VB, Shayna, and others from the start. I said as much in an email to Ron. I agree with dpr and others, I’d much rather lead with my gut, and stand by a friend, than to have to apologize later. I hope he does come back. I for one, will really miss him. I won’t however miss his g/f, and that’s all I’ll say on that. I joined for some light fun. I’ve stayed for the awesome people, the sense of community and belonging. How sad it is that so many can turn so easily on one of their own. It saddens my already overburdened heart deeply. I hope the healing we all need can start soon. Here’s my contribution to that: {{{{{{GroupHugsto **ALL** dopers}}}}}} ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/70 "2000-07-11T07:38:12Z")
Nice one Tuba , looking forward to seeing Bratman posting soon. ---
**Author:** ![VaHermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ed655f/32.png) [@VaHermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VaHermit)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/71 "2000-07-11T09:29:08Z")
I still have one question. Maybe I’m overlooking something, But in the OP Brat said that between 7am and 6pm the firewall problem prevented anything from going out. So how come Odz was able to post a half dozen times from there? Sorry, not trying to stir the shit anymore, just wondering what I missed. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/72 "2000-07-11T09:29:27Z")
I missed most of the reparte on this subject, having left work this morning without a clue as to what was going on. I’m glad it’s ok. I, of course was going to insist that BratMan007 was innocent. He’s a baseball fan, and baseball fans are good people. Now if he was a football fan… Then I was going to suggest a ‘Dressed to Kill’ split personality girlfriend scenario to explain the events. (would have been more interesting, anyway) Anywho, I’m glad BratMan’s OK. But now I’m starting to eye my co-workers a little suspiciously. Could they be plotting something in the same vein? ---
**Author:** ![kellibelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@kellibelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellibelli)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/73 "2000-07-11T10:31:17Z")
Blue, I’ll send you the bacardi, when I get more proof than ‘it was done from his workplace and he says he didnt do it’. The whole thing still seems pretty fishy to me. I work in a HUGE building, everyone one a company server… so I guess if a troll pops up with the same isp address as me, I am totally in the clear. If I am wrong - sorry. But forgive me if I maintain my cloak of cynicsm…its good protection over here these days. ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/74 "2000-07-11T12:57:49Z")
…about the IP addresses. If BM is in a systems type location, they may have multiple PCs with similar IPs XXX.XXX.XXX.YYY where all the xs are the same, and the ys differ, or maybe a couple of subnets. BM may usually post from one or two, but someone else from a third. That would explain similar IPs. Heck, that person may post from his when he’s away from his desk. I wouldn’t put too much weight on dynamically allocated ones. Myself, I usually post from 1 of 3 at work, but they aren’t my ONLY access (home IP is dynamic). Still, it is up to the sysadmins. ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/75 "2000-07-11T13:00:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by VaHermit \* > \*\*I still have one question. > > Maybe I’m overlooking something, But in the OP Brat said that between 7am and 6pm the firewall problem prevented anything from going out. So how come Odz was able to post a half dozen times from there? > > Sorry, not trying to stir the shit anymore, just wondering what I missed. \*\* One possibility - in a corporate location, most access may be on a t-1, but some of the office PCs may have dialup modems as well. Sometimes people forget about the alternate access. ---
**Author:** ![lunapark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@lunapark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lunapark)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/76 "2000-07-11T13:01:07Z")
My apologies on calling you a he. For some reason i seem to assume all parties are male until proven otherwise. I should have figured it out though because Franny was a female character of J. D. Salinger whom i like very much. Soooo, I’m sorry. Kudos to Franny for spotting Randy Rochelle and Boo Boo as the same person. ---
**Author:** ![winky99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/71c47a/32.png) [@winky99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/winky99)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/77 "2000-07-11T13:25:49Z")
Welcome back Brat. I avoided posting to this thread until more facts came out. I didn’t see the need to get into a pissing match over opinions and guesses. I had faith that the Admins would clean this up and I am pleased that you were cleared. You are a welcomed and entertaining poster and I look forward to seeing your name out there again. Now, I think you were needed back at the female newbie check in. . . ---
**Author:** ![little\_bit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@little\_bit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/little_bit)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/78 "2000-07-11T13:58:03Z")
For those of you who answered my question about the IP address, thanks. I missed that. I would have replied sooner but got sucked into work. (They kinda expect you to do stuff if your being paid to be here. Go figure.) I’m glad this is all resolved to the Administrator’s satisfaction. I hope everyone can just forget these last few days & go on posting without holding grudges or holding back. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2000, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111/79 "2000-07-11T15:31:15Z")
I think we can put this behind us. I’m closing the topic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bratman007/25111.md?page=3)