# The truth about Bush and Blair!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 6, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443 "2003-03-06T06:29:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/21 "2003-03-06T15:26:29Z")

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Three posts in 9 minutes - and his first three at that - and he expects everyone to be piling in with their responses :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/22 "2003-03-06T15:35:28Z")

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> And of course a special thank you to Stoid for approving the use of homosexuality to insult people she doesn’t like. All that video accomplishes is to say, “Haw, haw, Bush and Blair are fags. See, they’re singing ‘Endless Love’ to each other.”

For Christ’s sake, **gobear** , that’s not it and you know it. The point is not to insult Bush and Blair by calling them fags, the point is to insult them by saying that _they are in bed with each other_.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/23 "2003-03-06T15:43:30Z")

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I was going to say “That Bush certainly seems to have a hard-on for Saddam,” but I guess I won’t.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/24 "2003-03-06T15:51:27Z")

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> For Christ’s sake, gobear, that’s not it and you know it. The point is not to insult Bush and Blair by calling them fags, the point is to insult them by saying that they are in bed with each other.

Maybe my sense of humor is impaired, but where you see a sophisticated political satire, I see gayness used for cheap laughs.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/25 "2003-03-06T15:51:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \*  
> \*\*I was going to say “That Bush certainly seems to have a hard-on for Saddam,” but I guess I won’t. \*\*

I don’t know about Bush having a hard-on for Saddam, but I know that Saddam has a hard-on for Satan.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/26 "2003-03-06T15:51:41Z")

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Tsk. All this talk of Bush … why is no one up in arms about the insult to _our_ Dear Leader? Huh?

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/27 "2003-03-06T16:16:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> Maybe my sense of humor is impaired, but where you see a sophisticated political satire, I see gayness used for cheap laughs.

No pun intended (er, yeah. I _expect_ you to believe that…;)), but I think I’m in between you and **matt**. I see where you’re coming from _and_ I see political satire. However, the gayness I see more as being used to poke fun at GWB’s stance on non-hetness. For what reason, I dunno. ::shrug::

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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/28 "2003-03-06T17:23:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*Maybe my sense of humor is impaired, but where you see a sophisticated political satire, I see gayness used for cheap laughs. \*\*

I don’t think anyone called it “sophisticated” but it ain’t “gayness used for cheap laughs” either. If it had been Ronald Reagan and Thatcher instead it would have been just as funny (if it didn’t seem too dated).

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/29 "2003-03-06T17:42:34Z")

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And Coldfire wonders why it’s in the Pit…

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**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/30 "2003-03-06T17:50:54Z")

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Thanks, \*\* Stoid\*\*, that was impressive and entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/31 "2003-03-06T18:06:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stoid \*  
> \*\*And Coldfire wonders why it’s in the Pit… \*\*

Yeah. Coldfire also wonders why this thread wasn’t placed in, say, MPSIMS, like the thread linked to by **beagledave**. It’s a humourous movie (although some seem to disagree about that, too), which -with the right accompanying OP- could be either seen as funny, or dismissed as harmless.

The way it is now, and in the forum it is now, it’ll only provoke the Bush camp to respond in anger, and it’ll only urge the anti-Bush camp to see it as more than it is: a joke.

The question then is, **Stoid** : why put it in the Pit? And why then only come back to post words to the effect of “I told you so”, when the inevitable reactions have already been posted?

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/32 "2003-03-06T18:21:56Z")

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Cuz it’s political.  
Cuz it’s making fun of the guy in the Oval Office.  
Cuz it’s me.

Mix it all together, and you have a Pit thread recipe. You’re a mod and you have to ask? (That, and I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever go to MPSIMS for anything anymore.)

Props to the pubbies and conservatives who see the giggle.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/33 "2003-03-06T18:30:38Z")

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Pubbie here! I giggled… 😉

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/34 "2003-03-06T18:33:59Z")

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Since I seem to be the only one here who sees more than just a giggle, the problem must be mine. I apologize and retract my comments.

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**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/35 "2003-03-06T18:34:14Z")

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God I hate the term “pubbie”.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/36 "2003-03-06T19:08:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sam Stone \*  
> \*\*And you all know that I am a big supporter of President Bush. But that doesn’t mean I’ve forgotten how to laugh. \*\*

Apparently HE has:

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> The residents of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue\_instructed the White House counsel’s office to threaten a satirist and order him to remove pictures of\_Mrs. Cheney\_- complete with red clown noses - from his Web site.

[http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article\_1889.shtml](http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1889.shtml)  
[http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/lynne.asp](http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/lynne.asp)

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-about-bush-and-blair/159443/37 "2003-03-06T19:13:28Z")

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Accepted!

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