# The Truth Fish Eating the Darwin Fish **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2001, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189 "2001-07-30T02:57:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2001, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/41 "2001-08-02T18:41:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Novus Opiate \* > **Who’s to say that Darwin didn’t nail the Big Guy’s Process down 100%?** How about Darwin himself? He, like most people in his culture, grew up believing the god of the Bible existed and was responsible for all living things, but, after sailing on the _Beagle_ and studying life, he changed his mind and eventually came to call himself [agnostic.](http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/library/cd_relig.htm) > [@](#): > > **Natural selection isn’t so disagreeable to a Christian perspective, is it?** There is no mention of divine miracles anywhere in the Theory of Evolution. That’s what many Christians find so disagreeable about ToE. The ones who are trying to reconcile Christianity with ToE are in denial, because saying God used evolution to get life where it is now violates Occam’s Razor, because this explanation assumes the existence of something (God) whose existence cannot be proven. ---
**Author:** ![Protesilaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Protesilaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Protesilaus)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2001, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/42 "2001-08-02T19:18:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Novus Opiate \* > \*\*Natural selection isn’t so disagreeable to a Christian perspective, is it? \*\* According to [this article at catholic.net](http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Issues/Pope-and-Evolution/pope-and-evolution.html), “the Church has no problem with evolution so long as divine causality is not excluded.” ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2001, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/43 "2001-08-02T20:10:24Z")
Just yesterday when leaving the movie theater my roommate and I saw a car that had the Darwin Fish sticker on one edge of the bumper, and the regular Christian Fish on the other edge. We were amused. For the sexual fish, check the following site: [http://www.evolvefish.com/](http://www.evolvefish.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/44 "2001-08-03T17:31:02Z")
Around here there’s a fellow with a big camaro-esque sportscar with a huge playboy logo in the back window, and a discreet Jesus fish off to one side. Frankly, I’m waiting for the Darwin fish being eaten by the Jesus fish being eaten by the Cthulhu fish. -Ben ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/45 "2001-08-03T18:10:21Z")
heh. Someone should tell those EvolveFish people that the “shark” car emblem is also, judging by how many I’ve seen at the law school, highly popular with lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/46 "2001-08-04T22:49:47Z")
I’m just glad that the evolutionists are beginning to admit that their belief-system is a religion, hence the fish. I agree that the Christian fish eating the Darwin fish is very immature. Perhaps if they could make a little Jesus fish that was enlightening the Darwin fish it would work, but that would be far too complicated to draw. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/47 "2001-08-04T23:18:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \* > \*\*I’m just glad that the evolutionists are beginning to admit that their belief-system is a religion, hence the fish. > \*\* This is one reason why I dislike the Darwin fish- I’ve met FC’s who see it as proof that “Darwinism” is a religion. Anyway, Mahaloth, evolution isn’t a religion; it’s science. If you want to claim otherwise, then I’d be interested in hearing your response to my FAQ: [http://psyche11.home.mindspring.com/molevol2.html](http://psyche11.home.mindspring.com/molevol2.html) -Ben ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/48 "2001-08-04T23:22:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \* > **I’m just glad that the evolutionists are beginning to admit that their belief-system is a religion, hence the fish.** No, it’s just a symbol that lets people know, at a glance, where I stand on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Ross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Ross](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ross)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/49 "2001-08-05T21:44:13Z")
I always saw the Darwin fish as a joke. I mean, it _is_ a joke, right? So is the new badge, no? ---
**Author:** ![Protesilaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Protesilaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Protesilaus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2001, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/50 "2001-08-05T22:21:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tygr \* > \*\*And [one for our pagan friends!](http://members.tripod.com/~shadowdrake2/) > > [sub]Yeah, I realize it’s only a virtual one, though.[/sub] \*\* To me, that fish seems just as bad as the Truth Fish Eating Darwin Fish emblems. > [@](#): > > However, the Pagan Fish is unique among all of the other Fishes. Not only has it developed legs to walk with, it’s increased intelligence has allowed it to overcome both the Jesus and the Darwin Fish. First, there’s the whole denying the obviousness of evolution angle (“overcoming the Darwin Fish”). Secondly, there’s the “my belief system can beat up your belief system/worldview” factor involved. The Pagan Fish Emblem would be better if it left out the other fishes, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Chronolicht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Chronolicht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronolicht)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-truth-fish-eating-the-darwin-fish/74189/51 "2001-08-06T07:52:44Z")
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