# The Tune Distorts the Lyrics **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 12, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209 "2018-09-12T05:05:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/1 "2018-09-12T05:05:31Z")
Sometimes, the integrity of a good tune turns out to be more important (to the songwriter, anyway) than hearing the words clearly. Examples: From 1961: Patsy Cline’s “I Fall to Pieces” sounds like “I Fall, Toopy Says”. I don’t know who Toopy is. 🙂 Moving to the 70s: ELO called their song “Strange Magic”, but the way the notes are accented turns it into a “Strange, Mad Jick” - again not sure what a Jick is. Got any more? And, optionally, do you agree with the songwriter that a particular mangled lyric was worth it in return for maintaining the tune? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/2 "2018-09-12T05:08:34Z")
Tori Amos. Just about everything she did up until about a decade and a half ago had at least some singing that was [del]unintelligible[/del] shall we say, artistic. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/3 "2018-09-12T05:13:26Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Tori Amos. Just about everything she did up until about a decade and a half ago had at least some singing that was [del]unintelligible[/del] shall we say, artistic. I don’t know her music well at all - but you’re saying it was the tune doing it, not just her mumbling or shrieking or whatever, right? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/4 "2018-09-12T05:28:35Z")
After I bought an unreliable leaky Commando, I fully appreciated AC/DC’s song about\* “Dirty Deeds Under Jeep”\* ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/5 "2018-09-12T05:45:49Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > After I bought an unreliable leaky Commando, I fully appreciated AC/DC’s song about\* “Dirty Deeds Under Jeep”\* Does their tune (i.e. their songwriting skill) distort the words? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/6 "2018-09-12T06:18:09Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > Moving to the 70s: ELO called their song “Strange Magic”, but the way the notes are accented turns it into a “Strange, Mad Jick” - again not sure what a Jick is. Stephen Malkmus could help you out with that. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/7 "2018-09-12T06:35:45Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > I don’t know her music well at all - but you’re saying it was the tune doing it, not just her mumbling or shrieking or whatever, right? It sounds to me as though the lyrics and the words are shaped into each other in many of her songs. [I I E E E](https://youtu.be/KXI-_An3yFM) [I Can’t See New York](https://youtu.be/Qm0ZHQ5dzPM) Granted, those are kind of extreme examples. Some of her material is more conventional. She is a musician first and often uses her voice like another instrument that pulls the words along with it. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/8 "2018-09-12T06:52:15Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It sounds to me as though the lyrics and the words are shaped into each other in many of her songs. > > [I I E E E](https://youtu.be/KXI-_An3yFM) > > [I Can’t See New York](https://youtu.be/Qm0ZHQ5dzPM) > > Granted, those are kind of extreme examples. Some of her material is more conventional. She is a musician first and often uses her voice like another instrument that pulls the words along with it. Then I get what you mean, and that’s exactly what I meant as well. Extreme examples? Why not? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/9 "2018-09-12T06:53:50Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Stephen Malkmus could help you out with that. Thank you, yes, it appears he would know a thing or two about Jicks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/10 "2018-09-12T07:49:57Z")
The poster child for the category is the US national anthem. THUBbombs bursting in air and so forth. The lyrics were superimposed on an old drinking song. They don’t fit it very well. Hoozebrawd stripes and bright stars. UVVVthuh brave. Yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/11 "2018-09-12T08:16:06Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > Got any more? And, optionally, do you agree with the songwriter that a particular mangled lyric was worth it in return for maintaining the tune? Exhibit A, America, Horse with No Name “_'Cause there ain’t no one for to give you no pain_” Rather than a mangled/garbled lyric forced to fit the metre they chose clearly spoken gibberish because it fitted the tune. I’ll pay it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/12 "2018-09-12T08:34:11Z")
Katy Perry, “Unconditionally” No native English speaker is normally going to pronounce that word “unCONdiTIONally” unless they’re deliberately trying to annoy the world. Well, me, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/13 "2018-09-12T08:56:52Z")
R.E.M.: The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonight. Official lyrics: call me when you try to wake her up heard lyrics : commie try to wake up ---
**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/14 "2018-09-12T09:08:58Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > From 1961: Patsy Cline’s “I Fall to Pieces” sounds like “I Fall, Toopy Says”. I don’t know who Toopy is. 🙂 Isn’t the way Patsy’s songs sound also partly influenced by her southern accent? ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/15 "2018-09-12T09:37:15Z")
Arlo Guthrie had fun with it in [The Motorcycle Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4OKPMm-vfc) I don’t want a pickle I just want to ride my motorsickle I don’t want a tickle I just want to ride my motorsickle I don’t want to die I just want to ride my motorcy . . . cle Compare Roaring Lion’s [Ugly Woman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZnNwZyaGf8) with Jimmy Soul’s [If You Wanna Be Happy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9ZZgDqzAg) ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/16 "2018-09-12T10:20:23Z")
“sheep” by Pink Floyd might be a suitable example for this. [At this point](https://youtu.be/3-oJt_5JvV4?t=101)the word “away” blends into a synth note (or whatever the hell it was those crazy kids were using). The same trick is repeated for the last word of each verse. Good song, nice touch, I approve. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/17 "2018-09-12T11:08:30Z")
Anything with lyrics by Bernie Taupin. And no, I’m not referring to Elton John’s deliberately mangled pronunciations. I’m referring to stuff like I sat on the roof and kicked off the moss, well, a few [beat] Of the verses, well, they’ve got me quite cross ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/18 "2018-09-12T11:48:17Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > The poster child for the category is the US national anthem. THUBbombs bursting in air and so forth. The lyrics were superimposed on an old drinking song. They don’t fit it very well. Hoozebrawd stripes and bright stars. UVVVthuh brave. Yeesh. It even starts out “Jose, can you see?” ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/19 "2018-09-12T11:57:00Z")
“When the rain washes you clean you’ll know” -Fleetwood Mac ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209/20 "2018-09-12T12:24:47Z")
I’ve always been amused by Bono telling us that _all he wants is [Yoo-hoo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoo-hoo)._ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tune-distorts-the-lyrics/821209.md?page=2)