# The Two Trick Pony And Marching Manchowder Society **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 19, 2002, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692 "2002-12-19T00:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2002, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/41 "2002-12-19T18:23:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Akatsukami \* > \*\*You realize, of course, that causing this is truly unforgivable šŸ˜› \*\* Eh. If you donā€™t eat yer manchowder, you canā€™t have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you donā€™t eat yer manchowder? ---
**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2002, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/42 "2002-12-19T18:26:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*It was said for effect within my OP, which was intended to feed into sterotypes of all kinds. > > If you were offended, I apologize. The personal slight was not intended. > \*\* Thanks. Very cool of you to apologize. Just thought you should know. šŸ™‚ Iā€™m not offended anymore. _smile_ ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/43 "2002-12-19T18:53:21Z")
Ah, that was it, **JeffB**. Thank you. And remember, kiddies - because I know my bossā€™ spouseā€™s name, thatā€™s ok, but if they were to know my _boyfriendā€™s_ name, well, thatā€™s flaunting it. Right? Just checking. I remember reading in ā€œThe Gay Guyā€™s Guide to Lifeā€ something along the lines of, ā€œComing out, for the time being, and whether we like it or not, is a political statement.ā€ I thought it rather wise. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/44 "2002-12-20T02:03:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*Ah, that was it, **JeffB**. Thank you. > > And remember, kiddies - because I know my bossā€™ spouseā€™s name, thatā€™s ok, but if they were to know my _boyfriendā€™s_ name, well, thatā€™s flaunting it. > > Right? > \*\* No, ewww! Youā€™re not supposed to know the name of your bossā€™s spouse _or_ boyfriend/girlfriend. That leads to you have nightmares about coming into work and them having sex on the copy machine while asking you to make coffee. No employee should be subjected to that shit. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/45 "2002-12-20T06:34:40Z")
But my bossā€™ husband is HOT! šŸ˜ƒ Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/46 "2002-12-20T21:25:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*Wellā€¦ the term flamboyant was used yesterday in this thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=151123](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=151123) > > While Garf explained his meaning, I thought about the word, the concept, and was irritated by a society that seems to see us living our lives honestly and openly as flaunting and being flamboyant. \*\* Ya know what? The world isnā€™t fair. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/47 "2002-12-20T21:41:53Z")
Perhaps, **Lizard** , you could explain what, exactly, is wrong with acknowledging unfairness and attempting to correct it. Would your attitude be so blase if _you_ were being casually discrim inated against? ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/48 "2002-12-20T21:55:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > My remarks to the schmuck like minty green not withstanding, I do not believe that all lawyers lose their souls and are soulless. I have met many fine lawyers who seemed to retain their souls and humanity. minty does not strike me as one of these beings. My apologies to your fine profession being besmirched by mintyā€™s existence. Psssst ā€¦ **Minty** ā€¦ I donā€™t think he likes you. Sua ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/49 "2002-12-20T22:20:29Z")
Jeez, and I thought he had a crush on me. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/50 "2002-12-20T22:24:08Z")
I saw that too and I thought, damn, what did **minty** ever do to him? Hey that reminds me, **minty** what happened to coming to the DFW Doper holiday party last weekend? Did you get tied up or did we drop the ball on sending you notices? We missed you there, your soulless inhuman presence would have been welcome.(someone else brought a cheesecake though ;)) Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/51 "2002-12-20T22:42:18Z")
Hastur and I have been at odds on issues he apparently takes personally a couple of times. In addition to the linked thread with the ā€œbreedersā€ controversy, ISTR making being a peripheral player in a long-ago Pit blowup to the effect that ā€œmagickā€ is bullshit. I think heā€™s still sore at Czarcasm for that one, so maybe I got on his shit list there too. Whatever the reason, I obviously rub him the wrong way. Iā€™m not losing any sleep over it, though. As for Festivus, I got stuck doing objections and responses to discovery requests most of Saturday and couldnā€™t drag my butt over to Ft. Worth by the time it was done. Iā€™d hoped to use it as an excuse to go visit the new museum too. ā˜¹ One of these days Iā€™ll make it again, I swear! ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/52 "2002-12-20T22:48:02Z")
Iā€™ll keep an eye out and drop you a note next time something is being planned more than about a week in advance(we do tend to do a fair bit of stuff at the last minute though. I can shoot you notices on those if I see them if youā€™d like). Sorry to hear you were tied up Saturday, the feats of strength were particularly impressive this year. We finally dragged ourselves out of there around 2 AM and that was only because we had exhausted the party game we played(we played every card in the box for that particular category). The Baboons have a really cool place and are excellent hosts. My wife has been itching to have people over again(mostly because she likes the excuse to shop for party games and cook far FAR too many desserts) so we may host sometime soon if we can find a suitably trivial excuse. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/53 "2002-12-20T23:13:28Z")
Sounds good. Iā€™m on Zyadaā€™s DFW mailing list, but if anything last-minute comes up, shoot me a message. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/54 "2002-12-20T23:21:46Z")
**Lizard:** _Ya know what? The world isnā€™t fair. Deal with it._ (quote saved and noted for use the next time **Lizard** ever complains about anythingā€¦what goes around comes around, keed.) ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/55 "2002-12-21T03:07:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lizard \* > \*\*Ya know what? The world isnā€™t fair. Deal with it. \*\* Ya know what? The status quo wonā€™t change with apathy. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/56 "2002-12-21T07:31:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*Ya know what? The status quo wonā€™t change with apathy. Deal with it. \*\* Well, since the ā€œproblem,ā€ ridiculous as it is, that started this thread is yours, how about _you_ deal with it? Or maybe your tender feelings just arenā€™t up for being called ā€œflamboyantā€? Forgive me if I donā€™t join the March On Washington over this one. Are you going to write letters to the editor until this ā€œinjusticeā€ is resolved? **Kimtsu** , by all means, be my guest. **grendel72** , this just in: being called ā€œflamboyantā€ does not equal ā€œdiscrimination,ā€ and freedom is a two-way street. People can talk about anything, contemptuously if they want to. Donā€™t like it? Well, thereā€™s always the REST of the world you could live in. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/57 "2002-12-21T07:56:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*Breeders actually **PAY** to watch _Queer as Folk_ on Showtime! \*\* Thatā€™s because we want to **do** Brian, that main guy. Luckily, itā€™s free-to-air in Australia. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/58 "2002-12-21T12:32:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lizard \* > \*\*Well, since the ā€œproblem,ā€ ridiculous as it is, that started this thread is yours, how about _you_ deal with it? Or maybe your tender feelings just arenā€™t up for being called ā€œflamboyantā€? Forgive me if I donā€™t join the March On Washington over this one. Are you going to write letters to the editor until this ā€œinjusticeā€ is resolved? > \*\* The problem is not ridiculous, nor is it just mine. I have to deal with it every day. So does every gay man, lesbian, and transgendered person. Saying anything about our lives publicly brings scorn more often than not, where if we were heterosexual it would be culturally acceptable. I do more than write letters to the editor. And an aspect of dealing with it is confronting the issues as they arise. Thank you for telling me what is and is not a problem and trying to make it look as if it was nothing. Without you Iā€™d have no idea to the validity of my perceptions. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/59 "2002-12-25T19:00:40Z")
The problem is that my office mate can chat on endlessly about her current boyfriend without anyone making an issue of it, but if I so much as mention my girlfriendā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692/60 "2002-12-26T06:14:28Z")
I used to have a cape. It wasnā€™t flannel. But it was black, with a red lining. (Worsted wool, lined with raw silk) So, was I . . . Flamboyant? Did that mean I was gay? Is the sumbitch who stole it gay? I hate him anyway. I really liked that cape. It went so well with my tux. (With the cane, hat and gloves, it was just . . . fine.) Am I endangering the fabric of our society? Or, rather was I, back before that . . . sumbitch stole it? And here I thought I was just nattily attired. Not that I wear a tux anymore either. ## Tris ā€œWrite a wise saying and your name will live forever.ā€ ~ Anonymous ~ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-two-trick-pony-and-marching-manchowder-society/143692.md?page=2)