# “The Tyranny of Morning People”

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tyranny-of-morning-people/992608>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 4, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tyranny-of-morning-people/992608 "2023-11-04T21:49:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tyranny-of-morning-people/992608/81 "2023-11-06T19:49:04Z")

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Yeah; that’d be easy. We live in a two bedroom apartment with the kitchen / living room in the middle. So nothing but a flimsy interior door and 20 feet of air separate sleeping her from the e.g. dishwasher. The other bedroom is mostly our office, so I could do admin crap or print out paperwork, but now that I’m retired it’s amazing how little of that actually needs doing.

During the times of year it’s warm enough at sunrise (i.e. over 80) I slip out the front door almost directly from bed and go to the beach for a few hours. Solves both our problems.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tyranny-of-morning-people/992608/82 "2023-11-06T19:54:07Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I’m utterly mystified. Being a “morning person” has exactly zero to do with how much sleep one needs.
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> One can be a “morning person” who sleeps 9 hours every day. Or 5. One can be a “night owl” who sleeps 5 hours every day. Or 9. They are completely orthogonal concepts.
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> So is the whining about short sleepers or about early risers?

I agree. I’ve known “morning people” who just seem to assume that everyone falls asleep at the same time they do. So when they nod off around ten and wake up at six, they got a full eight hours of sleep.

But when they see somebody else getting up at nine, they assume that person also fell asleep around ten the night before and slept for eleven hours. They can’t seem to see the possibility that the reason that person is waking up three hours later than them is because they went to sleep three hours later.

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