Pshaw. NO! Clearly, all of New York needs to be returned to the rightful owner: the country today known as the Koninkrijk der Nederlanden. The city can then be properly addressed as Nieuw Amsterdam again.
Yeesh, learn some history. 
Not to the Indians, but to Old Dirty Bastard.
Quiet, you. Or we’ll ship a Protestant King across the channel again. 
Yup, and while we’re at it, lets give The Netherlands back to Spain, and Spain back to the Romans. And I think Denmark would like to get Britain back please, if you don’t mind.
Spain? Romans?? The Batavians will gladly reclaim the Netherlands, thankyouverymuch.
Romans, me arse.
Aside from owning the damn things, that is.
The British claim pre-dates the Spanish claim and you surely must recognize that the argument ‘it’s near us’ is an extremely poor argument for sovereignity.
Also I think you have a few odd ideas about Britain’s role in South America, the only mainland colony there was British Guiana.
During the Napleonic wars Britian did launch an attempted invasion of Spainish territory in South America (including Buenos Aires), under the pretext that occupied Spain was offically an ally of Napelon, however these invasions failed (note that these invasions took place during 1806 and was not launched from the Falklands as Britain had been forced to leave the islands by this time). After the failed invasion Britian changed it’s tatics and supported South American revolutionaries instead.
Britian after this time no longer took an interest in direct imperial control over South America, but it did play a contiuned role in South American affairs particularly in Argentina where it owned commercial interests and it invested heavily in Argentina making it the most affluent and Europeanized country in South America. Argentina and Britian contiuned to enjoy close relations until about the mid-20th century.
Naw, we have 'nuff problems with folks wanting to break away from inside Spain as it is.
OTOH, as a gesture of goodwill, we’d be happy to nationalize RVN, Rafael van der Vaart and Jap Stam. Do that, and we promise to give our former colony credit after finally winning the WC.
As I mentioned before, it all depends on your source. Papal Bulls will tell you otherwise. Moreover, it is hard to dispute that it was under Spanish jurisdiction at the time of Argentine independence.
Having said that, I am also of the mind that the island natives should have the right of self-determination. That’s really all that should matter presently.
Pfff. After last night, you can have Van der Vaart. Good luck to Celta after Christmas, too.
Losing to ancient Belgians. Dammit.
At the risk of increasing your ire, Depor’s just hours away from putting PSV out of their misery too.
Never said it was our clubs that needed help. Although Celta’s much obliged to yesterday’s particular rendition of Milan.
::::flees in glee::::
Not so fast, junior: woohoo!
Although the fact that I’m cheering for PSV is telling in itself.
Of course, it’ll only land them an UEFA Cup spot. Oh well.
Not to break up the fun, but…
RedFury: I know this is hedging on IMHO territory, but how far do you think their self-determination should go? Do you reckon the natives would prefer the aegis of Argentina, their own independence or somewhere in between?
I’m a bit behind here (I’ve only just seen the thread) but there is a chapter about this episode in Michael Moore and Kathleen Glynn’s “Adventures in a TV Nation”. Apparently the town was Maerdy in Wales.
Multimap shows four different Maerdies in Wales, but the book doesn’t mention which one it was.
Why ask RedFury when the UN committee meeting you cited contains this?
everton: I’m not sure I’m following you. 
I had already obtained Mike Summers’ opinion, as it was written in the report.
I wanted RedFury’s opinion. Further, I like the way he writes – I think he might be able to redeem this thread with a little prose on the Malvinas. What’s it to you anyway?
Mr. B all the ‘natives’ are descendants of British settlers and are also UK citizens (though they don’t have the right to reside in the UK), if you want to find a place in the world were the Argentinians are most disliked, go to the Falkland Isles.
Granted.
Far be it from me to discourage RedFury from contributing to this thread; obviously he can say what he likes. But irrespective of his ability to entertain you with his prose there is no point in asking him (or anyone else) to speculate about what the Falkland Islanders might want when we already know perfectly well what they do want.
This thread doesn’t need to be “redeemed”. There’s nothing wrong with the thread with one notable exception.
If you wanted to correct a factual error in the OP you could have done that straight away instead of feeding us a lot of bullshit about “international impact” of nukes being “dismissed” and then rambling on about rumours, conspiracy theorists, “British activists” and the precise definition of a word you made up.
You evidently think you’re being very amusing here. Why don’t you find somewhere else to masturbate?
Steady now, Everton, stay civil or he might stop talking to you as well. I can tell you it’s absolutely gutting, when he does that.
Oh by the way, Mr B, any chance you could break your injured silence for a minute and quote those “anti-american insults”?
Right, so I’m not permitted to ask for RedFury’s opinion. Got it.
Please provide a cite showing a recent poll of the Falklands’ inhabitants. Barring that, how about “man on the street”-type interviews of the population? I’m only asking because you’ve said we know what they think. Please do not speak for me. I do not know what they think, that’s why I asked.
There was a serious problem in the OP. I attempted to fix a factual error and was met with resistance and ad hominem attacks.
See above. Also, I haven’t fabricated a single thing in this thread, with the exception of an inordinate amount of patience for personal attacks.
That’s a rotten accusation. You have proven your inability to invalidate any of my arguments, and now you’re becoming increasingly hostile.
Further, this is a public forum. I’ve paid my membership fee, just like you.
I have provided the following syntheses: [list=1][li]For more than 20 years, there has been widespread public knowledge that Britain deployed nuclear armaments in the Falklands War.[]Argentina’s President Nestor Kirchner has forced the British government to make the unprecedented admission that nuclear weapons were deployed during the Falklands War.[]President Kirchner has made a mockery of the British government’s foreign policy.[*]The “apology demand” has been spun by the British government in order to distract the British public. [/li]
Number Four is the most powerful of the bunch – perhaps the crux of the argument – because it’s made some people angry enough to display a total lack of objectivity on the subject.[/list=1]
In light of this, I think my earlier question bears repeating. So it comes to this: to whom is the greatest spin directed? The Argentines or the British? Is this really about a demand for an apology, or just a way to raise British hackles?