# The UK Prime Minister thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2017, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503 "2017-06-09T10:19:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/61 "2017-06-10T21:13:04Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> So why take on the stain of DUP partnership just before an election? Might as well yank the bandaid.

Because a new PM will need time to prepare a manifesto, time to build a team, and time to build a reputation.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/62 "2017-06-10T22:18:10Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Because a new PM will need time to prepare a manifesto, time to build a team, and time to build a reputation.

Right. And the DUP partnership will be part of their reputation.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/63 "2017-06-10T22:36:50Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Because the word that should be used is ‘ousting’.

Why?

See this definition from [The Cambridge English Dictionary](http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/ouster).

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/64 "2017-06-10T23:13:27Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Why?
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> See this definition from [The Cambridge English Dictionary](http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/ouster).

Fucking hell, we know what it means, it just breaks all the rules of the language (such as they are) in a particularly jarring way. It is something up with which I shall not put!

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/65 "2017-06-10T23:24:07Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Fucking hell, we know what it means, it just breaks all the rules of the language (such as they are) in a particularly jarring way. It is something up with which I shall not put!

Don’t get upset! He’s just giver you his thoughts on that particular phraser.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/66 "2017-06-10T23:32:38Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Don’t get upset! He’s just giver you his thoughts on that particular phraser.

:rolleyes: Whateving.

Edit: that doesn’t work at all as an amuser riposte does it?

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/67 "2017-06-11T04:42:27Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Fucking hell, we know what it means, it just breaks all the rules of the language (such as they are) in a particularly jarring way. It is something up with which I shall not put!

Oh, so you don’t say that two companies engage in a merger, you call it a merging? Or perhaps you say a praying at night, not a prayer? :dubious:

Need I find other examples? “-er” is not always indicative of “one who does the preceding verb action”. And not every gerund is formed by adding “-ing”.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/68 "2017-06-11T07:10:53Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> And not every gerund is formed by adding “-ing”.

I bet Theresa May wishes a government could be.

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**Author:** ![SeniorCitizen007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@SeniorCitizen007](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeniorCitizen007)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/69 "2017-06-11T13:06:18Z")

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Theresa May is cognitively impaired. I noticed this some time back … before I heard that she has type 1 diabetes.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/70 "2017-06-11T14:29:18Z")

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> [@SeniorCitizen007](#):
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> Theresa May is cognitively impaired.

Yay! Another medical diagnosis via the internet. :smack:

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**Author:** ![SeniorCitizen007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@SeniorCitizen007](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeniorCitizen007)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/71 "2017-06-12T10:54:13Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Yay! Another medical diagnosis via the internet. :smack:

Diabetes can affect the Amygdala and cause problems with attention and decision making. May hesitates in the middle of words as she momentarily loses the sense of her train of thought.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/72 "2017-06-12T11:51:23Z")

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State Opening of Parliament to be delayed from next Monday! I wonder why?

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**Author:** ![Dervorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dervorin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dervorin)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/73 "2017-06-12T12:13:18Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> State Opening of Parliament to be delayed from next Monday! I wonder why?

Have to thrash out the deal with the DUP and figure out which bits of the manifesto to “prune” (as David Davis put it), I would assume. I can only keep my fingers crossed that it’s even more dramatically delayed or even cancelled.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/74 "2017-06-12T12:16:13Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> State Opening of Parliament to be delayed from next Monday! I wonder why?

If it’s only delayed a couple of days then someone’s going to have to tell the Queen she’s going to miss a day at Royal Ascot.

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**Author:** ![marineris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@marineris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marineris)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/75 "2017-06-12T12:20:33Z")

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My guess is it’s been delayed to allow Rupert Murdoch a few extra days to finalise his cabinet.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/76 "2017-06-12T12:25:53Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> If it’s only delayed a couple of days then someone’s going to have to tell the Queen she’s going to miss a day at Royal Ascot.

In 2001 she just managed to do [both in one day](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1309412/The-Queen-wins-Ascot-handicap.html), and that was with all of the ceremonial stuff taking up time (this year she’s going to Westminster by car and wearing day clothes).

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**Author:** ![MarcusF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@MarcusF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarcusF)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/77 "2017-06-12T12:36:21Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> State Opening of Parliament to be delayed from next Monday! I wonder why?

Believe it or believe it not, it’s because the Queen’s Speech has to be written on goat’s skin parchment and it takes a week to produce :smack: They had a version done for a Conservative majority and a version for a Labour majority but - obviously - nothing for a Tory plus DUP one…

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/78 "2017-06-12T12:38:41Z")

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We could offer to lend her our goat…

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/79 "2017-06-12T12:58:56Z")

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> [@MarcusF](#):
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> Believe it or believe it not, it’s because the Queen’s Speech has to be written on goat’s skin parchment and it takes a week to produce :smack:

Wait, seriously? As a vegetarian I shouldn’t admit it, but that’s awesome.

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**Author:** ![jackstarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@jackstarr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackstarr)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-uk-prime-minister-thread/788503/80 "2017-06-12T13:05:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> We could offer to lend her our goat…

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> As a vegetarian I shouldn’t admit it, but that’s awesome.

Interestingly, the speech is now written on goatskin parchment paper rather than goatskin parchment; in other words, no goat required.

Goatskin parchment paper is described as ‘rag paper’, with a cotton content, on a number of merchant sites. I’m not sure of the rules relating to linking to stores, so I won’t do so… here’s a cite from the BBC’s political editor explaining the lack of goat:  
[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22449210](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22449210)

As a very high quality paper, lasting for up to 500 years, it does take several days for the ink to dry.

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