# The Ultimate Badass of All Media -- ROUND THREE

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 20, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446 "2009-10-20T04:26:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/21 "2009-10-21T14:38:56Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> In a twist ending, Conan gets up off the midden-heap where Samson left his apparently lifeless body and decapitates both of them.

> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> 😃 I’m counting this as a “pass”.

Your effete, over-civilized “voting” doesn’t impress a man who seized an empire through sheer brute force and cunning forged in the wilds of Cimmeria.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/22 "2009-10-21T15:01:49Z")

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After consulting Wikipedia for Motoko, Sephiroth and Brock, with whom I was previously unfamiliar, here are my votes (winner in bold):

**Batman**  
vs.  
Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell)

Batman is well-nigh unstoppable, and I don’t see a Japanese gynoid, however badass, as likely to take him down.

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)  
vs.  
**The Terminator**

So Sephiroth has an absurdly long sword. Big deal. The Terminator can ventilate him with a machine gun before he gets close enough.

**Gandalf the White**  
vs.  
James Bond

Gandalf the White is not to be trifled with. I don’t think Bond would take a white-haired, oddly-dressed old man seriously until too late. With his staff, the wizard could zap Bond before 007 knew what hit him.

**Brock Samson** (Venture Brothers)  
vs.  
Jason Bourne (The Bourne Identity)

Tough as Bourne is, Samson actually seems to be tougher (although I’ve never seen the cartoon).

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/23 "2009-10-21T16:30:00Z")

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> [@Donovan](#):
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> _We talking the pre- blown-up Brock or Brock’s newer, fatter incarnation? Eh, he can still survive being being shot and knocked out of a 10 story building. We’ll go with Brock._

Brock only went flabby for a little while he was recovering from open-heart surgery. A few months later when he stabs Hitler to death, he’s back in tip-top shape.

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**Author:** ![Parthol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@Parthol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Parthol)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/24 "2009-10-21T17:28:46Z")

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Winners in **bold purple.**  
**Batman**  
vs.  
Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell)

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)  
vs.  
**The Terminator**  
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Gandalf the White\*\*  
vs.  
James Bond

**Brock Samson (Venture Brothers)**  
vs.  
Jason Bourne (The Bourne Identity)  
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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/25 "2009-10-21T17:50:01Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> Brock only went flabby for a little while he was recovering from open-heart surgery. A few months later when he stabs Hitler to death, he’s back in tip-top shape.

It wasn’t open heart surgery. It was getting a talking robot head piece of shrapnel removed from his chest.

I think some people should remember that this is about being a badass, not who’d win in a fight. I think there’s a pretty big difference.

Pass

Terminator

Bond

Brock

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/26 "2009-10-21T18:28:51Z")

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Batman  
vs.  
**Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell)**

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)  
vs.  
**The Terminator**

**Gandalf the White**  
vs.  
James Bond

**Brock Samson (Venture Brothers)**  
vs.  
Jason Bourne (The Bourne Identity)

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/27 "2009-10-22T18:03:04Z")

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Batman  
vs.  
**Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell)**

I’ve been voting for Batman up to this point, but the Major is \*almost \*as prepared as the Bat, and she’s got a cybernetic body to boot. Advantage, Kusanagi.

**Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)**  
vs.  
The Terminator

As much as I hate to keep voting for that anime prettyboy, I don’t think Arnie has a chance.

**Gandalf the White**  
vs.  
James Bond

If Dirty Harry couldn’t beat Gandalf, then James Bond certainly can’t.

**Brock Samson (Venture Brothers)**  
vs.  
Jason Bourne (The Bourne Identity)

Brock is the perfect killing machine.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/28 "2009-10-22T18:34:42Z")

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**Batman**  
vs.  
Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell)

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)  
vs.  
**The Terminator**

**Gandalf the White**  
vs.  
James Bond

Brock Samson (Venture Brothers)  
vs.  
\*\*Jason Bourne \*\*(The Bourne Identity)

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/29 "2009-10-23T05:25:03Z")

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ROUND THREE IS OVER! The results have been tallied!

**Batman 12**  
vs.  
Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell) 8

The Major had a strong showing, but ultimately what probably did her in was lack of name recognition. Number one seed Batman continues to roll forward.

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) 8  
vs.  
\*\*The Terminator 12 \*\*

I’m sort of surprised by this one. I thought Sephiroth might go all the way. On the other hand, he’s a little too pretty to be the ultimate badass … .

**Gandalf the White 13**  
vs.  
James Bond 7

Bond shall not pass!

**Brock Samson (Venture Brothers) 16**  
vs.  
Jason Bourne (The Bourne Identity) 4

If only Bourne had a mullet … .

Thanks everyone for voting! Round four will begin in a few minutes.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-badass-of-all-media-round-three/514446/30 "2009-10-23T05:32:03Z")

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Round four is [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=537035).

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